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What's with the weird page moves

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My watchlist this morning is full of what looks like this page getting moved back and forth between alternate titles. What's going on? Simonm223 (talk) 12:51, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See the “Name” thread above. Kierzek (talk) 14:28, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Looks like I missed a tempest in a teapot. Glad cooler heads prevailed. Simonm223 (talk) 14:32, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2025

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Its now known fact its not conspiracy, cia documents released ages ago, and argentinian documents prove that he fled to argentina and harbour two children there. The russian remains with the bullet in the head are apparently female remains not hitlers 92.18.52.19 (talk) 12:59, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Somajyoti 15:49, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All debunked fringe, except for possibly the skull, which doesn’t prove anything. See this article for WP:RS cited text and Death of Adolf Hitler article. Kierzek (talk) 00:24, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Milei's declassified files

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Should there be a sentence or two about Milei declassifying new files regarding this matter? CerealContainer (talk) 02:04, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, first because Hitler died in Berlin and secondly, nothing has been released yet that may be relevant to a fringe theory. Kierzek (talk) 02:10, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not disputing that he died in Berlin. I'm just saying that Milei's act of declassifying the files should be part of the article. To give a comparison, I want a reference to it similar to how Trump declassifying the JFK files is mentioned in the JFK assassination article. CerealContainer (talk) 00:31, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Material cited to primary sources

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I've just removed a large amount of material cited almost entirely to primary sources - declassified US CIA and FBI files. This obviously violates WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. The material appears to have been added by UpdateNerd. UpdateNerd, it is long past time you to stop your disruptive editing of this article which has included giving credence to WP:FRINGE claims that Hitler survived. I would suggest that you move on, and will seek a topic ban if you do not. Nick-D (talk) 10:28, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Even the alleged photo, hmm? I understand that the content could be refined and contextualized, but one issue is that the different reports are themselves complex & yet to be discussed in full by bubblegum pop historians—but are of definite significance to the subject. UpdateNerd (talk) 11:44, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree UpdateNerd has been around long enough (and been reverted enough) to know better. He seems obsessed with the subject of Hitler's death and fringe theories in relation to same for this article and others, including: Death of Adolf Hitler, The Death of Adolf Hitler (debunked Soviet propaganda book), Alleged doubles of Adolf Hitler, and several others. Kierzek (talk) 17:18, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly no, I did not zee this coming. UpdateNerd (talk) 22:41, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
UpdateNerd has re-added a range of material cited largely to primary sources (the same CIA and FBI files). I've removed this, and will progress a topic ban over coming days given the comment above suggests that this is a deliberate attempt to post WP:OR to the article. Nick-D (talk) 10:57, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Again, not opposing trimming of the material. The extended form, which I'm largely responsible for & won't attempt to reinstate, was getting long but clarified confusion (e.g. Citroën shared to CIA twice). Primary sources should support secondary ones when clarification is needed; not OR. Also noting a least a shorter overview including photo (similar to my attempted compromise edit) has persisted for years. But to be clear, walking away given the second removal, though I disagree. UpdateNerd (talk) 11:51, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]