Wikipedia talk:Requested moves
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Bold moves and previous objections
[edit]Regarding the requirements at WP:BOLDMOVE:
Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:
- No article exists at the new target title;
- There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
- It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.
This should be clarified as either:
- Any objection to the new title
- Any objection applicable to the new title
- Any objection to any new title
Jruderman (talk) 20:52, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- The meaning is "any new title", because such comments are by extension a minimal endorsement of the current title. I do not believe this actually needs to be rephrased for clarity, but if it does, it could be altered to "There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to moving the page." Dekimasuよ! 11:26, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed, objection to moving the page to Title A will likely hold for Title B as well; opposition specifically to Title B does not strictly need to have been voiced for a bold move to be theoretically off the table. Primefac (talk) 11:46, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
- Late here, but this has always been my read, as well. If someone objected to some other proposed move, they were on some level defending the current title. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk 00:49, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed, objection to moving the page to Title A will likely hold for Title B as well; opposition specifically to Title B does not strictly need to have been voiced for a bold move to be theoretically off the table. Primefac (talk) 11:46, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
- The meaning is "any new title", because such comments are by extension a minimal endorsement of the current title. I do not believe this actually needs to be rephrased for clarity, but if it does, it could be altered to "There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to moving the page." Dekimasuよ! 11:26, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
To move my profile into Public
[edit]I created the article User:Judhisthir Reang about an Indian politician. I would like it moved to Judhisthir Reang as a public article. Please help move it from my user page to article space. Thank you! Judhisthir Reang (talk) 15:36, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- I have moved your page to Draft:Judhisthir Reang, as it is not currently suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia. Please add additional independent reliable sources that discuss the subject in detail. This is both to demonstrate notability as well as give verification for facts about a living person. Primefac (talk) 16:36, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
Missing points in the instructions on how to close a discussion
[edit]There is a missing point in the closing instructions. The instructions start with point 1: determine the consensus.
The first point should be to check the guidelines that are the basis for the RM per the bullet points following the sub-heading "When participating, please consider the following" in the "Commenting on a requested move" section. If the move request meets the guidelines, and what editors opposing the RM say contravenes the guidelines, it shouldn't matter how many people oppose the move.
As the same guidelines for closing an RM say, "This is not a vote". HandsomeFella (talk) 11:47, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Part of determining consensus is doing that; there are at least two explanatory essays linked at Wikipedia:Requested moves § Closing a requested move and Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions § Determining consensus that expand on that sort of point. I'm not sure that we need to explicitly say "make sure this move is valid", because the whole point of a move discussion is to determine if it is a valid move. Primefac (talk) 11:59, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- My sad experience though is that many closing editors seem to be just counting votes.
- I think I've seen somewhere that there is a way to "appeal" a move that one thinks was carried out erroneously.
- How do I go about it if I have an RM closed as "not moved" based on votes rather than what guidelines say? Is there a procedure for "appealing" a "not moved" closure too? HandsomeFella (talk) 13:12, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- According to WP:MR,
Move review is a process to formally discuss and evaluate a contested close of Wikipedia page move discussions
(emphasis added). If you disagree with a close, by all means contest it, regardless of the result itself. Primefac (talk) 13:24, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- According to WP:MR,
Requested move from user space
[edit]Hi, I'd like to request an article be moved from my user space to public space (from User:Logan06767 (User:Logan06767 - Wikipedia) to 'India May'. This article is about an American politician running for state office in Iowa. Logan06767 (talk) 19:40, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
Not done for now.
- Hi Logan06767 and welcome to Wikipedia :)
- I recommend you move the page to your WP:SANDBOX while you're working on it.
- Also, we will need reliable sources supporting the content before we can move the article into the article space.
- I recommend you review some of our WP:Getting started and WP:A primer for newcomers#On building an article to help you familiarize yourself with our guidelines on writing a great article for Wikipedia :) You are also welcome to go to the WP:TEAHOUSE if you should have any further questions. Raladic (talk) 20:02, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, I moved the page to User:Logan06767/sandbox - Wikipedia and added cited sources! Is there anything else that would be needed before moving this article to the public space? Logan06767 (talk) 15:18, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi,
- Thanks for adding some sources to your draft. I took a closer look and if we move the article to the article space right now, it will likely be nominated for deletion as it doesn't have much content and sources in the article yet. I took a closer look at the sources available discussing her and believe that she passes the WP:GNG criteria as there is enough significant coverage beyond the townhall event, but some of that content and the sources should ideally be in the article before its published to the article space.
- You could either continue to develop the article yourself in your User:Logan06767/sandbox, or, if you'd like, we could help move it to our WP:DRAFTS space where other editors may also come across the draft and help with improving it to get it ready for the article space.
- Since I took a closer look, I also have a list of sources that can help with improving the article and might help out a bit myself when/if I get a moment. I'll drop the sources into the talk page associated with your sandbox draft for now.
- I just wanted to ask you first before moving it to the draft space. Let me know what you think. Raladic (talk) 21:42, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the advice! I added some more sources to the article. Do you think there's anything else that would be needed before moving to the public space? Logan06767 (talk) 19:48, 1 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, I moved the page to User:Logan06767/sandbox - Wikipedia and added cited sources! Is there anything else that would be needed before moving this article to the public space? Logan06767 (talk) 15:18, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Missing parameter in some RMTR requests
[edit]@Tenshi Hinanawi: on your edit summary at Special:Diff/1301064387, I've noticed the blank | requester =
parameters on some of the IPv6 requests, too! I'm wondering if maybe a couple (?) of unregistered people are filling in the /core subtemplate manually, instead of using {{subst:RMassist}}? Just some idle musings, I guess. Anyway, thanks for all your hard work clerking technical requests! Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 00:40, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- My guess is that they only see other requests as {{RMassist/core}} so they copy that, but because they don't know their IP, they leave it blank, meaning that the bot can't notify them and logs the request on its error page. — Tenshi! (Talk page) 00:52, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Request to move draft
[edit]Please move User:Decentralizedgirl/sandbox to Alisa Lozhkina.
The article is ready for mainspace, fully sourced and neutral. It includes references from Thames & Hudson, Artnet, Texte zur Kunst, Los Angeles Review of Books, and Harvard. Decentralizedgirl (talk) 21:16, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Decentralizedgirl:
- This is the wrong venue for submitting a draft; you should instead submit your draft to Wikipedia:Articles for creation (also known as AFC) by clicking the button "Submit for review" or by putting the text {{subst:submit}} at the top of the draft in the Source Editor.
- Also, I noticed that your draft has Markdown formatting in it (a single asterisk placed around words, *like this*, is one way to italicize text in Markdown; proper wikitext uses two apostrophes), which is a sign of AI-generated content. If your article was AI-generated, it may not be accepted at AFC; if it was AI-generated, please rewrite it in your own (human) words. Thank you. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 21:54, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
- It appears you have created it as a draft at Draft:Alisa Lozhkina now. Please click on the "submit draft for review" button there instead to request review for publishing. Raladic (talk) 21:55, 26 July 2025 (UTC)
name changed
[edit]An Pongsun should be changed into Ahn Bong-Soon. Please change it. 칼빈500 (talk) 15:51, 30 July 2025 (UTC)
- Please see WP:RSPM for the instructions on opening a requested move discussion. 162 etc. (talk) 16:25, 30 July 2025 (UTC)