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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... Bbb23 I suggest that Silent ink should move the page back to draft and get an experienced editor to check it before publishing it. --TSventon (talk) 14:44, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TSventonYeah a lady lecturing in colleges in the 10th century is worth mentioning. And since she is lost in history she deserves an article...Could you do the checking? Silent ink (talk) 16:04, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Women scholars in the medieval Islamic world were rare but highly influential. If she lectured at a scholarly institution, that makes her one of the few recorded female lecturers of the time. Also many medieval male scholars with fewer contributions have Wikipedia pages. There are also pages for Fatima al-Fihri, Zaynab bint al-Kamal, and Nana Asma'u, who were similar in scholarly contributions. Wikipedia has a known issue with underrepresentation of women.So I think we need this articleSilent ink (talk) 16:12, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also I have moved it back to my drafts space and will work on the G7 by which it was declined. Silent ink (talk) 16:48, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Silent ink: sorry, I don't want to advise you on exactly when the article is ready for publication. Did you see my message here? Articles in mainspace need to be notable, which is different from a subject that you or I think is important. It usually means (for people) they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject, do you think that the current references show that? You have four references, each about a paragraph, but 2, 3 and 4 are actually almost identical (link for 4 at https://archive.org/details/usool-al-hadeeth-the-methodology-of-hadith-evaluation/page/n155/mode/2up?q=haanee). How do you know that the websites are reliable?
On G7, reference 1 quotes sources Francis Robinsonand Ira M. Lapidus, eds, The Cambridge Illustrated History of the Islamic World (Cambridge: Cambridge Univ. Press, 1999), 190. T.J. Winter,The Cambridge Companion to Classical Islamic Theology(Cambridge: Cambridge Univ. Press, 2008), 103-104. which I believe is an assertion of coverage of any kind in at least one independent reliable source per Wikipedia:Common claims of significance or importance so I believe CSD A7 does not apply. TSventon (talk) 17:11, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]