Talk:Arrow-class oil tanker

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Arrow-class oil tanker Japan Arrow in 1929

... that during World War II, the name of an Arrow-class oil tanker, SS Japan Arrow, was changed by the American government to, "avoid any unfortunate association of ideas"?

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"In February 1942, after Pearl Harbor, Japan Arrow was renamed American Arrow, to avoid any unfortunate association of ideas." https://www.aukevisser.nl/mobil/id636.htm
"..as Japan Arrow (later renamed American Arrow).." https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/nhhc/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/c/chotauk.html

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Created by PhoenixCaelestis (talk) and GGOTCC (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

PhoenixCaelestis • Talk • Contributions 11:39, 17 March 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - This article leans very heavily on assorted articles from "Auke Visser's MOBIL Tankers & Tugs Site"
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - Nearest two citations are several sentences away, and neither seem to contain this quote. Also, the quote itself isn't in the article, though a close paraphrase is.
Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Overall a well-done article, and the hook citation issue can presumably be fixed quickly, but I am seriously concerned about whether "Auke Visser's MOBIL Tankers & Tugs Site" is an WP:RS. A self-published source like would be acceptable if they were a subject matter expert, but I can't find any evidence of that. Rusalkii (talk) 00:47, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Rusalkii: Japan Arrow has an entry in the Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships [[1]] that states that it was renamed in February 1942, however it does not specify the reason. Due to the time period and the events, I do not think it is a stretch to say it was due to the fact that America was now at war with Japan. I'd be willing to rephrase the hook to remove the quote. Perhaps as, "that to avoid association with the enemy during World War II, the name of the Arrow-class oil tanker, SS Japan Arrow, was changed by the American government?" Just a thought for a possible reword. Thanks for taking the time to examine the DYK nomination! PhoenixCaelestis • Talk • Contributions 19:42, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@PhoenixCaelestis: The issue isn't with just the hook, it's how heavily the article in general relies on this source. Rusalkii (talk) 21:33, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]