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[edit]03:49, 21 May 2025 review of submission by Charles George (OTT consultant)
[edit]I want create a page and include the details please help me with this Charles George (OTT consultant) (talk) 03:49, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Have you been written about by news outlets, not counting interviews, quotes, or name-drops? —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 04:36, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Charles George (OTT consultant) Do you pass WP:BIO? If so, though almost no-one succeeds in writing their autobiography (inability to be neutral, unable to stand back far enough to avoid puffery, etc etc) then go ahead. If not, then please waste no-one's time including your own. Your user name suggests that you are an "Over-The-Top" consultant. This suggests that you are used to optimising your clients' offerings and may seek to optimise your own.
- We do not have pages where you can say what you please about yourself. We have articles which summarise what others have been reported as saying about topics, people, things, in significant coverage (greater than three decent paragraphs) in multiple secondary sources es which are independent of the subject of the article. Achieve that and there is no problem. Faiks to achieve that and there is no article. Engage in promotional activities and there is a strong probability of removal of editing privileges. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 07:28, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Charles George (OTT consultant) You need to be aware, also, that creation of any article for a client means that you must make a full declaration under WP:PAID, and that making such a declaration does not absolve any editor froth rules, policies and procedures of Wikipedia. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 07:36, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
07:58, 21 May 2025 review of submission by Artmovementrevolution
[edit]i need asistance in writting the article in a format expected of an encyclopedia article Artmovementrevolution (talk) 07:58, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Your draft tells about this movement- not summarizes what independent reliable sources say about it. I suggest you look at some other articles about schools of art- impressionism maybe- to get an idea of what is being looked for. 331dot (talk) 08:43, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
08:49, 21 May 2025 review of submission by Polparioritsas
[edit]I want to delete the draft due to confict Polparioritsas (talk) 08:49, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- You don't need to delete the draft merely due to a conflict of interest; the draft process is the correct way for someone to submit a draft about a topic for which they have a conflict of interest. However, if you would like it deleted, I can do so. 331dot (talk) 10:23, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
10:00, 21 May 2025 review of submission by XRsensei
[edit]Hi! I’m affiliated with AMAZE and have submitted a draft article about the company at User:XRsensei/sandbox through the Articles for Creation process. The article is fully cited with independent coverage from sources like TechCrunch, Billboard, CNN, and Fast Company, and written in a neutral tone.
If any reviewer has time to take a look or provide early feedback, I’d be sincerely grateful. Thank you! XRsensei (talk) 10:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- XRsensei I fixed your link so you didn't link to a page called "Request for review of sandbox draft: AMAZE (User:XRsensei/sandbox)". Please disclose the general nature of your affiliation on your user page, see conflict of interest and paid editing(which includes employment).
- You have submitted it for review and it is pending; the reviewer will leave you feedback. 331dot (talk) 10:04, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @XRsensei I have reviewed it. NeoGaze (talk) 10:09, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- NeoGaze I respectfully disagree with the result of your review; the article just summarizes the routine business activities of the company and its offerings; the award mentioned lacks an article itself, meaning that it doesn't contribute to notability either. 331dot (talk) 10:54, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @331dot To me it appears this company fullfills the primary criteria of notability specifically for organizations and companies. Granted, a couple of citations are needed, but these refer to minor parts of the article, and can be added later on. If you think I have misinterpreted something or made a mistake, please tell me more clearly what I did wrong, thanks. NeoGaze (talk) 11:03, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- I misspoke in that the Webby Awards have an article, so maybe that's enough, but the bulk of the article is just routine coverage that does not meet WP:ORGDEPTH. Personally I would not have accepted it until that was slimmed down, given the COI/PAID of the editor, but the award is probably enough to prevent a successful AfD, so I won't take further action. 331dot (talk) 11:11, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @331dot To me it appears this company fullfills the primary criteria of notability specifically for organizations and companies. Granted, a couple of citations are needed, but these refer to minor parts of the article, and can be added later on. If you think I have misinterpreted something or made a mistake, please tell me more clearly what I did wrong, thanks. NeoGaze (talk) 11:03, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- NeoGaze I respectfully disagree with the result of your review; the article just summarizes the routine business activities of the company and its offerings; the award mentioned lacks an article itself, meaning that it doesn't contribute to notability either. 331dot (talk) 10:54, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
11:14, 21 May 2025 review of submission by Sspccomms
[edit]Hi, I was wondering if there could be some elaboration or help with the sources for this page in order to get it approved. Sspccomms (talk) 11:14, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- User soft blocked for username. 331dot (talk) 11:16, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
13:06, 21 May 2025 review of submission by Cavaliere ospitaliero
[edit]I'm tring to write this voice. what should i add?
Cavaliere ospitaliero (talk) 13:06, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
16:11, 21 May 2025 review of submission by Theriazz123
[edit]- Theriazz123 (talk · contribs)
I would like assistance on how to submit my draft? Theriazz123 (talk) 16:11, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Theriazz123: The lot of your sources are the usual pre-release publicity blitz that doesn't help for eligibility (routine coverage). Wait until the film releases and gets professional reviews, then come back and write an article based on those reviews. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 16:35, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
17:22, 21 May 2025 review of submission by Luigimartin0737
[edit]I have been declined Luigimartin0737 (talk) 17:22, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have rejected your draft and nominated for deletion as it purely a promotional piece about you and in no way resembles an article; I strongly urge you to read WP:YFA and WP:AUTOBIO. CoconutOctopus talk 17:25, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Luigimartin0737: This draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. No sources, no article, no debate. The draft as written is also hagiographical in tone. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 17:26, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
18:00, 21 May 2025 review of submission by Fnoing
[edit]I am new to editing wikipedia, i would like to have the widely popular game that i am obsessed with have a wikipedia page and would like some form of guidance or help on how to make that happen.Fnoing (talk) 18:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Fnoing The draft has been rejected, typically meaning it won't be considered further. Popularity does not by itself confer notability. Please see the messages left by reviewers. If you just want to tell the world about the game, you should use social media or other website with less stringent requirements(like a gaming wiki). 331dot (talk) 18:07, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
18:20, 21 May 2025 review of submission by 92.17.18.171
[edit]- 92.17.18.171 (talk · contribs)
Because it's not finished with review. 92.17.18.171 (talk) 18:20, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- I think you are mistaken. It is finished. It has been rejected. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 20:05, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
19:41, 21 May 2025 review of submission by AnniesWiki91
[edit]- AnniesWiki91 (talk · contribs)
What is the issue with this? I don't see any peacocking and there are plenty references. AnniesWiki91 (talk) 19:41, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- I am confused why this is not notable enough when similar companies (Rebag etc) have pages. AnniesWiki91 (talk) 19:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @AnniesWiki91 I have merged your two questions. Please do not create multiple threads.
- "Plenty of references" there maybe. Do they pass WP:42. Please engage with the rejecting reviewer directly.
- Please also read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Historically there are many articles which should not be here. But there are relatively few folk to remove them, let alone find them. Please feel free to flag those you mention for deletion 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 20:04, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @AnniesWiki91: Refer to User:Jéské Couriano/Decode:
- https://www.luxurylifestylemag.co.uk/style-and-beauty/behind-the-brand-talking-luxury-resale-with-andrew-brown-founder-of-mygemma/ doesn't help for eligibility (connexion to subject). Interview with company principal.
- We can't use https://www.pymnts.com/news/retail/2024/mygemma-ceo-luxury-resale-network-effect-fosters-loyalty-repeat-business/ (unknown provenance). Role byline; who wrote this?
- https://www.cheddar.com/media/how-to-spot-a-fake-luxury-bag/ doesn't help for eligibility (connexion to subject). Video with company principal.
- We can't use https://www.bonhams.com/press_release/35552/ (connexion to subject) and even if we could it wouldn't help for eligibility (routine coverage). Clearly marked press release from a company partnering with MyGemma.
- We can't use https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/wp-diamonds-merges-with-mygemma-providing-a-singular-destination-for-online-luxury-resale-301945086.html (connexion to subject). PRNewswire only ever publishes press releases as a PR-flack-for-hire. Same applies to https://www.wate.com/business/press-releases/cision/20240529NY26080/mygemmas-fifth-avenue-showroom-launches/ (Cision is PRNewswire's parent company).
- I can't assess https://www.luxurydaily.com/wp-diamonds-merges-with-mygemma-to-create-singular-platform/ (walled), but given the title I feel safe in saying this wouldn't help for eligibility as M&A news (routine coverage). Same applies to https://www.luxurydaily.com/mygemma-widens-access-to-preloved-wear-with-luxury-stores-at-amazon/ albeit for different reasons (service news).
- https://www.glossy.co/fashion/tiktok-shop-is-driving-sales-for-resale-companies-even-as-fakes-flood-the-platform/ is borderline. It discusses MyGemma, but the article is primarily about shopping on TikTok.
- https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lifestyle/shopping/best-luxury-designer-fashion-deals-amazon-1235614605/ doesn't help for eligibility (too sparse). Name in a list and a sales listing, no discussion of MyGemma what-so-ever.
- https://www.businessoffashion.com/articles/workplace-talent/bof-careers-fashion-brands-hiring-broken-planet-my-gemma/ doesn't help for eligibility (connexion to subject). This is from a firm that is partnering with MyGemma.
- https://nationaljeweler.com/articles/13645-mygemma-now-offers-consignment-service doesn't help for eligibility (routine coverage). Service news.
- We can't use https://ecologi.com/mygemma (too sparse, connexion to subject).
- https://wwd.com/sustainability/business/resale-rental-fashion-startups-funding-july-1235245672/ is borderline, verging on unhelpful for eligibility (too sparse). The section of this listicle dedicated to them is 65% direct quotes from the company principal.
- As for Rebag, you might notice that it has maintenance tags on the top of it. It was also never drafted. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 06:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rebag, @Jéské Couriano. Thank you @AnniesWiki91 for drawing this to our attention. Now the community will reach a conclusion. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 07:30, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
19:48, 21 May 2025 review of submission by EncyclopedianWP
[edit]Sources and expansion EncyclopedianWP (talk) 19:48, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- You don't really ask a question, but you resubmitted your draft. 331dot (talk) 20:00, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
21:12, 21 May 2025 review of submission by Catjwjj
[edit]Hello, I have a lot of 1980s (pre internet) material on John's career including performances and itinerary how can submit this information for review, or does it all have to be on the internet. John had a special performance in Manchester performed in his memory by BBC.
He would have died 40 years ago next month
Catjwjj (talk) 21:12, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Catjwjj Non online material is fine as a reference. Please read WP:CITE on how to cite it (as well as online material). References must pass wp:42, so please measure what you wish to use against that.
- Internet archives tend to be digitising older material, so a search might bear fruit. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 21:17, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Catjwjj, I echo what TimTrent says. "performances and itinerary" does not sound as if these are independent, in-depth sources - though reviews of the performances might be. ColinFine (talk) 13:32, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
21:49, 21 May 2025 review of submission by Cinematic Quill
[edit]My article is declined with note imdb is not good source - should I remove it (proof of successful movies). What is the best sources to use in article? Cinematic Quill (talk) 21:49, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, @Cinematic Quill. Indeed, WP:IMDB is not regarded as a reliable source, because it is largely user-generated, and not overseen by an editor or editors with a reputation for fact-checking. (For the same reason, Wikipedia is not regarded as a reliable source).
- Please see WP:Reliable sources for more about reliable sources. ColinFine (talk) 13:34, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
22:32, 21 May 2025 review of submission by Khh57
[edit]I do't understand why my sources are not considered to be reputable. Khh57 (talk) 22:32, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- You'll need to take that up with the declining reviewer, @Khh57. But on a quick look, it appears to me that many of the sources are not independent (rather than not reliable). Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 13:36, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for the reply. I am still confused, just because I am writing about this studio and their exhibitions are listed on their own website. Is their website not considered to be independent? Are the websites of the museums in which they held exhibitions also not independent? 199.79.156.12 (talk) 16:59, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
22:44, 21 May 2025 review of submission by Irisandlilian
[edit]I created a page in my sandbox that already exists as a stub and would like to publish it. However, since the page already exists I am unable to publish it, how do I work around this? Irisandlilian (talk) 22:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- You appear to have copied the content of your sandbox to Thermocrinis ruber. Generally, copy and paste is not the best way to do this, as it loses some history; but since it was your own material you were copying, and the existing history of the article is still there, I don't think there is any harm done. In future, please look at merging. ColinFine (talk) 13:40, 22 May 2025 (UTC)