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RM, Democratic Labour Party (Australia, 1980) → Democratic Labour Party (Australia), Not moved, 10 March 2024, discussion
RM, Democratic Labour Party (Australia, 1980) → Democratic Labour Party (Australia, 1978–present), Moved, 1 April 2024, discussion

This article is written in Australian English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, realise, program, labour (but Labor Party)) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

Requested move 10 March 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus that the spelling difference of Labor vs. Labour would not be sufficiently distinct to justify the use of WP:SMALLDETAILS, and thus that the proposed title would be incomplete disambiguation. (closed by non-admin page mover) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 18:38, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Democratic Labour Party (Australia, 1980) → Democratic Labour Party (Australia) – I had the current page name as the suggestion when the split discussion opened like 9 months ago - but @ITBF brought this up, I think it'd be fine and easier if we reverted to the new party name (note that the original DLP never spelt it "Labour") without the year Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk) 23:54, 10 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 02:18, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Comment leaning~~ opposed: That seems like WP:INCOMPLETEDAB relative to Democratic Labor Party (historical). Is the spelling difference actually meaningful? Would people know there was a spelling difference? Apparently both of them used the spelling 'Labor' until 2013. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 02:00, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strike-through to switch to simple "opposed" above after seeing further comments. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:56, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I think the spelling difference Labor vs Labour is sufficient disambiguation in this particular instance, and it makes the disambiguator less awkward so that's a win. If we were going to argue about spellings, then arguably the name Democratic Labor Party (historical) would be a more ambiguous case anyway, given that there are several other "historical" parties listed as Democratic Labour Party. Overall this seems all OK to me though. — Amakuru (talk) 11:59, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Australian politics and alian Wikipedians' notice board have been notified of this discussion. – robertsky (talk) 02:18, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Trivial spelling differences are not sufficient disambiguation. Democratic Labour Party (Australia) should redirect to the disambiguation page Democratic Labour Party. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 03:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Agree with Pppery, that there would not be sufficient disambiguation because of an extra u. TarnishedPath^talk 11:13, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 1 April 2024

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The result of the move request was: moved. The consensus was to move to the second option! (non-admin closure) Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:15, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Democratic Labour Party (Australia, 1980) → Democratic Labour Party (Australia, 1978–present) – or Democratic Labour Party (Australia, founded 1978). According to the article, the party was founded in 1978, not 1980. The party has continued to exist up to the present time, which may be better described by "1978–present" rather than just 1978 alone. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:58, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, think title is getting way too long there but would support Democratic Labour Party (Australia, 1978) Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk) 12:21, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Democratic Labour Party (Australia, 1978). We usually just use the year of foundation as a disambiguator for ongoing organisations. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:00, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No objection to that. My primary question was whether to use 1978 or 1980. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:54, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Noli contendere This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:25, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as with both Totallynotarandomalt69 and Necrothesp I would support Democratic Labour Party (Australia, 1978) but either of the suggestions in the proposal I don't. TarnishedPath^talk 11:25, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Is the WA party actually a copycat?

From the WAEC Online Disclosure Dashboard, the WA party had two donors: Hugh Dolan for $54,650 and the Frank McManus Foundation for $10,001.

The Frank McManus Foundation appears to be strongly tied to the DLP. And a Hugh Dolan has run as a candidate for the Victorian branch. The disavowal of the WA branch also seems to be fairly recent:

I could understand them being embarassed at the new name the WA branch used, but they don't seem unrelated. James (talk) 09:07, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]