Talk:Ben Roberts-Smith/GA1

GA review

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Nominator: TarnishedPath (talk · contribs) 11:26, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: GMH Melbourne (talk · contribs) 07:38, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I will review this article. I have started with a spot check below and aim to complete the review over the next couple of days. GMH Melbourne (talk) 07:38, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Spot check

I reviewed 20 sources and there were no major issues re verifiability or copyright. I will be checking direct quotes and potentially contentious material more closely later in the review. GMH Melbourne (talk) 07:38, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

@GMH Melbourne thankyou in advance for your time undertaking this review. I recently put the article through peer review, so hopefully any issues are reduced. If you do find anything which is not supported by a source, it is probably likely because of me moving sources around and re-organising things and it shouldn't take too much effort to rectify with sources already in the article. TarnishedPath^talk 08:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Criteria

No issues with the reference list. Earwig's Copyvio Detector reports high levels of similarity to sources. This is mainly due to quotations, job titles, and organisation names. There are a few instances of what could be seen as close paraphrasing, but I would say this definitely falls under WP:LIMITED. The article is stable. The article is well illustrated with four images, all being PD, and having suitable captions. The three images in the Military career and decorations section do not have WP:ALTs. GMH Melbourne (talk) 10:22, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

 Done added alts to the three images. TarnishedPath^talk 10:49, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Looking at the references in a bit more detail: FN 39 is missing details about website/publisher and author. FN 47 the publisher is styled weirdly with caps lock, inconsistent with other instances in the ref list. FN 99 is an AV source; there isn't a timestamp or URL to the documentary, and FN98 verifies the material. I would say it is best to remove it (happy to hear your thoughts if you disagree). FN 83 appears to be incorrectly placed and an identical reference to FN81. A number of sources are of court documents, which is fine as long as they aren't being used to support assertions of a BLP (WP:BLPPRIMARY), I have checked and they all seem fine except for FN 57 which can probably be fixed by being moved to the end of the paragraph. GMH Melbourne (talk) 12:30, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

@GMH Melbourne  Done TarnishedPath^talk 04:09, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

The See Also section is incorrectly capitalised. There are a few paragraphs (particularly in the Defamation suit section) that are single-sentence paragraphs, which is not ideal as per MOS:PARA and WP:PROSELINE. I feel the Military career and Decorations section is too short, there is only half a paragraph dedicated to how Roberts-Smith received a Victoria Cross, which is a pretty big deal (and the same with his Medal for Gallantry). There are a few articles listed at Victoria Cross for Australia#Recipients which could give you an idea on how to expand the section, also this source seems to go into a bit of detail of how these honours were earned. GMH Melbourne (talk) 13:26, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

@GMH Melbourne, I've undertaken a bit of reorganisation to the defamation suit section. I'll look at the Military career and Decorations section section later on tonight. In the meantime if you have a chance to at what I've done, please let me know if you suggest any further work. TarnishedPath^talk 23:29, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Prose review

Preliminary look

• Typo with quote: If you’re going to make accusations, cunt, you’d better... the source says: If you’re going to make accusations, cunt, you better...

 Done TarnishedPath^talk 10:42, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• Seems to be a typo at Governor-General of Australia, Quentin Bryce, <rat a ceremony

 DoneTarnishedPath^talk 10:42, 21 April 2025 (UTC)