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Events - a typo

The sentence The deaths of 5.7 [30] to prehaps 7.0 million people should be The deaths of 5.7 [30] to perhaps 7.0 million people

Kazakh famine

You have forgotten to mention the Kazakh famine which killed ~1.5 million people in Kazakhstan.

Poor source for number of executions

In the second paragraph of the article the figure '799,455' is given for the number of executions. The source for this information is a Guardian article which in turn provides no source for this number. ArmaanSolkar (talk) 21:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

True, they should also add this one, the Presidential webiste of Russia admitting the number of victims: https://www.prlib.ru/en/history/1920103

This one is useful too, a declassified document about the number of executions: https://docs.historyrussia.org/ru/nodes/203005-chislo-osuzhdennyh-za-kontrrevolyutsionnye-i-drugie-osobo-opasnye-gosudarstvennye-prestupleniya-v-1921-1940-gg

Someone verified please add these so as to improve the quality of the article. Thanks beforehand. Mllhnkz (talk) 13:27, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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What I think should be changed:

Four more citations should be added to the figure of "799,455" executed between 1921-1953 under Stalin's regime.

Why it should be changed:

The only current citation is a mere The Guardian article written exclusively by a journalist that, in turn, provides no source for said number. There's currently no credibility for the figure, though there exist more sources online that actually back it up.

References supporting the possible change:

The Presidential website of Russia admitting the number of executions. ^[1]

A soviet declassified document which features those figures. ^[2]

A publication in the JSTOR journal by David Laibman citing historians Roger Keeran or Thomas Kenny stating those numbers. ^[3]

A publication in the De Gruyter journal by anthropologist Hans A. Baer citing historian Michael Parenti stating those figures. ^[4]

Mllhnkz (talk) 18:30, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done:. Added 3 of the 4 citations for the statement. The only reason I did not add all of them is to avoid an excessive amount of references. I decided to exclude the non-English source here, simply because this is the English Wikipedia, and the English language sources convey the exact same information (per WP:NONENGLISH). Also, another source had already been added to the statement after this request was made, though it wasn't one of the ones listed here.

Regardless, thank you for finding these citations.

P.S. Next time, put your edit request as a new topic on the talk page, instead of sticking it under an already existing topic. ApexParagon (talk) 22:10, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

[1] ttps://www.prlib.ru/en/history/1920103

[2] ttps://docs.historyrussia.org/ru/nodes/203005-chislo-osuzhdennyh-za-kontrrevolyutsionnye-i-drugie-osobo-opasnye-gosudarstvennye-prestupleniya-v-1921-1940-gg

[3] ttps://www.jstor.org/stable/40404277

[4] ttps://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9781785336966-005/pdf?licenseType=restricted&srsltid=AfmBOoriHye3wBchXz6LjRA_kIvSLZcEJ4PKW2gQHZEkOPmGRF6h_Fae

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