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Does the alleged cost of seat in a private spaceflight merit inclusion in the astronaut's article?

There is a content dispute at Talk:Shubhanshu Shukla#Seat about whether or not the alleged cost of a seat in Axiom Mission 4 merit inclusion in the astronaut's article, considering that no other article on an astronaut (including past occupants of private spaceflights) appear to have any mention of the cost of seat/mission in their respective articles. Members of this WikiProject are welcome to voice their opinions at the relevant disputed section. Thank you! —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 18:44, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

• Moved the comments from here to Talk:Shubhanshu Shukla#Comments from WT:SPF, because it is difficult to keep track of, and the dispute has expanded to whether or not there is a consensus. —CX Zoom[he/him] ^{(let's talk • {C•X})} 00:30, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

SpaceNews purge

SpaceNews has changed its services to enterprise only and purged all of its articles from Internet Archives due to being bought by PE. Unfortunately a vast majority of our articles rely on SpaceNews and web archive links that are now dead. What is the solution here? Sevgonlernassau (talk) 22:33, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

Good practice would be to leave the existing citations and add {{Better source needed}} (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 10:09, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Deep Impact (spacecraft)

Deep Impact (spacecraft) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 15:57, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

Edit war at Shubhanshu Shukla

The page of Indian astronaut Shubhanshu Shukla, who's currently on the Axiom-4 mission, has been the subject of a persistent and somewhat bizarre edit war over whether the cost of his seat should be mentioned in the lead of the article. Sadly if inevitably, there are pro/anti-Indian nationalist sentiments at play here on both sides. If you have opinions or would just like help to keep the peace, please consider adding this to your watchlists and chip in on the Talk page. Asamboi (talk) 02:14, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello @Asamboi. from your name it seems you are from the Indian state of Assam. I am from India too. I can understand your frustration about this topic. However, I strongly believe that the whole purpose of adding any information to a Wikipedia page (such as "cost of seat" in this case) is to just make that information available to people interested in that topic. If the said price is added to Subhanshu Shukla's page, it really doesn't matter because the relevance of such things depends on the reader of the article, maybe one reads the article today and this information may seem irrelevant but even after 1 more mission (say Axiom-5), people might come back to see the cost of spaceflight now v/s then (at Shukla's time) just by visiting his page. Or someone might just build a page on "Cost per seat of an Axiom Mission" in the future and then we can argue on just adding a footnote on his page. Anyway, I believe this community has a lot more things to do than to discuss such fruitless matters. Thank you for brining in this problem to light.

P.S. This reply is not meant to raise finger on someone. Specially not @Asamboi. I just mean to say that we can all focus on other things than waging such "edit wars" within the community. Manav2311 (talk) 14:34, 25 July 2025 (UTC)

As a quick glance at User:Asamboi will demonstrate, your assumption about my ethnicity is incorrect.

The reason I'm posting here is because the page has unfortunately gotten sucked into the eternal India vs Pakistan dispute and it would be great to get some neutral/space enthusiast views to establish a clear consensus. Asamboi (talk) 20:57, 25 July 2025 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Rocket Lab Neutron § Requested move 15 July 2025

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Rocket Lab Neutron § Requested move 15 July 2025, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. How should pages for multiple vehicles and related hardware with ambiguous names be titled? DMacks (talk) 00:56, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

MicroCarb Page Does Not Exist. Need someone to create an article.

Hello all. I am new to editing on Wikipedia. I joined just recently and that too just to see whether Wikipedia had a page on MicroCarb which is due to launch on 26 July 2025. However, upon not finding such a page, I decided to at least add some details about the mission on the page Space-based measurements of carbon dioxide. Now, as I am not too proficient in creating new pages, can someone in this group please create a page on MicroCarb as I think this work is relevant to someone more experienced in creating satellite pages and I feel that this group is appropriate for such dealings. Manav2311 (talk) 14:18, 25 July 2025 (UTC)

MicroCarb is now a redirect page 'with possibilities': https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MicroCarb&redirect=no (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 00:27, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight/Adopt an astronaut needs revival

So just going through the sub-projects of this group. I visited Adopt an astronaut page and found that it is still on NASA Astronaut Group 16 while presently (as of 2025) we are at NASA Astronaut Group 24. ESA, ISRO and UAE also had their astronaut programs since. I checked the edit history and found out that the last major edit was in September 2023. Now I don't know if the project is defunct (as it isn't according to project page) or just forgotten. But can someone please look into it (possibly someone in leadership position within this group). Also, can someone tell me how to know the current assessment of a group of articles / bunch of different groups (or maybe how to use the assessment bot to auto-update the list on the above mentioned sub-project page). Manav2311 (talk) 10:28, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Regarding assessment of articles you may find these links useful:

• Assessing spaceflight articles by quality and by importance.

Regarding Astronaut pages, please consider taking a leadership role yourself in the effort! WP:BOLD (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 00:20, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

@Sdsds I have updated the working group with the latest astronaut groups of ISRO, NASA, JAXA and ESA. However, working (editing) all of them for one person is simply not possible, other members of the task force seem to be latent or working on other projects. The above message is meant for editors in WT:SPACEFLIGHT to kindly visit the sub-project page and "adopt an astronaut". In this way we can revive the working group or else it would be best if the project moderators decide to defunct the group since no major update has been done on the sub-project page since September 2024.

Also, thanks for redirecting me to by quality and by importance pages. Although, the most appropriate page would be WP:ASSESS, I had already read this page twice. My question is a bit more technical - how do I add the astronaut pages to Spaceflight project so that the WB 1.0 Bot auto-updates their current evaluation. Since then, I have tried adding the {WikiProject Spaceflight|importance=|astronaut=yes} to all the astronaut pages individuals so that JL BOT can detect them and add to recognised content and therafter the assessment bot can auto-update the pages by considering them a part of the main Spaceflight project. I found many articles (in adopt an astronaut) not updated by the bot since 2020 on Wikipedia 1.0 Server (eg. NASA Astronaut group 21,22 and 23) and some couldn't be linked to Spaceflight at all whereas they are clearly realated to our project.

All in all, I just want someone to tell me how to make the articles/their talk pages added to the bot's automatic updation list. Is the above process which I am following valid for doing so ? as I have not seen any results yet. Manav2311 (talk) 04:57, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

When we constructed the Adopt an astronaut page, the focus was on the early groups. Over time, it has been slowly extended. NASA Astronaut Group 16 was the most recent one with astronauts we were actually working on. The project is not defunct; I had Scott Carpenter at FAC in April. Anyway, bottom line is this: I can nominate astronaut articles for FAC and GAN, but I need reviewers! Let me know if you are interested in reviewing, and I can send articles for review. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 06:38, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

@Hawkeye7 Thank you for the offer. Maybe after carefully reviewing (reading and understanding) the quality scale, I can help you with assessment. Also, as you said, Group 16 was the most recent one, then we have to add that at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight/Adopt an astronaut and follow the protocol mentioned there, i.e., to add name of the "adoptee" infront of the "project" in the table of "astronauts". If the previous groups (Mercury to 15) are done, then we should remove them/ archive them from the page and add the next group so that people can focus on only those.

Please, update the page on your convenience. (I think the main contributor (User:Kees08) who managed the sub-project is dormant since June 2024. So can you please assume the leadership of the project, @Hawkeye7 or if you have anyone else in mind, please do ask them to do the relevant changes to the project page and attract more editors. Manav2311 (talk) 07:30, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

Work on the first groups is not finished yet. I have one from each FAC-ready: Gordon Cooper (Group 1), James McDivitt (Group 2), Bill Anders (Group 3) and Ron Evans (Group 5). Also the main articles on NASA Astronaut Group 3, NASA Astronaut Group 4, NASA Astronaut Group 5, NASA Astronaut Group 7 and NASA Astronaut Group 8. Take your pick.

Groups 1 and 2 are already featured topics; Groups 3 and 5 require a series of Good Article nominations. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:51, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

Okay, I have nominated NASA Astronaut Group 3 at FAC. You can find the review page here. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:50, 2 August 2025 (UTC)