Talk:American–Algerian War (1785–1795)

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I believe Tripolitania and Tunisia were in there

Discussion with a block evading sock. M.Bitton (talk) 17:07, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

@M.Bitton the source say that american were at war with all of Barbara states and Barbara pirates Fullofdino (talk) 10:25, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is based on what's published in reliable sources and not on what we believe. The infobox is meant to summarize what's in the article's body. M.Bitton (talk) 10:39, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@M.Bitton so what I have to do is that I have to write Tripoli and Tunisia involvement in the article so I can add it to the info box? Fullofdino (talk) 10:41, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have to provide the sources that say that they were involved in this war. Please note that I have deleted one of your comments that had nothing but my username (I assume this was done by mistake). M.Bitton (talk) 10:43, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@M.Bitton oh I mean source says that united state was at war with the Barbary states. in the Maghreb so Tripoli Tunisia and Algiers not Morocco becuase both were allies. and that comment was becuase I thought its how to mention people sorry mister bitton Fullofdino (talk) 10:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@M.Bitton so can I add them ? Fullofdino (talk) 11:18, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing to add as the source that you provided doesn't support what you're suggesting. The regencies were asking tributary money separately and not as a coalition. They in turn were paid as such (they weren't allies since those that got paid couldn't care less if the others did). Please familiarize with how Wikipedia works (I will leave some helpful links on your talk page). M.Bitton (talk) 11:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Revert

@Kolno care to explain what was that about ? How about discuss your objections in the talk page first ? Nourerrahmane (talk) 19:06, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, for starters, unsourced content is not allowed. If you believe the article is unfinished, move it to draft space. Second of all, I reverted your edit with an explanation, which is clearly stated in the edit summary. Kolno (talk) 19:09, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve edited a number of articles without moving them to the draft space and, for notice, I’m a subject expert who had promoted few articles related to the regency of Algiers to GA status, so I’m well aware that unsourced content is not allowed. Wait till I finish this and then write down your objections. Next time you revert my work I’ll taking this to ANI. Nourerrahmane (talk) 19:17, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your academic background is not relevant to the discussion. Follow the guidelines and make sure any new content is properly sourced before adding it. Unfinished work should be drafted or deleted. Kolno (talk) 19:22, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Scope creep @M.Bitton @Skitash Sorry to bother you with this, but this user has been abusively reverting added content and thus deliberately hampering the development of this article while not even being a major contributor. Can you please look into this ? Thanks. Nourerrahmane (talk) 20:31, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is a misrepresentation. I reverted unsourced content with an explanation. Instead of discussing it on the talk page first, the user re-reverted and only then opened a discussion. Since no consensus had been reached, I reverted it again. Kolno (talk) 20:46, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Nourerrahmane: I know that what you added is easily attributable to RS, but given the objection and to avoid being reverted, just make sure you add the sources at the same time as the content. M.Bitton (talk) 21:01, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. New content will be sourced in each new edit. Thanks Nourerrahmane (talk) 21:06, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Morning @Nourerrahmane: I'm away for the day but I'll take a look when I'm back. scope_creep^Talk 08:10, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I took a look. I've left a message with Kolno. I know him. He is a solid editor, content creator but I think he is probably a bit confused over the unsourced content you added, from his edit summary and messages. I don't think he took on the fact that you've just written two huge and complex GA quality history articles and know how to source a reference. Hope that helps. scope_creep^Talk 08:52, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks scope creep, I do respect solid editors and I will add sourced content in each edit to avoid confusion. Thanks. Nourerrahmane (talk) 08:55, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The editor must have certain amount of freedom of how they construct the article. Some put content in and then reference it later, others put in a whole block of references on and then build the content around it, so many ways to do it. so you shouldn't be limited in how you work if the final result is a well sourced and written article. scope_creep^Talk 09:06, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]