Talk:Gannon Golden Knights football, 1949–1950

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A fact from Gannon Golden Knights football, 1949–1950 appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 May 2025 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Gannon University's original American football program lasted only two years due to fan "apathy", despite going undefeated and holding scoreless six of eight opponents in its first year?

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The result was: promoted by RoySmith talk 15:56, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that the Gannon Golden Knights football team was abolished due to fan "apathy" despite going undefeated and shutting out six of eight opponents in its first year?~~

Reviewed: Annel Silungwe

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 381 past nominations.

Cbl62 (talk) 13:54, 17 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Well then! New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Hook fact checks out and is in article. @Cbl62: There's a citation needed for other disbandings of programs toward the end. I also have a comment: the Lake Shore Visitor is a Catholic newspaper, not the main newspapers in Erie, which Newspapers.com does not have (they are in GenealogyBank). Almost there if we can get the citations in re: San Francisco and Loyola. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 18:41, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Sammie Brie: Thank you for the review. I added the missing citations. Cbl62 (talk) 21:07, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There we go. Sorry for missing your ping; check my name spelling next time. :) Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 01:33, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reopened per Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Queue 3 (14 April 00:00). SL93 (talk) 16:41, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Cbl62: Did you resolve the concerns listed on the DYK talk page, and is this ready for a re-review? Z1720 (talk) 13:26, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I offered up several alt hooks there and am ok with any of them. Cbl62 (talk) 13:32, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For context, the hook in question is: ... that the early Gannon Golden Knights American football program lasted only two years due to fan "apathy" despite going undefeated and holding scoreless six of eight opponents in its first year? However, now that I think about it, I think "early Gannon Golden Knights" sounds off since it might seem like it's talking about the early days of the program and not an entirely separate program that was discontinued and later revived. Maybe replace "early" with "original"? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:22, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok with me. Cbl62 (talk) 22:52, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALTa ... that Gannon University's original college football program lasted only two years due to fan "apathy" despite going undefeated and holding scoreless six of eight opponents in its first year?

ALTb ... that Gannon University's original American football program lasted only two years due to fan "apathy" despite going undefeated and holding scoreless six of eight opponents in its first year?

New review needed for the two new options. The old hooks are struck. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:08, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll give this a review. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:56, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Cbl62 and Narutolovehinata5: The article looks good and the hooks mostly are OK, but at "holding scoreless", it links to "shoutout", which only gives a link to Wikitionary: To speak when inappropriate, particularly in a school environment. I assume the link was supposed to be to "shutout"? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:01, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: It was. I've fixed the link. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:02, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In that case it should be good to go, though honestly, if the wording is "holding scoreless", I don't think a link is really necessary for the understanding, but it's fine either way. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:04, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It was a compromise: the original preferred wording was indeed "shutout", but concerns were raised about it being too technical of a term. The link is a compromise in allowing for a more broadly understandable wording for the hook while still linking to the preferred specialist term. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:11, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]