Draft talk:Nikol Algerdos Kovalchuk

Notability of subject

This is a discussion with the author, who has declared their conflict of interest, from [my Talk page], which I have posted below for transparency:

Hello

I believe this draft meets WP:ANYBIO criterion #3, which states that a person is presumed notable if *"the person has received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject."*

To support this:

I have removed unreliable or non-substantial sources.
I have added several new, reliable secondary sources, including:
- Mountain Life Media
- Vogue Hong Kong
- Men Today Russia

These provide significant and independent coverage of Nikol Kovalchuk’s mountaineering achievements and public presence.

Additionally, I revised the tone and formatting to align with Wikipedia’s neutral point of view and biographical style guidelines. The list of achievements now follows a similar tone and structure to that used in Kristin Harila's article.

I also published a COI Disclosure on my Talk page.

Please let me know if further improvements are needed. I welcome any input to help bring this draft up to mainspace standards. Lauravictoriaj (talk) 08:59, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the ping.

Firstly, I would encourage you to create a user page as it will make communicating much more efficient.

Thank you for the information, and COI declaration.

Could you please provide WP:THREE? Cabrils (talk) 03:33, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Nikol got coverage in the following mountaineering and lifestyle magazines :

She's got published this week in Harper’s Bazaar Greece and in Marie Claire Russia.

She's just back from climbing Kanchenjunga - completing successfully the 14x8000m summits.

A feat that only a handful of women have accomplished.

I believe she's quite exceptional.

Thank you Lauravictoriaj (talk) 14:13, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Lauravictoriaj, thanks for the ping.

Firstly, I would encourage you to create a User Page as it will make communicating much more efficient.

Thank you for that information. Your edits are a big improvement on the draft.

Thank you for your conflict of interest declaration. You would be aware that given the conflict, the draft needs to clearly meet the relevant requirements for a page on Wikipedia, including notability. There is no doubt Kovalchuk is an accomplished mountaineer, however I still have concerns about her notability. I agree that some of the sources are reliable and contribute towards establishing notability. However, many sources are blogs or private websites. I'm not seeing any substantial articles in notable mountaineering publications like the American Alpine Journal or other publications in this list.

From what I can see, Kovalchuk has climbed as part of paid expeditions on established routes.

As such, I am not yet comfortable with accepting the draft into main space.

I also note your own somewhat chequered history of editing on Wikipedia (as visible on your Talk page).

Having said all that, I do think there is potential for a page for Kovalchuk, but we need to see better, reliable sources to establish her notability, as well as confirmation of each of her assents. Cabrils (talk) 00:49, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good morning,

Latest articles to date about her accomplishement in climbing the 14 eight thousanders :

- Khabarhub

- E News Polar

- Nepal Press

All confirmations of assents can be checked here and the newest ones will be shared once ready.

Thank you Lauravictoriaj (talk) 10:15, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Lauravictoriaj,

Apologies for such a belated reply.

Thank you for that information.

I have read each link you provided. The last 3 sources you sent are composed of almost identical content which leads me to conclude they are simply the result of a standard press release. At this stage I still don't feel the draft meets notability (in circumstances where you have a declared COI).

The confirmation of accents I referred to was not a request for you to provide me with the certificates: I was seeking verifiable confirmation in published, reliable sources.

Again, while what Kolvachuk has and is achieving is remarkable, none of her accents seem to be new routes, or as a lead climber, rather than as a paying client on a paid expedition ie not completed in a style considered notable in the mountaineering (or wider) community.

Again, I'm sorry to deliver disappointing news, but that is my position at this time. I do encourage you to persevere though, and there may be more RSs out there, or in time. And other reviewers may see it differently than me.

I have copied this thread over to the draft's Talk page for transparency.

All the best. Cabrils (talk) 07:23, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]