Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Infoboxes/Archive 12

Archive 5

←

Archive 10

Archive 11

Archive 12

Discussion at Talk:Martin O'Donnell

Hello. There's a discussion regarding the infobox changes on the Martin O'Donnell article over at Talk:Martin O'Donnell#Infobox discussion that may be of interest to project members. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 05:40, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Infobox broken for WHA amateur draft

The Template:Infobox ice hockey biography is suddenly showing redlinks for the year a player was chosen in the WHA amateur draft – if chosen in any of the 1973 through 1976 drafts. See Bob Neely (first overall 1973), Pat Price (ice hockey) (first overall 1974), Claude Larose (ice hockey, born 1955) (first overall 1975) and Blair Chapman (first overall 1976). The template is working for players drafted by the WHA in 1977, as seen at 1977 first overall pick Scott Campbell (ice hockey, born 1957). Jmg38 (talk) 21:24, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Those years' WHA amateur draft articles have incorrect capitalization in their article names. Those should be located at e.g. 1973 WHA amateur draft instead of 1973 WHA Amateur Draft, and the template expects the correct capitalization. VanIsaac, GHTV ^cont_WpWS 01:15, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Template_talk:Infobox_musical_artist on changing the origin label to reduce ambiguity

I posted a proposal at Template_talk:Infobox_musical_artist to address recurring confusion over the origin parameter of Template:Infobox_musical_artist. The label is currently Origin, which for individual artists incorrectly suggests to many readers and even some editors that the parameter value represents the birthplace of the artist. Dotyoyo (talk) 08:07, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Small changes to {{Infobox climbing route}}

It is easy for an ordinary editor to make small changes to infoboxes (or is that not advised)? I want to add 'first female free ascent' to {{Infobox climbing route}} - is that a big job to do, or is it something that I could do myself? thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 13:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

@Aszx5000: Nope, it's pretty easy. Just click on the edit tab and take a look at how the information is organized in the template. You'll notice that there are a bunch of lines where you have "label" + # followed by "data" + # that contains all the pieces of information in the infobox. Just figure out where you want your new information to go and use that number, incrementing the numbers for all the following things. Before you save changes to the template, you need to add the parameter on an article with the template. Then use the "preview page with this template" option down below instead of the normal preview button so you can see if it works properly before you save the template changes. VanIsaac, GHTV ^cont_WpWS 16:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Two people covered by one article

What is the proper infobox to use for an article about a creative duo (see Campana brothers)? Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 11:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

It really depends on what they are known for. Figure out which infobox you would use as a module if it were the individual, and just use that template bare. VanIsaac, GHTV ^cont_WpWS 04:33, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

For example, Wright brothers just uses Infobox person, whereas The Righteous Brothers uses Infobox musical artist. However, I would say that it is premature to add an infobox to Campana brothers. Instead, I think editors should focus next on filling out the article with more research and biographical details, and adding a good WP:LEAD. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:45, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, Ssilvers, the Wright brothers article is an excellent example. I'll use this as the starting point (when the article is ready for an infobox, of course). Do you know if it is also possible to use Infobox person/Wikidata with this method? -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 07:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Just getting started

Looking for advice. There are many articles for military electronics that share common types of information in the body. I’ve got ideas regarding what parameters should be included in an infobox. Looking at other infobox template /doc pages, I’ve also tried to list the parameters using standard naming, like “name” and “image”, etc… I looked for a spot to request the infobox be created, but I think it might be quicker to do most of the work myself. The advice I need; how do I get started? If you can help, or want to leave advice on a talk page, I’ve started to document some requirements here. Thanks! — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 03:12, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Frankly, just find an infobox that sort of looks like what you are going for and look at its code. Find "edit" or "view source" towards the top of the page to get a peek behind the curtains. If you understand the basics from help:template of what you are seeing, it should be pretty straightforward, and you should get a good idea of how an infobox works. I'd definitely also familiarize myself with help:conditional expressions, as they do a lot of work in most infoboxes, and can really throw you off if you don't know how to read them. VanIsaac, GHTV ^cont_WpWS 07:04, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

@Vanisaac, thank you so much for your advice! — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 21:44, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

Are you sure there isn't an infobox that covers that type? Gonnym (talk) 22:20, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

I checked pretty thoroughly before I asked here. The closest I found was Infobox Radar, but that works for all radar systems and not any aviation (avionics) systems. — TadgStirkland⁴⁰¹ (Tadg^Talk) 00:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Template talk:Infobox Chinese/Japanese#Requested move 31 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Template talk:Infobox Chinese/Japanese#Requested move 31 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Template talk:Infobox Chinese/Japanese#Requested move 31 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Template talk:Infobox Chinese/Japanese#Requested move 31 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Frost 16:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Request for comment

Should the infobox template for countries be expanded to include greenhouse gas emissions? See the request at Template talk:Infobox country#Request for comment on greenhouse emissions

20WattSphere (talk) 12:07, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

No. There are lots of major problems that countries face -- nuclear stockpile, number of incarcerated residents, number of impoverished residents. All these things should be discussed in the article, but we should keep infoboxes concise. Indeed, we should be considering what we can remove from infoboxes which are, by necessity, redundant, as they are restating facts that should already be stated and referenced in the article. -- -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:31, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) § Creating Template:Wikidata Infobox

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) § Creating Template:Wikidata Infobox, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Thryduulf (talk) 13:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC) Thryduulf (talk) 13:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Art collective infobox

Hello all, I have designed an infobox to be used for art collectives (as at the moment the options are either the artist or organisation infoboxes, neither which really fit). It is over here in my sandbox and would love any feedback on the infobox or advice on if it is ready to be published. Thank you! -- NotCharizard ^🗨 07:18, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Website should probably be at the very bottom, no? Remsense ‥ 诉 08:51, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

i had thought about it, but then it would be in the “art” section. do you recommend any alternative formatting/heading? -- NotCharizard ^🗨 14:50, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

I'd just give it its own section. Remsense ‥ 诉 14:56, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Ah, of course. Cheers, I have done that, I've also updated the example. -- NotCharizard ^🗨 19:23, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Does anyone have any issues with me publishing this infobox? -- NotCharizard ^🗨 00:06, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Template talk:Infobox animanga § Music parameter

 You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:Infobox animanga § Music parameter, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 06:20, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Proposed changes to Template:Infobox academic

There is a proposal to reorganize Template:Infobox academic. Please feel free to participate in the discussion here. Thanks! — hike395 (talk) 05:31, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

A complaint about an Infobox template

I noticed on several London railway station articles that the template Infobox London station uses factually incorrect wording.

In the source editor, it shows one parameter asborough = but on the visual editor, when you exit the Infobox edit page, it says “Local authority”. I don’t agree with this because to speak of an authority, is to speak of a group that governs, like a council. Editors put London boroughs in the parameter. And I don’t blame them. It does say “borough” on the parameter. But London boroughs are not authorities. Their councils are. For example, the London Borough of Camden is administered by Camden London Borough Council. This matter has been discussed for some time now at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography#Places and their unitary authorities, which they drifted into this argument whilst raising concern for the misunderstanding of unitary authorities. Although that talk has come to a sudden end and not reached consensus yet, the editors involved in the conversation - which administrators have also said the following - are on the side of districts not to be called authorities or not to be confused with authorities.

I am typing this to raise concern for the incorrect information and hopefully raise a discussion of why the Infobox does this and how we can improve.

I await your response. FeistyRooster (talk) 14:30, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

Naive question: why not change the infobox's description from "Local authority" to "Borough"? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:45, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

I don't know how to do that. FeistyRooster (talk) 14:52, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

The usual procedure is to raise your concern at Template talk:Infobox London station and notify the relevant projects, e.g. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject London Transport. To make that change, edit Template:Infobox London station/sandbox by first copying (synchronising) from Template:Infobox London station and then changing |label2 = Local authority to |label2 = [[London boroughs|Borough]], and then inspect Template:Infobox London station/testcases how that change appears. Finally, make that change in Template:Infobox London station. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 00:37, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Parameters with space in the name

I would like to call your attention to Template talk:Infobox#Parameters with space in the name. As it could have ramifications to the project, your participation would be appreciated.
Yiba (talk | contribs) 02:10, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

No boroughs in infoboxes...just cities

There is a content dispute at Talk:Linda Lovelace#Birthplace in infobox, where an editor insists that "Place of birth: city, administrative region, country"...means if the place of birth is anything but a "city"--such at a borough, village, town, or canton--it cannot be included. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 14:17, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Where to report a broken infobox?

Hi all

I'm not sure if I should report this here on the infobox talk page, I assume that this page has much higher traffic and the issue is more likely to be fixed, also I don't know if it is some kind of structural issue (I know some infoboxes share things). I've discovered that the channel link in Template:Infobox YouTube personality isn't working. As an example try clicking on the channel link in the infobox in Tolarian Community College, it goes to the correct link but then YouTube just redirects you to the front page. My guess is that YouTube has changed how it structures channel URLs and this just hasn't been picked up yet. It looks like some people are doing some kind of workaround using full URLs eg ContraPoints, but it does seem like something is broken.

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 13:06, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Its also seems like the gold_button=yes and silver_button=yes tags don't work correctly. John Cummings (talk) 14:40, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

• I've implemented a fix on the /channel/channel_name links, but unless I can find a /user/ link to research, I'm not sure if I've completely solved the problem yet. VanIsaac, GHTV ^contr_about 15:25, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Well, turns out I broke other things with the fix. So I've asked at template talk:Infobox YouTube personality about how to handle things. VanIsaac, GHTV ^contr_about 18:02, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi Vanisaac, thanks very much for your help, this is all way above my technical ability :) John Cummings (talk) 09:52, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

DIY combo table-infobox for ship article

The article BAP Carrasco has a non-Wikitable class table with Infoboxes embedded in the cells, to make what in the end, looks like one Infobox. Is this (or was this) a standard way of creating them? Mathglot (talk) 05:52, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, that's how {{infobox ship}} has always functioned (see the usage guide), though the decision was made to merge the templates back in 2022 (which apparently hasn't happened yet). Parsecboy (talk) 10:28, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Wow, that's kind of a surprise. Well, I can see why they haven't been merged yet, as it would be a fair bit of work. Even just updating the doc page would be non-trivial. Thanks for the update.

I don't feel like taking it on just now, but as a template editor, at first glance I think I see how I would approach it if I wanted to do this, which would be in three major steps (with some sub-tasks, not shown):

1. Write a wrapper template, not based on invoking {{Infobox}}, but rather on all four of the individual templates now described on the usage guide page, the goal being to render an Infobox exactly as you have now using the individual templates, but via only one template (the wrapper), instead of several. A new doc page could be written for the wrapper, looking just like a standard Infobox doc page.
2. Write a second, transitional wrapper, that would automatically pull existing param values from the wikicode of the four ship templates on the page using {{tmpv}} and then invoke the main wrapper with those values, obviating the need to convert existing articles to use the wrapper. Three new lines would be needed per article to transition: one line to invoke the transitional wrapper, and one <includeonly>...</includeonly> pair surrounding the existing four ship templates.
3. After a period of usage to shake out any issues, bugs, or questions, write a new template in the sandbox which would invoke {{Infobox}} and duplicate the output of the wrapper. Releasing it should be seamless, and not visible to users of it. In theory, the doc page would need no updates at all, if properly written for the wrapper. Existing articles could be converted to the new, single template if desired, or just keep using the transitional wrapper, which should look identical. Future ship articles would just use the single template from step 3.

Maybe if I get the time some time later, I'll do it. Mathglot (talk) 10:53, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Holding cell § Infoboxes.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:21, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

Please join the discussion at Template talk:Infobox ship#Proposal for a new merged version. Kcx36 (talk) 07:05, 15 April 2025 (UTC)