Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Lower Manhattan, August 2001

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 16 Dec 2024 at 18:58:39 (UTC)

Reason: Gorgeous image of Lower Manhattan, a two months before it no longer looked like this. Image is large as well, and I only noted small distortion on a few buildings at the edges of the picture, all the rest are straight from what I've seen. High EV as it depicts a building complex with it's surroundings, just a two months before they left us. Amazing image overall, especially for 2001. May need slight clean-up, I did notice dust at the top.
Articles in which this image appears: Architecture of New York City, World Trade Center (1973–2001), (will add to more articles shortly, surprised it isn't used in more)
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Urban
Creator: Carol M. Highsmith

Support as nominator – E_F⁵ 18:58, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose due to a lot of dust & scratches, needs restoration. --Janke | Talk 21:20, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment — Agree about the dust and scratches. I'd support a restored alt, though. Moonreach (talk) 20:38, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Conditional~~ Support Alt 1 – ~~if the restoration is done~~ now is done. It would be nice if we could source the "August 2001". Bammesk (talk) 02:49, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It would probably in her WTC book (ISBN 9780517220924), if someone has access. blameless 02:06, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About the restoration, I will do it in the next couple of days. Photo was certainly shot post 1997 because that's when the Museum of Jewish Heritage was completed, in foreground. Close enough to 2001 for me to support. Bammesk (talk) 02:34, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Vulcan thinks a restoration will help this image, now waiting and will switch support to Alt 1 if it is ready.–Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 05:02, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I added Alt 1, restored it and fixed the perspective/lens distortion (it was visible at far left and far right). And added the image to the World Trade Center (1973–2001) article. BTW, the date of the photo is July 2001. I verified it in Highsmith's book (per User:Blameless), and added a note on the file page, the book says "two months before" the attacks. Pinging participants @EF5, Janke, Moonreach, and VulcanSphere:, @Blameless:. Bammesk (talk) 18:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

EF5, you need to vote for the Alt, your earlier vote covers the "Original", not "Alt 1". See my vote above. Bammesk (talk) 18:29, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Alt 2 I more like Alt2, but in any case i would support what came out of film. Which i dont know and cant see. So Alt 2 for now. --Petar Milošević (talk) 12:47, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I think there is a color issue. Please see this comment on Commons. Yann (talk) 11:54, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So I made blue tint corrected version. Support Alt2 --Yann (talk) 17:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Alt 2 The blue tint correction looks convincing enough for Vulcan –Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 00:17, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Postpone closure to give time for editors to consider alt 2. @EF5, Janke, Bammesk, Moonreach, Crisco 1492, PetarM, and Hamid Hassani: Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 19:07, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support ALT2 as well. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:56, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support either alt - Moonreach (talk) 16:09, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Armbrust and Yann: Hi. I was out of WP for nearly a week. My vote is Alt 2 indeed, but, I'm sorry that voting period is over now. Best, Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Moved from talk page. @Hamid Hassani: FYI: if you voted on a nomination, than you can update your vote until the discussion is closed (even after the voting period ended). Regards, Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 19:51, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Armbrust, you might want to keep this nom open for another week. I might get a chance to improve "Alt 1" and address the other issues as well, which were noted in the Commons FP nom. Bammesk (talk) 03:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. As it currently stands it’s very close between the two alts too. Regards, Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 03:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did more restoration on Alt 1. Edited tint, colors, brightness, vignetting, and sky noise/artifacts. These were critiqued in the Commons FP nom. FYI, the adjustments are made based on the time of day (per the shadows) which indicate a July mid-late afternoon clear-sunny day. Pinging participants who voted support, please indicate a preference for either "Alt 1" or "Alt 2" so we can close this nom. @EF5, Moonreach, VulcanSphere, Crisco 1492, PetarM, Hamid Hassani, Yann, and Armbrust:. Bammesk (talk) 17:29, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alt 2, Alt 1 has weird color imbalances from the vignette correction. Also, please don't ping me about this discussion any more. I'm not that invested in it. Moonreach (talk) 20:37, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I still support ALT2. The colors are too bright, in my opinion. Sort of looks like ALT1 got flashbanged. E_F⁵ 17:35, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@EF5:, try it again. I just fixed a thumbnail color profile error. See it at This link, because smaller thumbnails might still display exaggerated colors/brightness (because it takes some time for servers to react). You can also click on the image several times to see it at full screen or full size. Bammesk (talk) 18:14, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For comparison Here is a screenshot of her book taken from Archive.org here. It's not a good scan of the book, but it shows the colors and brightness of a sunny afternoon. Bammesk (talk) 18:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still tend to support Alt 2. As I see, the colors seem brighter and clearer, and, e.g, the surface of the water and to some extent the sky also look more natural. – Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:17, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Alt 1 looks much better now, so I don't oppose it anymore, but I still have a slight preference for Alt 2, as mentioned by others above. Yann (talk) 10:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:World Trade Center towers, New York, LCCN2015645969.jpg --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 21:39, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alt 2 has the most support, and therefore it's promoted. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 21:39, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]