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Radio programs/programmes
Is there a style for radio programme discussions regarding the order of its title, date, host/presenter, participants, series title and the station broadcasting it?
Is there a more appropriate page for this question? Mcljlm (talk) 00:16, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Do you perhaps mean a style for radio programme articles? If you want to ask about such articles you might try Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Radio, somnolent though it seems to be. -- Hoary (talk) 00:51, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- I should have said Hoary how to mention them in external links. Mcljlm (talk) 02:00, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Help talk:Citation Style 1? -- Hoary (talk) 02:08, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Mcljlm You could try using the template {{Cite AV media}}, which includes an external link if needed, and will put its many possible parameters in an accepted sequence for display. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:30, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Help talk:Citation Style 1? -- Hoary (talk) 02:08, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- I should have said Hoary how to mention them in external links. Mcljlm (talk) 02:00, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
Paid resources access
I previously remember that Wikipedia offered access to its more active editors to resources normally only accessible through paid subsciptions, i.e. newspapers. Could someone remind me how to get access to this service? SMargan (talk) 00:32, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- WP:The Wikipedia Library. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:34, 19 February 2025 (UTC)`
- @* Pppery * Talk - Thanks for you prompt reply. I will check this link out and report back if I have any problems. SMargan (talk) 00:58, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
Multiple or Dual 'Info Boxes'
I am currently doing work on a School whose initial building is a heritge building. The article has an 'info box' of a heritage building, however, because it still functions as a school, a school 'info box' would also be approriate. Is there any way of having two 'info boxes' for the same Wikipedia article, or at least a dual 'info box', i.e. for both the heritage build and school functionality of the subject of the Wikipedia article? Thanks in advance for your time in answering this question? SMargan (talk) 00:56, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Certain infoboxes have a "module" or "embedded" field where another infobox can be embedded as a part of them. Check the template page of the two infobox you wish to use for detail. Usually the child infobox would just be written into the "module" or "embedded" field and include the "embed=yes" or "child=yes" parameter. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 01:13, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Tutwakhamoe (talk) - Thank you for your efforts! Yes, it appears that the "Heritgage Building" 'info box' does have a "Embedded" field for that particular functionality. That is precisely what I wanted to know, and your advice has helped me considerably. SMargan (talk) 10:44, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
Wrong status?
Hi, I was scrolling down the List of companies of Canada, finding articles to add logos to, and I saw the Bard Ventures article, and it says it's alive but the article says it's defunct. I think it should be updated to say it is defunct on it's status. Liam9287 (talk) 01:13, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- This is also the case for Ben Moss Jewellers, as I have scrolled a little more. Liam9287 (talk) 01:18, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, wait I confused that with another article, sorry. Ben Moss Jewellers is correctly labelled. Liam9287 (talk) 01:19, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- You're welcome to edit it yourself. If you have a question about how to do something in an edit, you can ask it here. --Slowking Man (talk) 04:19, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- OK, thank you1 Liam9287 (talk) 19:49, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
how to highlight text
I am able in the editing section to highlight text with colored background, but it does not show up as such in the Preview section, nor if I publish it, in the final version. What is the secret to highlighting text, and making it transfer to the edited talk page? Kenfree (talk) 01:38, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Assuming that you're using Template:Background color, make sure that you've filled out all the required parameters (color and text) in order. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 02:10, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Kenfree: It's possible you are seeing syntax highlighting for editors which isn't meant to produce highlighting in the saved page. Please post a link to the page and describe where you want a colored background. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:11, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
Chinese political ideology templates
There's some disagreement over how to structure and categorize the information in a few related templates, given the disputed political status of things over there, which Wikipedia templates might have a hard time putting neatly into the little boxes. To help out, please see: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_China#Political_ideology_templates. Manuductive (talk) 04:27, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
'Edits' section of mobile app
Ever since downloading the Wikipedia mobile app, I've been wondering whether/how the data (including 'Edit quality' and total edit views) shown in the 'Edits' section of the app (above ‘Suggested edits’) can be accessed through a browser, and also how the 'Edit quality' rating, as given in this section of the app, is calculated.
I would have liked to include a screen grab of the 'Edits' section of the app to clarify what I'm talking about, but I can't upload an image to this post so the following text is a transcription of my statistics as given in the app:
Edits
Contributions 240 Views 212658 Last edited 18/02/2025 Edit quality Perfect
I can access my raw statistics (eg. individual page views, number of live vs. deleted edits, etc.) using Xtools, but I'm still wondering whether (and, if so, why) the summarised data given in the app is not also provided in the browser.
I'm not sure that the help desk is the right place to be asking this, but if you can point me in the right direction or give me an idea of a possible reason why there's this difference between the app and the browser version, that would be appreciated! :) Pineapple Storage (talk) 15:38, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- For a list of features in the apps that are not in the browser version, see mw:Wikimedia Apps/Android FAQ. and mw:Wikimedia Apps/iOS FAQ. The Android page has a section mw:Wikimedia Apps/Android FAQ#Contribution history, which I think includes what you are talking about. (As far as I can see, the iOS app does not have this). It doesn't explicitly say that this information is not available in the web interface, but I've never seen it. ColinFine (talk) 17:19, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- @ColinFine Thank you for these links! I wasn't aware of the MW:Wikimedia Apps FAQs, so this is really helpful. Pineapple Storage (talk) 12:32, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- I've been puzzled by those statistics for a while. The page views seem to jump around wildly (I've had a 6-figure number followed half a hour later by 4-figure one, for example). I can say, though, that reverting one of my own edits can make the "quality" go down, as can being caught in a rollback that removes earlier vandalism. I feel the app statistics are pretty meaningless without any indication of how they're calculated. Musiconeologist (talk) 22:23, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Musiconeologist Glad to hear I'm not the only one who's been confused by this! Those details are useful to know, thank you. I agree, it would be helpful to have access to a bit more information about how these figures are calculated! Pineapple Storage (talk) 12:35, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Updating some SVGs for dark mode support?
Is there a style guide for images and artwork, particularly how we're handling the transition to supporting both dark and light themes? A lot of articles have SVG artwork that's black-on-transparent and thus invisible on the dark theme. And I was going to ask how to fix this, perhaps there's a way to make SVGs the same color as the text, or maybe resort to giving these SVGs a white canvas. idk.
Examples: Elder Futhark#Rune names, Runes#Younger Futhark (9th to 11th centuries) NomadicVoxel (talk) 18:30, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- @NomadicVoxel:Ouch. The mechanics of adding a white background to an individual image is simple (download, open in inkscape, add a white rectangle the same size as the page and lower it to the "bottom", upload as a new version of the same image). That's easy. It's even easy to write a program to do the update on a image on your computer. Finding all of the thousands of images that need this is hard, and doing this thousands times is tedious. I do not have the skills automate the find, download, and upload steps. Maybe ask at WP:VPT? -Arch dude (talk) 19:37, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- The catch is, automating it wouldn't always be the best option. There are some SVG images that do automatically adapt to the dark or light theme. How could you programmatically detect those? And, then there's the question of which ones are best for that approach, versus adding a canvas. idk.
- I'll ask at the pump, thanks. NomadicVoxel (talk) 18:58, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Well, idk about automating it like you said, but someone at the pump pointed out a CSS tag for this.
class=skin-invert-image
. - Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Updating SVG art for dark theme support?
- Help:Pictures#Dark mode NomadicVoxel (talk) 00:07, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
List of rail accidents in the United Kingdom 9th December 1970
This accident happened at Chivers Occupation Crossing between Shippea Hill and Lakenheath.
It is referenced in the "Railway Accidents Report to the secretary of state for the environment on the safety record of the railways in Great Britain during the year 1970".
Ref Number: SBN 11 550040 5
The report is in section 123.
Does anyone know about this report, where I can find a copy or is it available online ? or do you happen to have a copy of the report ?
The accident is also mentioned in the published report, Page 4 Paragraph 5. https://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/documents/DoT_Chivers1976.pdf
I need this information to be able to add the accident to the "List of railway accident in the United Kingdom" Isimmons1 (talk) 19:48, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- It is indeed in very few libraries: OCLC 226122951. -- Hoary (talk) 08:30, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. I can't believe you found it.
- It's a shame it's not available online. Isimmons1 (talk) 10:49, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- For future reference: You helpfully specified the SBN; I preceded that with 0 for the (old-style) ISBN (thus ISBN 0-11-550040-5); I fed that to Worldcat. Easy! -- Hoary (talk) 11:21, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Ahh Cool!! thank you for the tip. Isimmons1 (talk) 11:33, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- For future reference: You helpfully specified the SBN; I preceded that with 0 for the (old-style) ISBN (thus ISBN 0-11-550040-5); I fed that to Worldcat. Easy! -- Hoary (talk) 11:21, 20 February 2025 (UTC)