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Original - A 4mm Macroxiphus sp. katydid nymph mimics an ant to ward off predators. Pictured in Dar es Salaam. Tanzania
Reason
Looks like an ant? Look again. A 4mm katydid mimicking an ant, because ants are of the most feared insects. Good quality and EV. For such a small subject, DOF is also quite good.
Articles this image appears in
Mimicry, Tettigoniidae, Macroxiphus
Creator
Muhammad

Subject is small in the image, but image is of high quality and while DOF is an issue, head and thorax (and hind legs) are almost entirely in focus. Supports offer good arguments. Consensus is nearly met (depending on how you define "weak" in numbers). Therefore: Promoted Image:Macroxiphus sp cricket.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 05:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Horseshoe pitching contest at the annual field day of the FSA farmworkers community, Yuma, Arizona (1942)
Not for voting - Unrestored original
Reason
The young boys' eyes captivated me. And also: encyclopedic picture of a game of horseshoes at a field day in Yuma, Arizona in 1942. And no, the horizon is not straight. I'm assuming that Russell Lee knew what he was doing when he shot this for the FSA. Restoration included dust and scratchs and dealing with a particularly nastily faded original.
Articles this image appears in
Horseshoes, Field day
Creator
Russell Lee, photographer. Restored by Michel Vuijlsteke

No consensus. Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 06:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - The Scott Monument, Edinburgh, as seen from the first level.
Reason
Fulfils criteria for featured picture; shows high level of detail; is interesting; is aesthetically pleasing
Articles this image appears in
Edinburgh, Scott Monument
Creator
George Gastin

Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 06:06, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Frances Densmore at the Smithsonian Institution in 1916 during a recording session with Blackfoot chief Mountain Chief for the Bureau of American Ethnology.
Not for voting - Unrestored image for comparison.
Reason
Quite encyclopedic image of ethnographer Frances Densmore in the actual process of preserving Native American language and culture. The picture shows Densmore with Mountain Chief, a Blackfoot chief she was recording for the Bureau of American Ethnology.
Articles this image appears in
Blackfoot, Frances Densmore, Bureau of American Ethnology, Ethnomusicology
Creator
Unknown photographer, part of the Library of Congress' National Photo Company Collection. Restored by Michel Vuijlsteke
Google to the rescue[1]! I came across the picture completely by accident on the Library of Congress site, but apparently, in the words of National Geographic[2]:
This 1916 image of Frances Densmore and Blackfoot leader Mountain Chief listening to a cylinder recording has become a symbol of the early songcatcher era.
He's most probably not listening, of course: Densmore is recording onto a wax cylinder. The picture was published in Mickey Hart, K.M. Kostyal, Songcatchers: In Search of the World's Music, National Geographic, 2003 (ISBN 079224107X). Weird restoration on the NG site, by the way. :D -- Michel Vuijlsteke (talk) 17:43, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Except this now raises an issue with accuracy - see Criterion 6. NatGeo are saying they're listening, the image page description, presumably generated from the LoC notes, are saying they're recording. I've had issues with the accuracy of LoC information before (see the recent Heckler nom below for one example), and would be inclined to believe NatGeo. Is there a way to distinguish whether this is a recording or listening device (and how much does that then verge on OR)? --jjron (talk) 07:25, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I was wrong. But neither LoC nor NatGeo are wrong: Densmore was most probably "recording Mountain Chief", i.e. Mountain Chief was there to be recorded, had been recorded or was about to be recorded (the date of the photo coincides with recordings of Mountain Chief[3]). This picture however is not of a recording: the listening horn is on the device.
This photo, taken in Washington, D.C., reflects the special aims and conditions not of the "oral poetry act" but rather of what might be called the "photography act." For the benefit of the photographer and posterity, Mountain Chief has donned his ceremonial native dress (his own?). At his side are emblems of the vanishing Native American culture that Densmore was doing her best to document. The collector adopts a non-assuming pose, eyes lowered on the machine. Mountain Chief gestures as if declaiming, although any sound that he is uttering at this moment would not be registered, for he is seated before the listening horn of the machine, not the recording horn. [4]
-- Michel Vuijlsteke (talk) 12:18, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • You do realise it's a different picture? Admittedly the device looks to be the same, but accuracy and EV are sliding IMO. And shouldn't captions and image page be changed if it's not a recording? (Not to mention filename, etc). --jjron (talk) 07:49, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's overstating the case a bit. It's a series of pictures taken on the same day. I found at least one picture in the series (this one) where Densmore has her eyes lowered on the machine, but at least one other (the one in the link above) doesn't. Some have Mountain Chief gesturing (cf. link above), some don't (cf. this image). I can't rename the picture, but I've modified the caption. -- Michel Vuijlsteke (talk) 14:07, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not overstating anything. I don't know how you know that these images were taken on the same day - I can see no date associated with the one at [5], certainly the background is completely different, the chair the chief is on is different, and while that image is pretty low res, either his pants are different or he's got something hanging over his knee, and Densmore's hair also looks to be different. Regardless, there seems to be a lot of guessing going on here from all parties. You even accidentally misquoted the image caption from the above link which in fact says "...Mountain Chief has donned ceremonial dress (his own, or someone else's?)..." - so even that caption is guessing at what's going on, and they're unsure whether the ceremonial dress is genuine, i.e., it might not even be his. BTW you can get files renamed I believe, or upload under a new name and request a deletion. --jjron (talk) 06:31, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Urgh. I really should check things before I reply. I was wrong (again), but the sources can be reconciled, and both the proposed caption and the original reason is correct. You can't be a 100% sure, I agree. But then again, you can't be sure of *anything*. Al you can go by is the sources. Here's a couple of different versions of the images I found:
    1. LoC: "Piegan Indian, Mountain Chief, having his voice recorded by ethnologist Frances Densmore", dated "1916" [6] (scanned photographic print) and "Blackfoot Chief, Mountain Chief making phonographic record at Smithsonian, 2/9/1916" [7] (scanned glass negative)
    2. LoC: "Frances Densmore using wax cylinder phonograph to record Mountain Chief, a Blackfoot Indian", dated "1916" [8]. Location is different: stone wall and stairs in background instead of dark cloth screen. Densmore is dressed the same but looks dark-haired, not gray; Mountain Chief is dressed differently.
    3. Niles, Homo Narrans, 1999: "Frances Densmore, collector, with Mountain Chief of the Blackfoot Tribe, 1906. [...] donned ceremonial dress (his own, or someone else's?)" [9]. Dated 1906 in caption. Probably same session but slightly different from (2): same paraphernalia in front of Mountain Chief but Densmore looks up, not down. (Note that the missing "or someone else's" in my quotation above was not an accidental misquote: I didn't feel like retyping everything and copy-pasted from [10])
    4. NatGeo: "This 1916 image of Frances Densmore and Blackfoot leader Mountain Chief listening to a cylinder recording has become a symbol of the early songcatcher era." [11] = retouched version of (1)
    5. Smithsonian: CD cover, "Healing Songs of the American Indian" [12] = cropped version of (2)
    6. Nettl and Bohlman, Comparative Musicology and Anthropology of Music, 1991: "Frances Densmore, ethnomudicologist, with Mountain Chief, a Blackfoot Indian, who is interpreting in sign language a song being played on a phonograph" [13] = version of (3), but dated 1916
    7. Becker, Selling tradition, 1998: "Ethnomusicologist Frances Densmore and Mountain Chief of the Blackfoot tribe listen to a cylinder recording in 1906. [...] This photograph was taken outside the Smithsonian in Washington." [14] = version of (3)
    8. Adolf Hungry-Wolf, The Blackfoot Papers: "Mountain Chief, having some of his songs recorded on wax cylinders [...] during a visit he made to Washington, D.C. around 1915. He has on his intertribal outfit, with Sioux headdress and fringed backskin suit" [15] dated around 1915 = version of (1)
There are more sources on Google Book Search. With a heavy dose of Occam's razor: there were two photo sessions, one in 1906 (at least once misreported as 1916) and one ca. 1916 (sources say 1914, ca. 1915, 1916). Both were staged. The sources seem to agree that Mountain Chief is not in the process of being recorded but rather listening, in both photos. Mountain Chief was however recorded by Frances Densmore: all sources agree that he was. The more recent photo (1) is dated quite precisely "2/9/1916" at the LoC; there is a recording of Mountain Chief dated quite precisely 2/16/1916 [16].
Conclusions? This picture is beyond any reasonable doubt a picture of Frances Densmore and Mountain Chief. According to the sources, the picture was taken in February 1916; Frances Densmore recorded Mountain Chief; recordings of Mountain Chief in February 1916 survive. "Frances Densmore recording Mountain Chief" is a reasonable image name; "Frances Densmore at the Smithsonian Institution in 1916 where she was recording Blackfoot chief Mountain Chief for the Bureau of American Ethnology. In this picture, Mountain Chief is listening to a recording." is a reasonable image caption. -- Michel Vuijlsteke (talk) 19:47, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The conversation about the caption is legitimate, but easily solved by making the caption more vague. I also quoted both captions at the Commons image page. When two very trustworthy sources disagree, might as well just make it vague because Wikipedians can't determine which is right. Otherwise, this is has obvious support. Promoted Image:Frances Densmore recording Mountain Chief2.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 19:57, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

LOL. There's a fine solution for lack of EV - just make the supposed information in captions etc vaguer! :-) --jjron (talk) 06:39, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The photo shows a RECORDING session. If nothing else, the recording attachment (special arm and horn) clearly visible proves it. The tonearm and horn for listening on this type of machine look very different. We can even determine the exact moment of the photo shoot: Densmore has just started the machine and is lowering the recorder onto the blank wax - during actual recording OR playback her hand would have not been touching the tonearm! - and Mountain Chief is visibly concentrating, ready to launch his song or speech as soon as she gives the sign that the phonograph is running.

Here's a period illustration (from the original user's manual of the Edison machine) showing the _recording_ arm and horn: https://www.technogallerie.com/wp-content/uploads/1a-23.jpg

and here's a photo of Densmore's machine set up for playback. Note how the much larger playback horn sits on top of the back bracket, and there is an angled tonearm with the reproducer hanging vertically over the cylinder, while the recorder is placed at an oblique angle with the horn directly protruding from it. https://scontent.flej1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/307684032_1148534619202358_3479030545063488219_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=ntMGnpdaDr8AX8VQ7EH&_nc_oc=AQknQRQNgEshUbqauJN95IgPwkl8yZq0n_2Zb4tZZKNG9DEYrF4xRp6xucMehMRFYLQ&_nc_ht=scontent.flej1-1.fna&oh=00_AT9GcCAdPiPjj3aGjC36HYm1pn6PkI0xMCSdodUGy4Za-A&oe=6332B7A7

One obvious nonsense in the Smithsonian description is of course that he "interprets a song in Plains Indian sign language". One could record SIGN LANGUAGE on a movie camera I suppose, but we have an AUDIO recording session here so he must be reciting or singing. At any rate, "interpreting" is clearly not used in the sense of "translating" or "explaining", but means "performing" (like a pianist "interprets" a Chopin piece by playing it, and an actor "interprets" a role by speaking the words. 91.65.175.94 (talk) 15:17, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Image of Dresden, Germany during the 1890s before World War II damage.
Reason
The German Wikimedia chapter made an announcement yesterday that the University of Dresden library has agreed to release 250,000 images from its collection directly to Wikimedia Commons. This restoration is a way of saying thank you: a high resolution view of the city before very extensive damage during World War II. Here's hoping it passes the exacting standards of FPC. Restored version of Image:Dresden photochrom.jpg.
Articles this image appears in
Bombing of Dresden in World War II, Dresden
Creator
Detroit Publishing Co.

Promoted Image:Dresden photochrom2.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 20:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - 360-degree panorama of Toronto, Canada, as seen from the CN Tower, altitude 447 m (1,465 ft).
Reason
High-quality panorama.
Articles this image appears in
Toronto
Creator
Sunshine87

Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 20:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



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Original - Hilarious smiley
Reason
Um, it's just hilarious.
Articles this imas in
User:Majorly etc
Creator
I don't think sockpuppets are eligible for voting... --ZooFari, today's top vandal. (talk) 04:23, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
We can't add sillyness into articles. This is just a fun clip art used for User pages and other non-article stuff. If icons were elegible though, half of the ones in Commons would be FP. --ZooFari, today's top vandal. (talk) 04:18, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This guy's got yellow fever. I will support a healthy version --Muhammad(talk) 04:59, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Refreshingly strong support Let's not be quite so serious here guys. It's a fun image and also there's bound to some articles on smileys, cyber culture, memes etc. to which it could contribute.

April Fools! Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 02:13, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It would have been funnier if you closed as promote. :) –Juliancolton | Talk 02:18, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Original - A piece of crushed gum. Note the hard coating and soft interior. Place your nose close enough to your computer screen and you will smell its minty freshness
Edit 1 - Removed dust and scratches, removed grain from background. Selective sharpening.
Edit 2 - Downsampled to 10x6 to improve sharpness, (then upsampled again as was too small to be visible)
Alt 1
Reason
Ultra high quality, really tasty, the composition bests the like of Ansel Adams
Articles this image appears in
Chewing Gum
Creator
Noodle snacks
It's Kermit does Kansas. Mfield (Oi!) 02:48, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Comment. Needs size reference. I also suggest inverting, or possibly uploading the back of this photograph. Spikebrennan (talk) 12:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can't support if it lacks Miss Piggy. Can anybody identify her? ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 03:01, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
She's there alright, it's a positional (and thus compositional) thing. Maybe it could be reshot from a different angle at which point we could delist and replace. Mfield (Oi!) 03:04, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Nice B&W restoration. Think you may have got a bit carried away with the clone tool though. Mfield (Oi!) 04:50, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

April Fools! Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 02:12, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Woodrow Wilson, arguably our most boring president EVA!
Reason
The economy's hurting everyone and featuring this image will allow us to remember when it was worth something.
Articles this image appears in
give it time
Creator
Woodrow Wilson's parents (bow-chicka-wow-wow!)

April Fools! Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 02:12, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Man and woman riveting team working on the cockpit shell of a C-47 transport at the plant of North American Aviation. Office of War Information photo by Alfred T. Palmer, 1942.
Reason
Riveting team working on the cockpit shell of a C-47 transport at the plant of North American Aviation, Inc., Inglewood, California. Office of War Information photo (1942) by Alfred T. Palmer. Encyclopedic and arresting.
Articles this image appears in
Rivet (to ilustrate process needing two people), Rosie the Riveter (as an accent image for the "unequal pay" line), United States Office of War Information, United States home front during World War II
Creator
Alfred T. Palmer, photographer.

Not promoted MER-C 01:50, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A male hoverfly of the Eupeodes corollae species. Male hoverflies are easily recognized by the holoptic eyes, touching at the top of the head. This species is very common in Europe, where it has been used experimentally to control the population of aphids. Though adults are vegetarian, feeding on pollen, larvae feed on aphids.
Reason
high quality depiction of a common species showing characteristic feature of males
Articles this image appears in
Eupeodes corollae, Eupeodes
Creator
Alvesgaspar (talk)

Promoted File:Hoverfly January 2008-6.jpg MER-C 01:50, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Feijoa sellowiana Flower in Tasmania, Australia
Edit - Also completely not blown, but did some highlight reduction in some areas
Reason
Clear, detailed, sharp, isolated subject
Articles this image appears in
Feijoa
Creator
Noodle snacks

Promoted File:Feijoa sellowiana edit.jpg MER-C 01:50, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Pig's Ear Flower (Cotyledon orbiculata)
Reason
High quality image of a fairly small flower.
Articles this image appears in
Cotyledon orbiculata, Crassulaceae, Cotyledon (plant)
Creator
Noodle snacks

Promoted File:Cotyledon orbiculata 3.jpg MER-C 01:50, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A view over Little trout bay, Lake Superior, Ontario
Reason
I think it's a beautiful image, meeting the criteria
Articles this image appears in
Little trout bay
Creator
Chzz


Not promoted MER-C 01:50, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Araucaria seeds
Reason
It is a good image of araucaria seeds, and I noticed none were present at the Araucaria page. Also, the image quality is good and eye-catching, IMO.
Articles this image appears in
Araucaria
Creator
rodrigomorante

Not promoted MER-C 01:51, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original - Hagia Irene in Istanbul (late 19th century)
Reason
High resolution encyclopedic picture of the first Christian church built in Constantinople. More recent pictures have more trees and, erm, stuff around the church and don't give as clear a view of the building.
Articles this image appears in
Constantine I and Christianity, Hagia Eirene
Creator
Sébah & Joaillier, photographers. Restored by Michel Vuijlsteke.

Not promoted MER-C 01:51, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A 4mm long Stichopogon sp, Robber fly. Pictured in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania
Edit alt Highlights recovered and exposure decreased. Edit of File:Asilidae Stichopogon sp2.jpg
Reason
Good quality, composition and EV. The fly was only 4mm long.
Articles this image appears in
Asilidae, Stichopogon, Dasypogoninae
Creator
Muhammad

No consensus. Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 02:51, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Jelly Bean Plant (Sedum rubrotinctum)
Reason
Has enc for both the species and houseplants. This species reproduces by dropping jellybean's which form clones, which is quite interesting.
Articles this image appears in
Sedum rubrotinctum, Houseplant
Creator
Noodle snacks

Promoted Image:Sedum rubrotinctum.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 18:10, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Karnak, as it appeared in 1838. From a tinted lithograph by Louis Hahge, 1806-1885. Restored from File:Karnacs.jpg.
Reason
Wikipedia ought to feature dozens of scenes from ancient Egypt. Not everything important is available in high resolution format yet; here we have a start: the ruins at Karnac, as recorded in 1838. Very high resolution file; smaller courtesy copy available at File:Karnacs2 couresy copy.jpg. Unrestored version at File:Karnacs.jpg.
Articles this image appears in
Karnak
Creator
Louis Hahge (1806-1885)

Promoted Image:Karnacs2.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 18:21, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Worker at a carbon black plant in Sunray, Texas, United States
Reason
Iconic image, and if it isn't it should be. A worker in a carbon black plant in Sunray, Texas (dated 1942).
Articles this image appears in
Carbon (illustrating "precautions", which talks about working in/with carbon black), Sunray, Texas, Carbon black, John Vachon
Creator
John Vachon
  • Agree with you, Makeemlighter, this has artistic value but it's not illustrating the articles. The picture hints at possibly harsh working conditions and long-term damage, but that isn't the subject of the articles it is in. Maedin\talk 17:46, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No consensus MER-C 07:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



File:Vote number 1b.jpg
Original - Political poster for the November 1932 Reichstag election. "Das Volk wählt Liste 1 Nationalsozialisten Reichstagswahl." Translation: "The people are voting for list 1, the Nazis, at the Reischstag election."
Reason
Possibly the most offensive featured content candidate we could run, but highly encyclopedic. Restored version of File:Vote number 1.jpg. Uploaded locally (where admins tend to be draconian about deleting images that aren't used in article space); will supply a smaller courtesy version upon request.
Articles this image appears in
Nazi Party, Early timeline of Nazism, Adolf Hitler's rise to power
Creator
Rehse-Archiv für Zeitgeschichte und Publizistik
There is a Nazi symbol - the digit 1 is standing on top of a swastika. File:Nazi Swastika.svgVanderdeckenξφ 15:20, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's there, but it could be used much more distastefully. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 04:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just because an image is offensive to you personally doesn't make it any less historically important or of any lower quality. We cannot let personal feelings inform our opinions on whether this is a significant, quality image - The Talking Sock talk contribs 22:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wadester doesn't seem to be calling it personally offensive, or opposing it. Fwiw what bothers me more than many other Nazi images is that it actually is a technically meritorious example of graphic design. It puts a public face on a repulsive bit of history and almost makes it palatable. The Nazis were media-savvy (they had to be good at something in order to rise to power), and this is an example of why not to place uncritical trust a well-packaged media appeal. DurovaCharge! 04:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Some possible shortcomings of the original file. The circles might make it a little hard to see the white stripes; if so look at the indicated areas in the original.
Actually, upon a closer look I decided to hold my support for the moment. The top of the "1" and the a few parts of the swastika have some pretty annoying white stripes (see image to the left). Are they the result of the restoration process? If so, I think it would be better if they were removed. Diego_pmc Talk 22:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No white stripes were visible on my monitor at 100% resolution. What resolution did you see stripes? And what orientation did the stripes have? The original artwork did have some uneven patches in black on the number, most of which appeared to have been segments where black ink had been applied slightly unevenly. If that isn't what you're referring to (and it doesn't seem to be) then I'm a little confused; maybe it's a monitor issue? DurovaCharge! 22:54, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My resolution is 1280x1024. I don't know if they are more obvious because of my monitor, but I can see them quite clearly. But they're surely from the image, they're not the type of things that could result from a misconfiguration of the monitor. They're more like patches of color that are wither than the rest of the color around them, not stripes. It's most visible in the lower corner of the arm of the swastika from center of the image (the one closest to the viewer). Diego_pmc Talk 23:04, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean less black? That might be the uneven ink distribution. I'll get to work on that. :) DurovaCharge! 23:54, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
They do appear to be in the original, if not so obvious - they appear to be small wrinkles in the paper combined with some printing artefacts. I'm kind of neutral about this restoration, though: I'd kind of prefer a little more of the original's lightly-aged paper tone, rather than pure white. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 07:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Suspended pending this. MER-C 08:09, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Great EV. — neuro(talk)(review) 04:13, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose adds little to the articles it's present in in terms of illuminating the text, "list 1" mentioned in the caption isn't mentioned anywhere in any of the articles and the the large "1" is the main focus of the poster's design. Guest9999 (talk) 20:18, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • List 1 refers to the placement of the party's candidates on a ballot. Ballot format itself is rarely important enough to discuss in article text, unless it's the Palm Beach County, Florida butterfly ballot of the 2000 elections. What this image demonstrates is part of how the Nazis gained power: by presenting a simple mnemonic in a visually compelling manner to make it as easy as possible for voters to remember and support them. DurovaCharge! 20:34, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • That does not appear to be discussed in the articles either, if it was and this poster was shown to be a good example of the phenomenon I would probably support. Sorry for the list 1 confusion I think I misread "at" as "and". Guest9999 (talk) 21:58, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • Well, it verges on OR to express that much. With most campaign posters relevance is implied in an article that discusses an election or a political career (two posters from the US presidential election of 1864 are recent examples). At Adolf Hitler's rise to power this replaced a fair use image that had been stable at the article for some time. DurovaCharge! 22:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Very interesting, small issues as seen above, but overall positive Kennedy (talk) 09:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Have uploaded proposed changes over the existing file. Although it's possible to go even farther, there's a line to be drawn between restoring old graphic art and improving upon the original. It really wouldn't be right to make Nazi propaganda look better than it actually was. DurovaCharge! 22:18, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Unsuspended. Returning to nomination list for a quick check that nothing went wrong. :) MER-C 02:25, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Vote number 1b.jpg MER-C 07:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original (.png) - Enzymes, their cellular location, substrates and products in human steroidogenesis, including synthesis of testosterone, estrogen, progesterone and cortisol.
Reason
Large, lots of important information, useful in multiple important articles. The colors make it look less boring than depictions in black-and-white, if not to say even beautiful.
Articles this image appears in
svg-version - borders added to boxes were missing and expanded explanation added to description pages.
Creator
User:Slashme and User:Mikael Häggström
MediaWiki renders svg-images imperfectly, requiring them to first be converted to a raster format to avoid ugly flaws. Because this version looks better in Wikipedia, I nominated it. Perhaps both versions should be nominated, but I'm not sure that's allowed. Mikael Häggström (talk) 16:50, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure I am qualified to vote for the image, so I abstain. --Muhammad(talk) 18:01, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - For now. Being in so many articles it is certainly useful, but I'm not able to assess if it deserves FP status. For example, the meaning of the labels is not clear. In the box, it refers to cellular location, but in the figure it appears to indicate some kind of transformation (green) or enzime (red). The type of the colored areas (some of them with a border line, other without) isn't clear either. Let's wait for further opinions and enlightment -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 17:46, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Enzymes have both a cellular localization (e.g. mitochindria or endoplasmic reticulum) as well as a function. I'm not sure, however, that it needs to be specifically stated. As to borders, there is no strict border between e.g. glucocorticoids (green area) and mineralocorticoids (purple area), since they partly overlap. Mikael Häggström (talk) 18:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - on comparison of the two versions I don't see any encyclopaedic inaccuracies in the SVG render, only a couple of sub-10px-difference text aligment issues. When we actually have a very good SVG already uploaded, not having to find someone to create one, I can't support the PNG. If the SVG was nominated, you'd have my support, as all other criteria are completely satisfied. —Vanderdeckenξφ 19:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I added the svg version. The small changes made to it can be made to the next png-derivative later, when we now there are no more changes to be made for now. Mikael Häggström (talk) 10:00, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Since the addition of the SVG version and a few corrections to it, I change my vote to Support SVG. —Vanderdeckenξφ 15:45, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as original contributor: I created the black-and-white diagram, and I feel that it's greatly improved by the addition of colour: not only does it make the diagram clearer, but it illustrates the overlap between the functions of the illustrated steroids. I'd also like to note that this is a great example of the multiple-authorship model of Wikipedia! --Slashme (talk) 18:08, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Good point! I made a little gallery on the image page, giving a brief flashback of the evolution of the image. Mikael Häggström (talk) 20:13, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Very nice and hugely useful. Another good svg. |→ Spaully 23:57, 31 March 2009 (GMT)
  • Nice. I suggest to rotate the enzyme names 180 degrees so they read in the same orientation as the "Androgens (19 corbons)" and "Estrogens (21 carbons)" labels at the left. Less strain people's necks :-) . --İnfoCan (talk) 13:58, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for noticing it! I corrected it, but I found it was better to turn the "Androgens" and "Estrogens" instead, avoiding having to read from bottom to top. Mikael Häggström (talk) 15:55, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Promoted File:Steroidogenesis.svg MER-C 07:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original - A Boeing Chinook of the RAF taking off during a cadet training exercise at a school in Birmingham
Reason
This image was taken during a cadet training exercise at a school in Birmingham. I think it is compositionally very unique and pleasing: the featureless expanse of grass counterpoints the helicopter quite dramatically, and the line of trees draws the eye upwards. The bright sky outlines the helicopter well and also makes visible the dirt and grass blown out by the downdraft. On a more practical note, I notice that the Wikipedia page on the Boeing Chinook (which is the the RAF version as opposed to the American CH-47 version) lacks any other similar image or indeed any other image in which the whole aircraft including rotors is composed.
Articles this image appears in
Boeing Chinook (UK variants)
Creator
Azonixmaestro
  • Support as nominator --Azonixmaestro (talk) 23:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. It is a nicely composed image, however it falls on a few points: There are flecks that are either dirt from some form of scan or debris from the wash; the darkness of the image and low light conditions mean it is not very informative about the subject; the low light also means at full size it is fairly unfocussed and noisy. Together these negatives make this an oppose vote, although I do like the photo, sorry. |→ Spaully 23:51, 31 March 2009 (GMT)
  • Oppose Really bad lighting. Makeemlighter (talk) 02:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The contrast is bad, but good photo for creativity. ZooFari 04:00, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Azonixmaestro I think "really bad" is a little abrupt. Surely that's a matter of opinion? Also those flecks are indeed from the downdraft; no dodgy scanning involved. It could perhaps be said that they enhance the picture by illustrating the downdraft. Plus with a correctly calibrated monitor, detail can be resolved along pretty much the whole of the left flank so it's not a complete contrejour.
  • Oppose I really like many aspects of this photo; it's well framed and the helicopter looks great against the sky. That said, it falls down technically for a number of reasons. Whilst detail can be resolved along its side, it's incredibly noisy there, and being the subject of the photo that's really not great. The photo is at a wide angle too, which means that the trees (and the street lights on the Bristol Road) are not perpendicular to the ground. Both of these aspects detract from the Enc. Value of the photo, which is of great importance to an FPC. At least it settles an argument, I was giving a tutorial to some first year students 300 metres away at the time, a few foolishly claiming that it was landing at The Guild. bad_germ 09:47, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Didn't check the edit history to see if it was removed, but right now this isn't in any articles. Makeemlighter (talk) 17:31, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 07:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Idi Amin, ruler of Uganda from 1971 to 1979. Caricature by Edmund S. Valtman.
Reason
Edmund S. Valtman was a Pulitzer Prize winning political cartoonist who donated a portion of his work to the public domain. This example is a caricature of Idi Amin, Ugandan military dictator and the president of Uganda from 1971 to 1979. Restored version of File:Idi Amin caricature.jpg. Scanned from original artist's sketch; pencil lines made by the artist before inking have been retained (most visible at chin and shoulders).
Articles this image appears in
Edmund S. Valtman, Idi Amin
Creator
Edmund S. Valtman
We use a pale blue background for non-mainspace pages, in Photoshop it's surrounded by grey and I think Commons is white. The perception of color is dependent on the surrounding colors. MER-C 02:30, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to try another edit if you can achieve a better balance. The uncompressed TIFF file is linked from the image hosting page. DurovaCharge! 17:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Idi Amin caricature2.jpg MER-C 07:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Jaakobou cleanup - Albert Einstein
Cropped - Albert Einstein
Reason
High-quality portraiture of Albert Einstein, a well known historical figure. Image is a rare portrait shot of Einstein at the old age of 68.
Articles this image appears in
Albert Einstein
Creator
Photograph by Oren Jack Turner, Princeton, N.J (File:Albert Einstein 1947.jpg)).
Original image cleaned/leveled by User:Jaakobou.

Not promoted MER-C 07:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Anwar Sadat and Menachem Begin at the Camp David Accords, 18 September 1978.
Cropped - Anwar Sadat and Menachem Begin at the Camp David Accords, 18 September 1978.
Reason
Historically valuable and in good quality. Restored version of File:Sadat and Begin.jpg. Egypt was the first Arab country to recognize Israel, and this is the photo of the leaders of both countries when they finalized the agreement that made peace between them.
Articles this image appears in
Anwar El Sadat, Menachem Begin, Camp David Accords, Presidency of Jimmy Carter
Creator
Leffler, Warren K. , image restoration work by User:Jaakobou



Not promoted MER-C 07:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Alternative. Collage of all four sides
South Face
East Face
North Face
West Face
Alt Edit 1 by jjron. Collage of all four sides without text and selective levels & shadows adjustment; article caption and image page description improved
Reason
My first 'image set' nomination. I've always been fairly happy with these images. Image quality and resolution is very good, allowing you to see all 169 historical composers, architects, poets, painters, and sculptors, probably in greater detail than can be seen by the naked eye, as a fence stops the public from getting too close. The set also shows all four sides of the frieze - something that (by the laws of physics) a single photo cannot. I am open to the idea of combining each of them into a single image, but that might require text within the image to annotate the set properly. An idea, anyway, if 4 separate images isn't to taste. For the record, yes I know the lighting isn't consistent for all four images, but that is to be expected when the sun isn't directly overhead. I've tried to take the same shots on an overcast day but found the relief looked a bit flat as a result.
Articles this image appears in
Frieze of Parnassus
Creator
User:Diliff
  • Support as nominator --Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 11:35, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Before I automatically oppose a 'featured set' (yes, please combine into one image), can you comment on whether these have perspective distortion caused by shooting up, or whether that is the shape of the memorial? If distorted, would you be amenable to correcting for it? Another quibble, but assuming this is a square memorial, shouldn't all images be cropped identically, and thus be identical sizes? There's a fair bit of variation there in both the cropping and sizes. --jjron (talk) 12:05, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Haha, well the reason why I kept them separate is that others may not want all four images (similar to the reason why we prefer to leave diagrams annotated in a particular language), but I suppose we can also have a combined image in addition to the component images. I'll do that tonight. I don't think it is distorted though. If you look at the full monument, you can see the angle that these images were taken from. It was near enough to impossible to get the exact dimensions identical for each image though, given the distance that these images were taken from (30 metres away or so) and the lack of a way to measure the distance accurately. I could downsample them to match more exactly, but I don't think that's really necessary when they're separate files (would be for the combined image, obviously). I don't think there is that much variation in cropping though. I made sure that each image was cropped in the same way, but it is inevitable that there will be slight differences. The fence rails might have been built to inexact tolerances, the grass that I took the image from may have been slightly higher or lower than the equivalent on other sides, etc. All these could contribute to minor variations, but I'd like to think that we're not so picky as to expect a FP photographer to also be a mathematician and surveyor. ;-) Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 14:59, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not sure if there's a reason for the sequence chosen, it looks odd starting with S, though it does match the table in the article - is that some sort of convention or was that a specific design sequence for the monument or something? Also I don't think the text is required (as you suggested above), I'd just use the image page description and/or the image caption, or at most number (or letter) them on the photo itself so as it's more usable across wikis (and why red text anyway?). Despite that, the collage is better - for example if done individually I'd probably say oppose the blown (or close to) sky in the north image, but that can be excused in the collage version IMO. --jjron (talk) 07:17, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • All of the choices you mentioned regarding the collage were arbitrary, really. I just thought that red text contrasted better than black, and given that there is really no particular 'order' for compass directions (other than the oft-used clockwise NESW), I left it as it was in the article. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 08:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support de Bivort 21:13, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Alt Edit 1 or other collage versions. I have done an edit removing the text, and with some selective levels and shadow adjustments to try to even out the lighting a bit and bring out a bit more detail in some parts, and adding a far better text description to the image page. I also edited the article to show you how I think this would be better placed, including an improved caption (am happy for you to revert once you've had a look). If you want to edit back off the originals and replace my version would support that too. However oppose the featured set for reasons given above, and also because it only appears in a gallery in the article. --jjron (talk) 07:12, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral It would have looked a lot better if the weather was overcast and the lighting was even on all four faces. Noodle snacks (talk) 12:18, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • As the nominator commented in the original reason "I've tried to take the same shots on an overcast day but found the relief looked a bit flat as a result". Seems you can't have it all ways. --jjron (talk) 16:23, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I haven't viewed full res due to large size but IMO EV is very good. For the closer, if the nomination does not receive enough supports for promotion, then count this as a support as quality must be good. Prefer alternative, then Alt edit1--Muhammad(talk) 05:52, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support a composite, preferably Alt Edit 1.--ragesoss (talk) 20:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Promoted File:Albert Memorial Friese Collage - May 2008-edit1.jpg MER-C 07:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Close-up view of sunflower, Helianthus annus showing the disc florets. From the center of the flower head, inflorescence of small disc florets emerge in a spiral fashion followed by the larger yellow ray florets- parts of which are seen at the edges of the picture above
Reason
Good quality, DOF, and EV. The image has been in some of the articles for more than 2 months now.
Articles this image appears in
Asteraceae, Sunflower, Inflorescence
Creator
Muhammad

Promoted Image:Sunflower macro wide.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 18:59, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original - An M777 Light Towed Howitzer in service with the 10th Mountain Division in support of Operation Enduring Freedom in Charkh District, Logar Province, Afghanistan.
Reason
I find the quality of this photo superb and I think a picture at such a close range and with such good timing must be unusual.
Articles this image appears in
M777 howitzer
Creator
Jonathanmallard
  • I suggest you do, the current FP has higher encyclopaedic value and better composition. I doubt this would pass in contrast, however you can leave it to process if you wish, it's your decision. —Vanderdeckenξφ 12:12, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Well personally I support it, as quality is decent and EV seems great. It is a different howitzer than the above referenced M198, though admittedly of the same caliber. We don't have a "scope" concept here similar to the the Commons version of Valued Pictures, so it's possible to have more than one FP for similar subjects. The nom'd image is in a separate article as well so I'm not sure it's diluted too much by the existence of the other FP. Fletcher (talk) 00:51, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Sophus Bie (talk) 01:13, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I have a copyright question. This image came from flickr and was licensed there under CC-BY. However, this was changed to PD-USGov-Military-Army. Is this right? There is no evidence that this photo was "made during the course of the person's official duties." The argument goes that I guess any private photos you take while during a tour of duty become PD? Is that correct, or should we revert the copyright tag back to CC-BY?-Andrew c [talk] 13:29, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    I have asked User:Terrillja to comment on this. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:50, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

:::Hi, the question here is was the image taken white the person was on duty. If it was an image of a bunch of soldiers playing football on base, I'd tend to agree that this would belong to the person who took the image. However, this image was taken by a soldier, during deployment, and is of an artillery piece in action, which would indicate to me that they were on duty, and that the image was taken while they were under the employment of the army. Since the image was taken while they were working for the army, the image becomes the property of their employer, similar to how a web designer does not own the copyright to work that they did for a company while they were working for that company. My tagging was based on some other images that I had seen which were also personal flickr images and were imported here: [17] and [18] Apparently the army has an account on flickr too. Go figure. If this was wrong, I will certainly offer my apology. --Terrillja talk 18:24, 23 March 2009 (UTC) per Fletcher below[reply]

I would say the question is more like, was the image taken as part of the person's official duties -- in other words, was the photographer employed by the army to take photographs? In contrast to someone taking a personal photo with their own camera during a tour of duty. The photographer's user page User:Jonathanmallard says he is a medic and the EXIF data indicates it was shot with a Canon Point & Shoot, not a professional SLR like you would expect a military photographer to use, so I tend to think this is a personal photo. I doubt soldiers' personal photos are required to be in the public domain. Fletcher (talk) 22:00, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Perhaps, without further hard evidence, since no one seems to know for sure, we should just defer to the license this user released the image on flickr? I'm not sure which is worse, releasing someones personal photo into the public domain or adding a CC-BY stipulation to an otherwise PD government image (assuming we choose the wrong license here)?-Andrew c [talk] 22:15, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's better to protect someone's rights that might not exist than to deny someone's rights that might really exist. I changed it back to the CC license. Maybe Jonathan can clarify it for us. Fletcher (talk) 01:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

*Note Someone should also check out this one, since it was taken by the same person and tagged pd-usgov-army by another user on commons. Perhaps this needs to be clarified somewhere what official duties entails. Does an image taken while on patrol count as "on duty" if you are not an army photographer? I mean you aren't employed as a photographer, but you are working on taxpayer time, so what is the deal there?--Terrillja talk 02:22, 24 March 2009 (UTC) per Fletcher below[reply]

This would seem to be the answer:

A "work of the United States Government," referred to in this document as a U.S. Government work, is a work prepared by an officer or employee of the United States Government as part of that person's official duties. (See 17 USC § 101, Definitions.56) [...]

An officer's or employee's official duties are the duties assigned to the individual as a result of employment. Generally, official duties would be described in a position description and include other incidental duties. Official duties do not include work done at a government officer's or employee's own volition, even if the subject matter is government work, so long as the work was not required as part of the individual's official duty. (S.REP. NO. 473, 94th Cong., 2d Sess. 56-57) (1976) "A government official or employee should not be prevented from securing copyright in a work written at his own volition and outside his duties, even though the subject matter involves his government work or his professional field.") For further discussion, see Tresansky, John O. Copyright in Government Employee Authored Works. 57 30 Cath. L. Rev. 605 (1981).

So if his official duties as a medic do not include taking pictures of howitzers then the copyright still belongs to him. If he is taking pictures on taxpayer time that is a discipline issue, not a copyright issue. But I don't think we can assume even that much; maybe he is doing it on whatever free time he is given. And it's not like snapping a pic with a point and shoot is a big waste of time anyway. I could see your point if he was doing a long exposure on a view camera trying to be Ansel Adams of Afghanistan while someone is bleeding out on a gurney in the clinic, but I don't think that's what's happening here! :-) Fletcher (talk) 03:05, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Some more input would be nice now that the copyright issue has been resolved by the copyright holder. I'll also point out that the user's Flickr gallery is quite fascinating. Check it out if you have some time (personal opinion, of course). Best of luck to our soldier overseas. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 05:43, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. I don't know if the creator is still watching, but I don't quite get the dimensions on this image. It looks odd at this size when there's no apparent reason for the crop of the height (this camera takes fullsize images at 3648×2736) - in fact if there was more height then the smoke wouldn't have to be cutoff at the top. I'd like to hear an explanation, but the awkward looking crop along with other reasons given above, inclines me towards opposing. --jjron (talk) 14:25, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support Outstanding image. Opposing on the grounds that we already have an existing FP of a different towed artillery piece is like opposing the next high quality image of an insect on the grounds that we already have a FP of a bug. --Leivick (talk) 03:30, 6 April 2009

Promoted Image:M777 Light Towed Howitzer 1.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 02:03, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Original (fixed) - Creeping Jacob's Ladder (Polemonium reptans) is a wildflower native to the eastern United States and Canada.
Reason
Good lighting, decent DOF, very high res, sharp, good EV, and really pretty :)
Articles this image appears in
Polemonium reptans
Creator
Kaldari

Which version? MER-C 07:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Image:Polemonium reptans 2009.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 02:02, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Once ..
Reason
High EV
Articles this image appears in
[20]
Creator
the creator of the image, where possible using the format wikiuser

Not promoted check the date MER-C 12:44, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Barnum & Bailey Circus advertisement from 1900.
Reason
A serious nomination to fit the date. Restored version of File:Barnum & Bailey clowns and geese.jpg.
Articles this image appears in
Circus clown, Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus, Clown
Creator
Strobridge Litho. Co.

Promoted Image:Barnum & Bailey clowns and geese2.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 18:34, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Original - Smoke pours from the #2 turret aboard the battleship USS Iowa (BB-61) following an internal explosion near Puerto Rico.
Edit 1
Reason
This year marks the 20th anniversary of this US Navy incident, and I still think this image has what it takes to be featured. Previous attempts have suffered from one or two technical issues and insufficient support for consensus, but I hope that third time will be lucky. I would like to have this image featured in time for the 20th anniversary of the incident, although that desire is second to ensuring that FPC criteria are upheld.
Articles this image appears in
April 19, USS Iowa (BB-61), Live fire exercise, USS Iowa turret explosion, Fred Moosally, A Glimpse of Hell (book)
Creator
LT. Thomas Jarrell

Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 18:35, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original - An F-15C is met by maintenance personnel at Aviano Air Base during Operation Deny Flight.
Edit 1. Crop to remove some of the grass. Remove noise and enhance color with iPhoto
Reason
I've never nominated a FP before, but I think that this is just a stunning image, particularly the rather ominous clouds in the background. In my opinion, it has excellent symbolism within the context of Operation Deny Flight and the Bosnian War. The raw power of the F-15C, but also the dark clouds gathering in the background. The picture was taken in 1993, just when it seemed like NATO airpower would make a big difference, but the optimists ignored the dark clouds in the background, which eventually led to Srebenica and the like.
Articles this image appears in
Operation Deny Flight, 36th Wing
Creator
Sergeant Jane Schroeder, USAF

Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 03:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - An hoverfly (Xanthogramma pedissequum) in flight. Hoverflies form a large family of about 5000 species with hovering and darting flight. Most are nectar or pollen feeders and many mimic the color patterns of wasps and bees.
Reason
An uncommon and enc view of an hoverfly in flight, hovering above the ground. Though not technically excellent, I believe it illustrates the subject better than existing FP's, including Fir's marvellous airborne sex photo.
Articles this image appears in
Insect flight
Creator
Alvesgaspar (talk)

Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 03:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Lighting through the ages. Antiquity: 1. Prehistory. - 2-3. Egyptian - 4-5. Assyrian. 6-13. Roman. - 14-15. Carthaginian. - 16-17. Merovingian period. - Middle age and modern times: 19-20. 11th century. - 21. 12th century. - 22. 13th century. - 23-24. 14th century. - 25-26-27. 15th century. - 28. 16th century. - 29. 17th century. - 30-31. 18th century. - Contemporary period: 32. (original) Argand lamp. - 33-34. (Antoine Quinquet's improved) Argand lamp. - 35. Stephenson (Geordie) lamp (mines). - 36. Street light. - 37. Davy lamp. - 38. Air-fed wick lamp (theatre). - 39. Railway lamp. - 40. Carcel lamp. - 41. Gasifier. - 42. Auer (gas) lamp with gas mantle. - 43. Gas street lighting (regular burner). - 44. Gas street lighting (high intensity burner). - 45. Auer (petrol) lamp. - 46. (Air-fed) petrol lamp. - 47. Incandescent (electricity). - 48. Lighthouse (electricity). - 49. Mine lamp (electricity). - 50. Incandescent (electricity) [street light]. - 51. Arcl light (electricity). - 52. Acetylene lamp (burner). - 53. Acetylene lamp (bycicle). - 54. Acetylene lamp (lamp). - Japan: 55. Street light. - 56. Transportation (rickshaw). - 57. Lantern for funerals. - 58. Portable lantern.
Reason
Eclairage, plate by Maurice Dessertenne for volume IV (E-G) of the Nouveau Larousse illustré (France, 1898-1907). Is there's anyone here who didn't spend countless hours pouring over illustrations like this in encyclopedias when they were young? And who still does?
Illustrates high-quality custom-made engravings for encyclopedias, and of course the various means of making light through the ages (prehistory - ca. 1900).
The way everything is slotted into "Antiquity", "Middle age and modern times", "Contemporary period" and, weirdly, "Japan", just adds to the charm, I feel.
Articles this image appears in
Encyclopedia, Maurice Dessertenne
Creator
Engraving by Maurice Dessertenne; scanned and restored by Michel Vuijlsteke

Promoted File:Eclairage.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 22:24, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original - The Dry Tortugas Light, on Loggerhead Key in the Florida Keys, was constructed between 1856 and 1858 to replace the Garden Key Light as the major seacoast light for the Dry Tortugas. The tower walls are six feet thick at the base, tapering to four feet thick at the top, and the light is shown 157 ft above the water; a radio room is attached to the base. The lighthouse was automated in 1988. Its beacon can be seen to 28 miles at sea.
Reason
Excellent, high-resolution view not only of the original light tower, but of the station outbuildings as well, providing a nice idea of the station layout. It also shows the effect weathering has had on the structure.
Articles this image appears in
Dry Tortugas Light
Creator
United States Coast Guard, Petty Officer 2nd Class Jennifer Johnson; uploaded by DanMS

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Artifacted => not promoted MER-C 04:04, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Relisted for further consideration, and/or editing to deal with the problems pointed out. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 11:11, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The behaviour of "do the original votes count yes-no-yes-no" has ruined any chance of this having a fair run anymore in this page. Hence, per talk page, provisionally promoting per original votes, but listing as a delist nom. Promoted Image:Dry Tortugas Lighthouse 2005.jp --Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 15:51, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please play fair. wadester16 | Talk→ 16:53, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original - Shear warp volumetric render of a mouse skull; 360-degree view.
Reason
This image is an outstanding example of shear warp volume rendering. I was certain that it would be featured when I clicked on the image, but no such tag came up. The image is very informative and it displays the mouse skull in a clear and intuitive fashion.
Articles this image appears in
Volume rendering, Skull (just added by Wadester16)
Creator
User:Lackas

Promoted Image:VolRenderShearWarp.gif ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 14:11, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - David Henry Friston's illustration of the climax of Act III of The Wicked World, just before mortal love leaves fairyland forever. From The Illustrated London News of February 8, 1873.
Reason
Of high artistic merit, and highly encyclopedic for Gilbert, the play, and the history of a theatre that largely came to be a success because of Gilbert's plays.
Articles this image appears in
Haymarket Theatre, W. S. Gilbert, The Wicked World
Creator
David Henry Friston

More reviews, please. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 04:16, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Image:Wicked World - Illustrated London News, Feb 8 1873.PNG ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 18:37, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Design for a Republican costume by Jacques-Louis David. Hand-coloured engraving by Denon (1794)
Not for voting - unrestored original for comparison
Reason
Encyclopedic engraving by Denon of a drawing by David for a costume for peoples' reprensentatives.
Minimal restoration: stains and dust removed, cropped/rotated, contrast enhanced. Chose to keep paper grain, not to bleach paper to white and not to remove all traces of darkening towards the edges.
Articles this image appears in
Jacques-Louis David, Dominique Vivant
Creator
drawing: Jacques-Louis David; engraving: Dominique Vivant, Baron de Denon / restored by Michel Vuijlsteke
Thanks! That's all the problems sorted =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 09:42, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More reviews, please. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 04:16, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Promoted File:Le représentant du peuple François en fonction2.jpg MER-C 12:40, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Traumatic insemination, seen here in the bedbug Cimex lectularius, is the insertion of sperm into the female by breaking through the carapace of the abdomen and injecting the sperm inside. This makes the male's reproduction more efficient; however, the threat of infection and necessity of healing decreases the female's life expectancy. Traumatic insemination is also found in some other invertebrate species, including some nematodes, flies, and leaf bugs.
Edit1 Gaussian blur on background to reduce artifacts
Reason
A stunning illustration: You can see the carapace cracking.
Articles this image appears in
Traumatic insemination, bedbug
Creator
Rickard Ignell of Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences
Note
Please notify Raul654 of the result of this, as uploader.

Which do you prefer? Original or edit? ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 22:23, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Promoted File:Traumatic insemination 1 edit1.jpg MER-C 12:41, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original - George Atzerodt, one of the conspirators hanged for the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, 1865.
Reason
One of the conspirators in the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. Restored version of File:George Atzerodt.jpg
Articles this image appears in
George Atzerodt
Creator
Alexander Gardner

Promoted File:George Atzerodt2.jpg MER-C 12:41, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Sky lanterns deployed en masse during the Loy Krathong festival in northern Thailand.
Reason
Although a little busy as a thumbnail, the larger version is captivating. It adds to the article because it's the only image in the article that shows the visual effect of a mass deployment of sky lanterns during a festival. the other images are of single lanterns. There is a blurry gentleman in the foreground but i think it enhances the image by providing some perspective. the lanterns themselves are in focus and the lighting is good for such a scene. note:There is an alternative version of this without the left side cropped off. I think the crop is tasteful, but if the other version is preferable, I'd be happy with either.
uncropped version
higher resolution version
File:LK loy krathong yi peng san sai HR2 Edit.jpg
Edit Aggressive NR on the high res version
Articles this image appears in
Sky lantern
Creator
Takeaway
I contacted the uploader and he provided a higher resolution version. His comments on it: "The photo is a bit grainy as the Nikon D80 doesn't really perform very well in dark situations when using settings above 800 ISO. The smoke of all the lanterns going up in the air also contributes to what might look like grain." - Lambajan 14:53, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, had a look at the bigger version and a quick play to see what I could do, but sadly the quality is just not there for mine, just too noisy; looks like the camera can't really handle the ISO 1250. Doubt my camera wouldn't do any better I must say. Maybe worth a try at VPC? --jjron (talk) 16:36, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A fairly aggressive noise reduction and a black point adjustment worked pretty well imo, there isn't much fine detail to loose. Unfortunately cameras are at their weakest with dark areas and high isos though.

Not promoted MER-C 12:41, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A Mediterranean house gecko taking a diurnal bask in the morning sun. Though nocturnal, they usually bask a few moments to warm up before going to sleep.
Reason
Best med house gecko quality available, shows morning basking techniques (despite being nocturnal)
Articles this image appears in
Mediterranean house gecko, House gecko
Creator
ZooFari

Not promoted MER-C 12:41, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Christmas Lillium (Lilium longiflorum). 1. Stigma, 2. Style, 3. Stamens, 4. Filament, 5. Petal
Edit 1 by Fir0002 - reduced shadow noise
Reason
A useful photographic illustration of many flower parts. The numbers allow it to be readable at thumbnail size.
Articles this image appears in
Lilium, Flower
Creator
Noodle snacks

Promoted File:Lillium Stamens.jpg MER-C 12:42, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A female Physiphora alceae feeding on feces in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania
Reason
Good quality and EV. Focus is where required.
Articles this image appears in
Tephritoidea, Picture-winged fly
Creator
Muhammad

Not promoted MER-C 12:42, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Joseph Stalin, Franklin Roosevelt, and Winston Churchill at the Yalta Conference
Reason
The encyclopedic value of this picture can not possibly be understated. It is one of the few images that shows all of the Big 3 together, and nearly every history textbook in existence includes some variant of it. The picture may have some technical imperfections, but it is of high resolution, and it is clear. In any case, the encyclopedic value of it is so high as to more than compensate for any minor deficiencies. There is also a color version of this image (File:Yalta summit 1945 with Churchill, Roosevelt, Stalin.jpg), but it is of much lower resolution.
Articles this image appears in
Yalta Conference
Creator
US Government photographer
  • Support as nominator --Cool3 (talk) 16:04, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I'm conflicted. The color alternative is actually a different shot, but I like it better (aside from the resolution). The interactions are much more significant in the color one, with Churchill looking and Roosevelt facing each other and turned away from Stalin, who looks off to his left. This one is still quite good, and the encyclopedic value is very high of course, but the scratches are distracting. Have you searched the Library of Congress site to see if there are lossless scans from which a restoration would be done?--ragesoss (talk) 20:04, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, the color shot is a bit more significant. As are some other versions of the shot, such as this one, but that picture doesn't appear to be PD, according to the information it comes from the Encyclopedia Britannica archives. The version displayed here is originally from the Department of Defense, and it's the only one in their archives. Obviously, it would be ideal to find a high resolution version of the color one, but I don't think such an image exists (digitally). Personally, though, I think that this shot is better than some of the more formal ones, as it's a "candid" of the three leaders. Cool3 (talk) 21:26, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 12:42, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - The Sandspit River in a cool temperate rainforest area
Reason
The forest is a key habitat of rare and threatened species and sadly is under the control of Forestry Tasmania, with logging being allowed. I'm pretty sure that the area pictured was logged around 100 years ago. There was a settlement nearby at one stage too. I still need to find a decent ref though.
Articles this image appears in
Wielangta forest, Temperate rainforest
Creator
Noodle snacks
  • Support as nominator --Noodle snacks (talk) 00:50, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Little motion blur (I think) in some leaves, but overall a good picture. If only it were safe to move around with equipment in TZ :( --Muhammad(talk) 04:37, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Nice composition. Mfield (Oi!) 04:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Oppose Pretty severe sharpness drop off at the edges (particularly at the bottom) and the HDR (?) has left the treetops with a fair bit of CA --Fir0002 08:28, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • The foreground is about a foot away, and the background is 50-100m, so naturally you can't get everything in focus without cheating with that 17mm tilt/shift lens and a full frame camera or focus stacking. UWAs also have a habit of being a tad soft at the edges at 10mm. Its a two shot exposure blend in photoshop. I adjusted the masks and stuff to treat the bleeding a bit. Thanks to the wind a bit was unavoidable though. Noodle snacks (talk) 09:23, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • Ah I see the problem - image description says it's at 20mm so I assumed you had the ability to zoom out and crop soft edges. I still would have liked the bottom focus-stacked into sharpness...
  • Support -download | sign! 00:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I'm not usually a fan of these sort of vertical landscapes as they tend to look a bit peculiar (massive change in vertical AOV is usually unnecessary) and cramped (not enough width). The photo is pretty good but I can't help but think you could have got a better photo with a slightly more conventional composition taken from a metre or two back (if practical). Also, there is a strange patch of sky in the trees that doesn't match the tone of the rest of the blue sky - it's a bit lighter and greyer. Not sure if that is just the way the HDR turned out or not, but it doesn't look right. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 10:32, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Love it!!! ISmashed TALK! 15:47, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Diliff. Makeemlighter (talk) 01:53, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: Though really it's a weak oppose, if I were one to do that. I don't find the composition attractive, and I can't help being put off by the blurriness of the upper foliage. I'm in agreement with Diliff that this could have been done a little more "traditionally" for a better result. Maedin\talk 08:26, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No consensus. Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 20:37, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A pentatomoid nymph of tribe Halyini
Reason
Good quality and EV. The nymph had just shed its exoskeleton and thus has the pink coloured appearance.
Articles this image appears in
Pentatomidae, Pentatomoidea, Pseudatelus
Creator
Muhammad

No consensus. Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 20:37, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Membership certificate for the service organization B'nai B'rith from 1876. Depicts an orphanage, a menorah, Abraham and Isaac, Moses, domestic scenes, and other topics.
Reason
B'nai B'rith is the oldest Jewish service organization in the world. Nineteenth century membership certificate, tinted lithograph. Restored version of File:B'nai B'rith.jpg. Happy Pesach.
Articles this image appears in
B'nai B'rith
Creator
Louis Kurz

Not promoted MER-C 02:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Galápagos Dove, on Española Island in the Galápagos Islands
Reason
Good quality image of a reasonably rare subject matter.
Articles this image appears in
Galápagos Dove
Creator
The Rambling Man

Not promoted MER-C 02:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Begum Liaquat Ali (first Prime Minister of Pakistan) Meets President of MIT; image shows Ali Khan, Mrs. Killian, Begum Liaquat Ali Khan, James Rhyne Killian (from left to right)
Reason
Valued Picture No techinal issues
Articles this image appears in
Gharara,Begum Ra'ana Liaquat Ali Khan
Creator
US Department of State

The nominator forgot to transclude this nomination. Listing it now. MER-C 12:46, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. Only Begum is framed in the photo, I don't like how it cuts off both men on either side of the group. I imagine there must be a better photo of her somewhere. Due to the lack of colour it isn't a great illustration of Gharara and is poor quality for this purpose. |→ Spaully 12:58, 8 April 2009 (GMT)
  • Reluctant oppose a figure cut off at the shoulder might be okay with enough ev, but another cut off at the head is a bit too much to support. Would love an alternate image of this or a similar subject, if it can be found under free license. DurovaCharge! 01:36, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Unless I'm missing something (which is entirely possible!), this doesn't meet the 1000 pixel minimum. Is this sufficiently historical or unique to be exempt? Not convinced. Maedin\talk 20:43, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Not convinced either. Significantly low res and not notable enough to be exempt. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 18:40, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral Rather blurry image and small size detract from image value. tempodivalse [☎] 13:56, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 02:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Goura scheepmakeri 'Southern Crowned Pigeon'
Reason
Quality?
Articles this image appears in
Southern_Crowned_Pigeon
Creator
Luc Viatour (talk)
Yes I saw it fly ;) --Luc Viatour (talk) 06:00, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Goura scheepmakeri sclaterii 1 Luc Viatour.jpg MER-C 02:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Gaura lindheimeri 'Whirling Butterflies'
Reason
Not missing a petal. Good quality, clear illustration
Articles this image appears in
Gaura lindheimeri
Creator
Noodle snacks

Promoted File:Gaura lindheimeri Whirling Butterflies.jpg MER-C 02:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Rose prickles
Reason
Good illustration for prickles which are technically distinct from both spines and thorns.
Articles this image appears in
Rose, Prickle (currently a stub, it needn't be)
Creator
Noodle snacks

Promoted File:Rose Prickles.jpg MER-C 02:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - The final scene of Shakespeare's The Life and Death of King John, from an 1865 production at the Drury Lane Theatre.
Reason
A very high resolution scan of an A3 engraving. Plus, you know, Shakespeare =) It's a very big, detailed image, and so may not thumbnail at 250px ideally, but it has the quality and detail there.

Anyway, I think this is a great image, and I think it probably meets the desired resolution.

Articles this image appears in
King John. Could probably go into others.
Creator
Let's call it The Illustrated London News: It's otherwise completely uncredited, with no artist mentioned in the description, nor any obvious signature (from past experience, I've learned that they can be surprisingly well hidden sometimes, so I'm not going to say no signature until some other people have looked).
  • Support as nominator --Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 17:21, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Very nice but jesus it's big. The real thing is making my 10MB connection reminiscent of dialup and is too large to be useful to view. The .png gives this "Error creating thumbnail: Invalid thumbnail parameters or image file with more than 12.5 million pixels". I think we really need a smaller version if someone is able to make one satisfactorily.
Support - despite the size issues I like the image, it would be good in other articles also - looking to put in Theatre Royal, Drury Lane - due to its' historical illustration.
Question also- do large images such as this knacker the server in processing thumbnails? |→ Spaully 21:37, 8 April 2009 (GMT)
I've implemented a couple solutions: I lowered the quality slider on the JPEG slightly, shaving off 18 meg, and also uploaded a slightly smaller alternative version (linked from the image description page). This engraving just doesn't compress very well under JPEG, but I've done what I could. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 18:41, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That makes it easier to view, and I see what you mean about compression as there is a slight difference at full zoom. This ties in with the FP size discussion on the talk page, it would be an ideal picture for there to be several size options. Thanks for the consideration. |→ Spaully 14:27, 10 April 2009 (GMT)
I'd love to have an automated viewer added to all such pages for different sizes. It would make things a lot easier. As for the Drury Lane Theatre - I was eyeing that article, but the layout's a bit messy already, and I didn't want to risk making things worse or overruling the regulars by swapping images around. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 15:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Shakespeare's King John at Drury Lane Theatre.jpg MER-C 02:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A collection of hand-painted tiles, dedicated to the victims of the September 11 attacks, on the fence of a car-lot in New York City in 2004.
Reason
This is a bit of a risky nomination for me as the wow-factor is admittedly low and it isn't an oversized panorama ;-). It isn't a large scale, visually-impressive memorial like the Tribute in Light but IMO it documents a wide variety of individuals' and communities' emotional responses to the attacks well and I think it is a photo that does it in a more personal and intimate way. While the individual tiles are undeniably non-NPOV, I don't think this is an issue as the image itself simply documents these views and doesn't attempt to push them on the viewer. I know it looks fairly soft in the thumbnail, but the detail is there at 100%. Also, FYI, this image shows the full extent of the memorial (it extends all the way around the fence), and while I think both images complement each other and are linked to each other on the image pages, I feel this nominated image has the better composition and more intimate feel.
Articles this image appears in
Memorials and services for the September 11 attacks
Creator
User:Diliff
Previous !votes that are no longer valid. Please Re!vote below if you voted before!
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
  • Support POV is not an issue here; this is an image of historical value and it offers a lot of interesting objects to look at. It's technically sound and kept me reading for a little while. Nice shot. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 21:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Very moving. — Jake Wartenberg 19:07, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Seems to be a copyright issue here. This photo is essentially just a photo of many copyrighted works. I don't think de minimis applies where the works are the subject of the photo. Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Really? Where is the line drawn? What is the difference between shooting a photo of a building that has a copyrighted design, and shooting a fence of copyrighted tiles? Surely fair use would apply when the photo is intended simply to document the display of the work, as opposed to copying the design exactly? Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 23:52, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • See commons:FOP. There is an explicit exception for photographs of buildings in the United States. There is no similar exception for artworks (though there is in England and I believe Australia). Fair use means non-free, and must meet the non-free criteria and be low-res and ineligible for featured picture. Calliopejen1 (talk) 01:46, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • I'm not sure what that link was supposed to refer to, but it doesn't seem to exist. No wait, I found it, you meant Commons:Freedom of panorama, right? So in your opinion, this is a clear-cut case and should not be on Wikipedia/Wikimedia, except as a low-res fair use image? Would it be the case that each of the copyrighted designs on the tiles are low-res, but combine to form a collage which is not restricted to low-res? It does seem like there are a lot of ways to be legally creative, at least in my non-legally-trained mind. :-) It is frustrating, as I am sure the creators of the work intended it to be visible to as many people as possible and had no mind to restrict use or reproductions of it, but I suppose you can never tell. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 12:57, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • I think David is right. It would be difficult to assign the copyright of the overall design to anyone, so it's valid to consider each tile separately, and they're depicted at a resolution consistent with other fair use images on WP. I think the Foundation is extremely unlikely to get sued for this, and the press would jump on any such suit, given the message of peace that the memorial seems to be intended to convey. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 20:48, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just to confirm my opinion, per Diliff's request: I think this is ineligible. Non-free works are (absolutely) ineligible, and this is a photo of many non-free works. The fact that the arrangement of these non-free works may not itself be eligible for copyright is immaterial. I also think this should probably be deleted, because we already have plenty of free photos of memorials in the article. (photos of piles of roses and mourners and such that don't highlight copyrighted works.) this is essentially the same as using ~50 nonfree images in the article because you've photographed so many little artworks in one frame. Calliopejen1 (talk) 13:08, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reluctant oppose per Calliopejen. The United States has freedom of panorama only for buildings. Sorry, but this doesn't qualify for FPC. DurovaCharge! 20:02, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Still Supporting Arrest me if you will, but I'm still giving my support to this image on the basis that images like this, this, this, this, and this clearly depict officially copyrighted and trademarked logos (officially meaning they actually filed something with a government for the rights to their design). Where does it say that that's legal? (That last sentence isn't meant to sound pompous, I actually want to know). ~ ωαdεstεr16kiss mei'm Irish 02:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Good question. My guess is that the legal justification for disallowing images like this nomination while allowing others which show copyrighted logos is that the latter are incidental to the composition and not the focus of it... Then again, I'd like to think that the law has a bit more common sense and could reach the conclusion that nobody is likely enforce the copyright on this image, but I suppose they have to cover their asses on 100% of the images to make that a single one of them doesn't result in a lawsuit? :-( Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 08:28, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional Support for the photographic merits and enc. This is also assuming the image is free, even though I personally feel that it is non-free. Do we want to ask someone over at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions about it...someone there may know. SpencerT♦C 21:02, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 19:05, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, because I think a common sense interpretation of this situation is that this is a free image with no substantial encumbrances from the individual copyrights of the tiles. The continuum of fair use is fuzzy, but lots of fair use is free enough that it doesn't trigger our non-free content policy. The subject here is the memorial itself; any particular tile is incidentally, even though the tiles as an ensemble are not. Furthermore, there is an implicit understanding by those who contributed tiles that this is a public, collective work.--ragesoss (talk) 21:27, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Ragesoss. Fletcher (talk) 03:11, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Striking my questionable, perhaps too biased, perhaps "having-a-really-bad-week" oppose. Choose instead to not comment on the image, :-). Maedin\talk 16:07, 31 March 2009 (UTC) Oppose: I feel that the content is inappropriate and should not be featured. I have nothing against 9/11 memorials per se, but this in particular shows a narrow, almost political pov which absolutely does not correspond with the reach of 9/11. As the article says, more than 90 countries lost citizens as a result of the attack, and spurred hate crime and war, which has embroiled much more than just the US. In light of that, I think that "featuring" so many US-only sentiments is unsupportable. Maedin\talk 18:55, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Mainly off-topic discussion re whether image POV is disqualifying
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
    • Sorry, I know I've disagreed with you a couple of times lately. No disrepect intended. :-) But it clearly is a POV memorial and that is the point of the image. We don't have any obligation to ensure that the photo itself is non-POV. It almost sounds like you're falling foul to NPOV with your oposition. A FP can illustrate one aspect of a subject - it doesn't have to be a multinational memorial to have enc significance. If anything, it is a historical snapshot of jingoism too. ;-) Maybe it should be added to that article... Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 20:33, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Obvious last bastion of freedom
  • For the record, I do find the whole "God Bless the USA" thing a bit irritating... As if America is the last bastion of freedom or something. The 9/11 attacks had nothing to do with American freedom, but the country felt the need to declare they were 'still free' despite the terrorist attempts to take it away somehow. Par for the course when it comes to American Patriotism though. :-) But that is a completely different topic. Other than that, I don't find the tiles particularly controversial. NPOV, sure, but nothing that would stop it being appropriate for the article or FP. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 22:37, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fletcher, you have misunderstood my comments and somehow have taken away the impression that I find peace and freedom controversial. That, of course, is not true, and in fact, is what the minority of those tiles depict (at least the ones in this photo). That is my issue. I merely think it too insensitive to be featured, and the fact that we have other featured content which I may also have that opinion about isn't really relevant. I probably would have opposed them, too. I never put forward an opinion thinking it should be "right", I expect people to disagree. But please, don't make it personal. Maedin\talk 07:53, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • But Maedin, it isn't really our place to be sensitive or make judgments on the sensitivity of others. The whole point of an encyclopaedia is to be as objective and truthful as possible, not tip-toe around issues for the sake of how the content might offend people in some way. Wikipedia is not censored, and we have an obligation to uphold that, even if it against our personal sensibilities. Of course there is some room for opinion in this process, but really you should be voting based on our existing criteria, not your criteria. :-) And besides, even if sensitivity was a significant criteria, I think a greater number of people would likely take comfort from the content of the image (as the central tile suggests) than be upset by it. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 08:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not many arguments there, I uphold that Wikipedia should not be censored. But that creed isn't quite the same as content that is featured. I would draw the line at a particularly gruesome picture, or a bit-too explicit sex illustration. Where they are appropriate, however, they are welcome. I agree with you, though, that my oppose is far from objective and is based on tip-toeing around an issue that I think needs a more sensitive approach. If you think I've gone much too far into this territory and my oppose bears no weight, I will strike it. Eeeep, sorry for the drama! /me hides . . . Maedin\talk 08:33, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Haha no worries, but you have gone and contradicted yourself again by saying Wikipedia should not be censored, then saying you draw the line at featuring gruesome/explicit images... Nevermind, I think the greater issue with this may be the licensing anyway, so it might end up being moot. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 10:03, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse me. Would fellow reviewers please move editorializing to a different location? My nearest relative survived this attack from a high floor. He was one of the very last people out of the building and most of his coworkers weren't as lucky. I joined the Navy and went to war because of this day. When I come to FPC, I'd rather review candidates than see this sort of off-topic debate. DurovaCharge! 17:36, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be the first to admit we got a little off-topic but I'm not entirely sure what your relative's survival and your decision to go to war adds to the discussion either...? Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 21:51, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Sept 11 monument in NYC - August 2004.jpg. MER-C 09:36, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as copyright violation. Additionally, the image tends to fail WP:CSB. Stifle (talk) 10:27, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • As was discussed (in this nom, and others), I don't think it does fail that. If a subject has an inherent bias, we cannot counter that. We can only ensure that a balanced viewpoint is achieved in the article. A single image (which by definition cannot encapsulate the content an entire article) should not be subject to the same requirements as an article for that very reason. Anyway, it doesn't really matter as the image is due for deletion. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 10:39, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - this is important to have in Wikipedia, that doesn't make it Feature worthy. It is just not compelling enough on its own. If you need a story to understand an image, it's not fulfilling its role as an image. The Talking Sock talk contribs 22:57, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose - Background is distracting, would look better with a shallower DOF, IMO. Also copyright issues seem to be unresolved (unresolvable?). Kaldari(talk) 16:15, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kept on Commons. Unsuspending so we can appraise this on photographic quality. MER-C 07:53, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How should we go about this, then? The majority of the opposition was based on the assumption that it was non-free, but striking them out seems a bit drastic... Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 11:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Let's see what happens. Relisting should give the opposers an opportunity to update their reviews, but if they don't they won't be considered. MER-C 12:30, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. It's not valid to call photographs of other people's artwork completely your own work. I would support deletion of the image, but I do not think it is feature worthy for that reason. Further, I don't consider it particularly striking. J Milburn (talk) 16:25, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm not claiming the artwork as my own work. I'm only claiming that I took the photo of the collage, which is completely different. It's pretty clear this is a collaboration and not something I created myself. I'd have been more than happy to give credit to the individuals who created the tiles, but there were no credits on the fence. You seem to be taking a moral line of reasoning rather than a legal one when you say you'd support deletion of it (you missed the boat there, anyway). If you were to take a moral standpoint on photographing works of art, then does that mean you'd like to see all our photos of artwork deleted too? I have certainly don't intend to break the law in taking documenting the world around us, but this isn't about crediting me - it's about showcasing important objects/scenes on the encyclopaedia... Deleting the image won't help us out there at all. But okay, if you don't find it striking... Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 17:01, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm sorry, that was actually a typing error. I meant I wouldn't. Basically, from a legal standpoint, I'm sure we're alright (hence not deleting) but, from a philosophical standpoint, I don't think this is a reflection of our best work in terms of freedom. No offence was meant- it's an excellent documentary photograph, but I don't think it's really FP material. J Milburn (talk) 11:41, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support per my original vote(s) on the matter. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 05:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per my original vote. It's an attractive and useful image.--ragesoss (talk) 05:28, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support also per original !vote. Encyclopedic illustration of how people reacted during that time. Fletcher (talk) 11:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose my old rationale still stands, but I don't fully agree with it any more. I'll posit this new one: this is an important image to have on Wikipedia. It holds personal significance to many people. The problem is that it doesn't hold that significance for a lot of people. We could find a photo like this for every disaster occurring in the US. It is a very ordinary photo. PS, why was it re-nominated? thank you to ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» for letting me know i needed to vote again. ~ The Talking Sock talk contribs 13:13, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • It was renominated because the main reasons for opposition at the time were related to the licensing. This issue was resolved after the nomination had expired, so the nomination was re-started. I don't think it matters that it doesn't represent or hold significance a lot of people. Wikipedia isn't here to please everyone. I mean, do all of our FPs hold significance for most people? Probably not. Not everyone is particularly interested in birds, insects, or architecture for example. That doesn't mean we shouldn't feature pictures of them if they illustrate an article well. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 13:44, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think that theory would limit us only to images of UNESCO World Heritage Sites... ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 14:38, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose - Same as before. Background is distracting, would look better with a shallower DOF, IMO. Kaldari (talk) 15:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Per my orginal vote. — Jake Wartenberg 15:42, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, as before. Even if Commons didn't remove it as a copyvio, it still is one. It also retains systemic bias issues. Stifle (talk) 21:17, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • It being a copyvio is only your opinion but it seems a pretty poor reason to oppose given it has already been discussed and resolved. The licensing/legal aspect is completely separate to this nomination. If you still have a problem with it, you should re-raise it on Commons. Also, it doesn't have systematic bias issues any more than the majority of our FPs are by virtue of the contributors being from western countries.. This was covered above. It documents an interesting and historic scene. If the scene is biased, so be it. Many scenes are. The solution to systematic bias is to encourage alternative POVs, not to reject the 'mainstream' POV. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 21:42, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as before. SpencerT♦Nominate! 23:30, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support for its EV. Makeemlighter (talk) 01:52, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Sept 11 monument in NYC - August 2004.jpg MER-C 02:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original - "Mrs. Bedonebyasyoudid." Illustration by Jessie Willcox Smith for Charles Kingsley's The Water Babies in charcoal, water, and oil. (New York : Dodd, Mead & Co., 1916), p. 236.
Reason
Scan of an original illustration by Jessie Willcox Smith for the children's book The Water-Babies.
Articles this image appears in
Water Babies
Creator
Jessie Willcox Smith
  • Support as nominator --ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 19:01, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. DurovaCharge! 20:05, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Isn't this a touch too bright and saturated, maybe? Seems a little much for 1916, before some of the modern dyes. Also, need the crop be that tight on the right? It's removing details of the second waterbaby. if you must crop - a reasonable choice for the Wikipedia-version - I'd suggest favouring cropping on the left, and upload an uncropped version - most people will be happy if something exists with an alternate compromise to the problems, even if the crop is better for Wikipedia, which it might well be. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 21:47, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's too saturated. I've seen some well-preserved older painting that look about as bright as this. As for the crop, I believe it's fine. All that's missing on the right side is a bit of space before the baby's head. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 01:27, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well... Neutral - though I'd suggest uploading an uncropped version: It really is best practice to offer an alternative when doing the more extreme crops. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 01:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It shows another illustration of the book. The book is over a three hundred pages long, so I don't see the problem with having two pictures, which illustrate different parts of the book, featured. ErikTheBikeMan (talk) 20:47, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moar reviews plz. MER-C 07:57, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Jessie Willcox Smith - The Water Babies - p236 (Restored).jpg MER-C 02:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A map of the San Francisco – Oakland Bay Bridge, showing the original bridge and proposed eastern span replacement. The bridge is a multi-structure toll bridge complex that spans San Francisco Bay and links the California cities of Oakland and San Francisco in the United States, as part of Interstate 80. It carries approximately 270,000 vehicles per day.
Reason
The map is high-quality, high-resolution, and has good detail and enc. The first nomination (of the PNG version) is here.
Articles this image appears in
San Francisco – Oakland Bay Bridge (PNG version used)
Creator
Alexrk

Not promoted MER-C 02:34, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A heckler in Washington, D.C. leans across a police line toward a demonstration of Iranians during the Iran hostage crisis, August 1980.
Reason
As good a visual capture of heckling as we're likely to get. Happened during an encyclopedic crisis. Restored version of File:Heckler.jpg.
Articles this image appears in
Heckler, Iran_hostage_crisis#In_America
Creator
Warren K. Leffler, for US News and World Report (public domain by donation)

Some more feedback on enc would be appreciated. MER-C 09:16, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Further comment. I've thought a bit more about this. A number of voters - dare I say almost all - claim this is as good a photo of heckling as you could get, or that it's something a still image couldn't really illustrate at all or any better. Even disregarding the discussion just above about whether or not this guy is really a heckler, I still disagree with this point of view. IMO, a high EV shot of heckling would show both the heckler and the person being heckled. This is both quite possible and realistic to expect, but obviously this particular image doesn't do so, which is why I don't think it is a good illustration of heckling. Other thoughts on this? --jjron (talk) 07:18, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Cacophony (talk) 20:42, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as far as it is for Heckling. I agree with Jjron that an image will never particularly well illustrate this, and that in this case it is not clear that he is heckling rather than just shouting abuse - my opinion of heckling is that the abuse or comment is when another person is making a speech, not illustrated here. For example, someone in a crowd at a stand-up comedy with both comedian and heckler in view would better illustrate this. |→ Spaully 11:17, 7 April 2009 (GMT)

No consensus MER-C 02:45, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Tunis, Tunisia, c. 1890-1900. Zaytuna Mosque is slightly right of center.
Edit 1 - an attempt to adjust the colors
Reason
Tunis, the capital city of Tunisia, as the skyline appeared in the 1890s. Restored version of File:Tunisia view 1890s.jpg.
Articles this image appears in
Tunis#Development_under_the_Protectorate
Creator
Detroit Publishing Co.

More reviews, please. ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 04:17, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not enough full supports in an extended period of time. The caveats proposed by one user do have weight and the fact that this user's !vote was note full does not allow me to promote the image. Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 15:55, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Japanese sampan-type river boat. Painted photograph from Japan, dating from before 1886, according to a written note on the album containing the photographs. Presumed Author of the original photographs: Adolfo Farsari.
Reason
Old, original, being an example of a Japanese sampan-type boat as well as being a presumed photograph taken by Adolfo Farsari. It was previously declined (see Featured picture candidates/Japanese river boat) because of licensing issues, which have now been settled.
Articles this image appears in
Sampan and the gallery of Adolfo Farsari
Creator
Presumably Adolfo Farsari
I'm not an expert on this subject, but I think this kind of floating-house kind of river boat is rare, at least in Japan. Mikael Häggström (talk) 15:50, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's ok for me to suspend it for a while. Or we make a new nomination once we have the cleaned version.Mikael Häggström (talk) 15:33, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]


For my part, I think it can just as well be placed in "nominations older than 7 days", since there is (yet) no change in the picture since the beginning of this nomination. Mikael Häggström (talk) 05:21, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Going once... MER-C 12:57, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fug. Just close it or unsuspend it. It's in my to do list, and will get done when it gets done. I hate working with photos, so it's very for me to procrastinate on them. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 10:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Suspended for another user to restore the image. Has yet to be done after good length of time. Now requests closure until said work can be completed, at which point a new nomination will take place ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 15:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original - The Suez Canal at Ismailia, Egypt, c. 1860.
Reason
The Suez Canal during a partially completed phase, c. 1860, at Ismailia, Egypt adjacent to the northern bank of Lake Timsah. Restored version of File:Suez Canal Ismailia.jpg. Smaller courtesy copy available for users with slow connection speeds at File:Suez Canal Ismailia2 courtesy copy.jpg.
Articles this image appears in
Suez Canal, Lake Timsah, Francis Frith
Creator
Francis Frith

No quorum->Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 05:29, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - House in Galveston, Texas on Avenue N after the 1900 Galveston hurricane, October 15, 1900.
Reason
Over 3600 homes were destroyed in Galveston, Texas during the 1900 Galveston hurricane. Approximately 8000 people died from the storm, making it the deadliest storm ever to strike the United States. Striking photograph of the damage. Restored version of File:A big tip in Galveston.jpg.
Articles this image appears in
1900 Galveston hurricane
Creator
Griffith & Griffith

Promoted File:A_big_tip_in_Galveston2.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 05:30, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Giuseppe Garibaldi, c. 1861
Reason
Encyclopedic portrait of the man.
Articles this image appears in
Italian unification, Mount Garibaldi, Giuseppe Garibaldi
Creator
Unknown photopgrapher. Restored by Michel Vuijlsteke
  • That looks great! I presume you've played with sharpening the face and tweaking it - if not, you might want to try that a little more and see if you get any improvements, but it looks quite good to me already. Although the original is not Matthew Brady quality, it's still quite good for the age, and the encyclopedic value cannot be doubted. Change to Full Support. =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 03:43, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 17:08, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Christy Mathewson as a pitcher for the New York Giants (1910)
Reason
Great portrait of The Christian Gentleman, one of the original five inductees in the baseball Hall of Fame, in 1910.
Articles this image appears in
Christy Mathewson
Creator
Photo: Paul Thompson. Restored by Michel Vuijlsteke
  • Oppose Sorry, it's nice, but Christy Mathewson was a baseball player. He'd need to be on the field or at least in uniform for this to have enough EV. Makeemlighter (talk) 01:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    I disagree that he has to be in uniform. To comply with that sort of restriction, singers should only be performing or in the studio and actors should only be in character and surgeons should only be in white coats with bloody gloves. Christy was also a soldier, and a bit of a "celebrity" in his time. Maedin\talk 16:40, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Although the blur on his nose is very distracting, I think this is excellent. Good quality and striking portrait. As a side note, when I was an adolescent, my dad had a book of old "baseball greats" and I remember this picture printed next to Christy's biography. He was the player I "liked most"—I thought he was so cute! Maedin\talk 16:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 17:08, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Robert McGee, scalped as a child by Sioux Chief Little Turtle
Edit 1 - Levels adjusted a little.
Reason
Encyclopedic image of a scalped man who lived to tell the tale!
Articles this image appears in
American Indian Wars Scalping
Creator
Photo by E.E. Henry. Restored by Michel Vuijlsteke
Nah, check the histogram: It's a lot whiter, but not blown =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 20:30, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ha. :)
I've adjusted the levels in the original (but not so much on the hanky around his neck). OK for you? I'd rather do it like this, starting from the original lossless version, than work from a second-generation jpeg. -- Michel Vuijlsteke (talk) 23:08, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Support original =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 03:31, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Robert McGee, scalped as a child by Sioux Chief Little Turtle in 1864-2.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 17:09, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Silver Banksia (Banksia marginata)
Reason
Good quality etc
Articles this image appears in
Banksia marginata
Creator
Noodle snacks

Withdrawn See my talk page. --Noodle snacks (talk) 13:08, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - The Tower of Belém, in Lisbon, was built in the sixteenth century, under king Manuel I, to commemorate the voyage of Vasco da Gama to India. Its style, known as Manueline, is a late gothic of Portuguese origin incorporating ornamental elements from the discovery ships and voyages.
Reason
detailed and high quality panorama of a well-known monument. The best vailable, I believe.
Articles this image appears in
Tower of Belém, Manueline
Creator
Alvesgaspar (talk)
Twins at Torre Belém?
  • Very nice picture. Therefore I've nominated it at german FPC. But there seem to be some retouching work that is very curious. What is the reason for this manipulation? Wladyslaw (talk) 12:38, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdraw the nomination and promise to come back with a re-stitched version, as soon as possible. Yes, besides the problem of the identical twins, there seems to be some temperature differences across the pano. Hope it can all be fixed. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 12:56, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]




Original - Circumcision being performed in central Asia (probably Turkestan, c. 1865-1872.
Reason
Albumen print of a traditional circumcision being performed in central Asia. Restored version of File:Circumcision central Asia2.jpg.
Articles this image appears in
Circumcision, History of male circumcision, Khitan (circumcision)
Creator
unknown

Promoted File:Circumcision central Asia2.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 17:16, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Andrew Gregg Curtin, governor of Pennsylvania
Not for voting - Unrestored original for comparison
Reason
High resolution, high quality encyclopedic portrait of an influential politician, Andrew Gregg Curtin. Not the most straightforward of restorations either. Low-resolution courtesy copy available.
Articles this image appears in
United States presidential election, 1872, Andrew Gregg Curtin, Pennsylvania in the American Civil War, War Governors' Conference
Creator
unknown photographer, restored by Michel Vuijlsteke

Promoted File:Andrew Curtin2.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 17:17, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - "The modern Circe or a sequel to the petticoat", caricature of Mary Anne Clarke by Isaac Cruikshank, 1809. Her lover Frederick, Duke of York resigned from his position as Commander-in-Chief of the British Army ten days after the caricature's publication.
Reason
Mary Anne Clarke was mistress to Prince Frederick, Duke of York and Albany, who was second son to George III of the United Kingdom. She liked the good life and the expense of pleasing her was a bit pricey even for the son of a king, which led to sales of army commissions and other corruption that caused a scandal in 1809 and resulted in his resignation from his position as Commander-in-Chief of the British Army. Tsk, tsk. They didn't have supermarket tabloids yet, but this captures a similar spirit. Restored version of File:Mary Anne Clarke.jpg.
Articles this image appears in
Mary Anne Clarke, Prince Frederick, Duke of York and Albany
Creator
Isaac Cruikshank

No quorum Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 17:13, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A cluster of female cochineal insects (Dactylopius coccus) feeding on a cactus.
Reason
Great macro, and a type of insect form that gets neglected. For that matter, how about some isopod FPCs? You know, pillbugs?
Articles this image appears in
Cochineal
Creator
Frank Vincentz
Then how about put it in the Cochineal section of Opuntia. I'm no good at formatting images in articles. Thx. After which I support purely for its EV. Not the greatest picture, but it tells a huge story we're not telling here otherwise. --KP Botany (talk) 20:03, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No quorum Not promoted --~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 17:14, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - George Frideric Handel, in a painting by Balthasar Denner.
Reason
I don't think there's any doubt Handel is an important composer, nor that this is a very good painting of him.
Articles this image appears in
Used in Template:Handel, and thus the lead image for pretty much all Handel-related works, which is maybe 70 articles. (The list on the image page may take a little time to populate, as the template formerly used a lower-res copy of the same image, which I just switched over)
Creator
Balthasar Denner
  • Support as nominator By the way, I hope you'll forgive me if I suggest a couple works collected, prepared, or created by others today - we have a lot of fantastic work that is as yet uncelebrated, and a lot of important subjects with a strong candidate for an FP that just need nominated. --Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 05:34, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The face looks very cracked- is that not something that would normally be fixed in a restoration, or does that "cross the line" with regards to changing the original image? J Milburn (talk) 12:08, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'd say that does cross the line, and further, I'm not even sure that it'd be possible to fix the crazing with good effect at this resolution since brush strokes and changing paint colours are really quite subtle, so you need a lot more pixels to work with to get it right. I also suspect that it wouldn't work very well even then, and would change too many things with clear artistic intent. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 12:29, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral "Cracked" face detracts somewhat from image quality, otherwise a very nice image. tempodivalse [☎] 00:51, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No quorum Not promoted --~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 17:14, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Merops bullockoides White-fronted Bee-eater
Reason
Quality?
Articles this image appears in
White-fronted Bee-eater
Creator
Luc Viatour (talk)

Promoted File:Merops bullockoides 1 Luc Viatour.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 17:17, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - "The Judas Kiss" (1866) by Gustave Doré.
Reason
Gustave Doré is pretty much universally considered one of the masters of engraving. So I thought I'd try to do at least some of his Easter-related engravings this weekend. I'm afraid I may end up with several noms, but they'll all be seasonally appropriate. =) ...Until Monday. Oh, well. Better to do it now than to not do it at all.
Articles this image appears in
Mark 14, The kiss of Judas, Good Friday, Judas Iscariot
Creator
Gustave Doré

Promoted File:Gustave_Doré_-_The_Holy_Bible_-_Plate_CXLI,_The_Judas_Kiss.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 17:19, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Miomantis paykullii
Reason
information aesthetics
Articles this image appears in
Miomantis paykullii
+ List of mantis genera and species & Mantis ZooFari 01:16, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Creator
Luc Viatour (talk)
It is a young subject. It is very colorful --Luc Viatour (talk) 13:51, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Good DoF, great resolution, has wow. DurovaCharge! 18:40, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per above. Very nice picture. - Fastily (talk) 21:16, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Regretful oppose Comment I hate to oppose such "WOW!" imageI changed to a comment (I don't want to oppose an image for something that may not be true). The fact that the nominator claims it is naturally bright leaves me doubts. As an image editor myself, I can tell if the image is over saturated or not. I may be wrong, but the color in this image seems exaggerated when looking very close at the detail in full size. Speaking of size, this image is way too large. It took me approximately 1:55 min. to fully display the image at full size. The blown highlights at the end of the abdomen hurt too. I'm not a big fan of this composition either, but I don't want to get into that with mantis pics. Perhaps you can prove me wrong and find sources that show the same color factor. I may support if so for its wow factor. By the way, I added it into two more articles. ZooFari 01:16, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Link to more images and other lighting [22] and [23] --Luc Viatour (talk) 21:50, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is not visible on Wikipedia. But many of my images are used elsewhere without the respect of licenses, it is a discreet way to keep track of my images outside of Wikipedia. --Luc Viatour (talk) 06:46, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You may find this useful for keeping track of your images --Muhammad(talk) 20:44, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The image does seem to be a bit over-saturated, but that said, the consensus is definitely in favor of the image. And while the size is a bit large, we are only limited here by the WP and Commons limitations of 100MB. Promoted File:Miomantis_paykullii_Luc_Viatour.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 17:24, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

[[Image:Epcot Scenery.jhgl

Um, isn't it a condition of entry that photographs taken in these theme parks are to be used for non-commercial purposes only? (I know HK Disneyland imposes this restriction, I see no reason why this shouldn't be different). Nominated for deletion. MER-C 04:28, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've never heard that. And morally speaking, is that right? I'd like to see a source first. What makes this commercial? ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 08:21, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's an adhesion contract, which you'll find on the back of the ticket or a noticeboard near the entrance (in other words, you're not likely to notice it if you aren't looking for it). Example: [24]. A public domain work can be used for commercial purposes, so it's not allowed. What else would you expect from the mafiaa? MER-C 11:20, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The photographer broke their contract with the theme park, but that does not in any way affect the licensing or legal status of the image. Kaldari (talk) 17:05, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 17:15, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Lilium longiflorum
Reason
A little seasonal reference. This is an image of a lilium longiflorum, also known as an Easter lily. It's a crisp, high rez image of the trumpet-shaped white flower. I took many photos, but decided that this composition was best to show the petals, stamina, and the long trumpet shape.
Articles this image appears in
Lilium longiflorum, Lilium, Template:Liliales-stub
Creator
Yours truly
  • Support as nominator --~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 19:05, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Technically, it's fine. It's sharp and the DOF is tolerable, but I find that 'looking down at' angle makes it seem a bit throwaway snapshotty. That might come across as photographer-snobbery, so I apologise if that's how it sounds, as it is isn't my intention! Getting down at the level of the subject generally helps the composition, though. Also, I think that while a straight-on angle might not show all the features as well as from the side, I this one is too side on which exacerbates the DOF limitations. This one is probably more of a VPC IMO. The bar has been set fairly high for flower macros. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 19:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak opposesupport per Dillif. Lighting lacks as well. ZooFari 20:34, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I saw these at Walmart today and it appears that it is normally tilted like that. I'd still like to see a brighter image for my full support. ZooFari 01:53, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - It's clear, visually appealing, and you can tell it's a flower; that's all that matters to me. –Juliancolton | Talk 21:28, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Juliancolton--Yue of the North 21:37, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The background is distracting, stand further away and zoom in more. It is underexposed. The lighting is fairly harsh and uneven, the shutter speed suggests sunlight. I'd shade the flower to get a more even light and consequently allow a brighter exposure since the specular highlights would be gone. I'd also suggest taking the photograph from a lower angle per Diliff. There is also some mild, treatable CA in places. Noodle snacks (talk) 02:59, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Given that the background is out of focus anyway, it would look a lot better if it was far more blurred, drawing attention to the lily. Furthermore, the background is fairly obviously grass, and as such probably not representative of the flower's true natural environment on the Ryukyu Islands. Compare it to the background of File:Milk thistle flowerhead.jpg for example. Incidentally, if ωαdεstεr16 followed Diliff's suggestion, the background would also be far more blurred. Noodle snacks (talk) 03:28, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 11:16, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A panorama of the Hobart area in South Eastern Tasmania from Bellerive.
Reason
High resolution, technicals seem good.
Articles this image appears in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobart
Creator
Flying_Freddy

Promoted File:Greater Hobart Panorama.jpg MER-C 11:16, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Japanese Anenome (Anemone hupehensis var. japonica)
Reason
Good quality, would eventually suit a more specialised article at some point.
Articles this image appears in
Anemone
Creator
Noodle snacks

Promoted File:Anemone hupehensis var. japonica 1.jpg MER-C 11:16, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Charles Pomeroy Stone with his daughter Hettie
not for voting - (part of) unrestored original
Reason
Unique picture of Charles Pomeroy Stone (1824–1887) with his daughter Hettie. Stone taught geography, history and ethics at West Point, then fought in the Mexican War, left the army because he felt it didn't pay enough to support his family, became a banker in San Francisco, then surveyed Sonora where he briefly was the acting consul, moved to Washington D.C., was reputedly the first volunteer officer in the Union Army, was Abraham Lincoln's security chief at his inauguration, lost a thousand men to the Confederates at Ball's Bluff, was disgraced and imprisoned (but never convicted), subsequently cleared, went back briefly to the Army of the Potomac, after the war worked for a mining company in Virginia, then went to Egypt where he was --for thirteen years-- the chief of staff for Ismail the Magnificent and his successor; then came back to the States and was engineer for the Florida Ship Canal Company. And then he was the Chief Engineer for the construction of the Statue of Liberty's pedestal and concrete foundation. Imagine the stories Hettie could tell.
Articles this image appears in
Charles Pomeroy Stone
Creator
unknown photographer; restored by Michel Vuijlsteke


Promoted File:Charles P. Stone2b.jpg MER-C 11:16, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Jules Massenet's Le Cid, Act 2, Scene 3, from L'Illustration's coverage of the opera's première. The climactic event of the early opera: Rodrigue's father has obliged his son to defend his honour, but Rodrigue only afterwards learns that the person he has to duel is his beloved Chimène's father, the Comte de Gormas. He is honour-bound to go through with it, and wins the duel, but Chimène now both loves and hates him, and this internal conflict powers the drama of the rest of the opera.
Reason
I love Le Cid. It's a fantastic opera, combining a strong plot with wonderful music.

So... when I saw a chance to get a copy of the 5 Décembre 1885 copy of L'Illustration - the edition that covered the première - I snapped it up. This is the second of four illustrations printed therein - expect the rest to follow. The 19th century had some spectacular set design, and this image shows it off wonderfully. The original scan contains two images, so, if you'll pardon me, I'll upload it with the second, as Commons has been a little awkward for me of late.

Articles this image appears in
Le Cid, Le Cid (opera)
Creator
Auguste Tilly

Support per Durova. Mostlyharmless (talk) 04:09, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Jules Massenet - Le Cid 2e Acte, 3e Tableau - L'Illustration.jpg MER-C 11:16, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Cornelius Vanderbilt. Daguerrotype] produced by Mathew Brady's studio.
Not for voting - Original daguerrotype for comparison.
Reason
Cornelius Vanderbilt was the patriarch of the Vanderbilt family. There are a couple of engravings and paintings of him floating around on Wikipedia/Commons, but this is a relatively high-quality, relatively high-resolution photographic image. The original was a daguerrotype by Mathew Brady (or at least his studio), somewhere between 150 and 165 years old. This restoration has some scratches removed, global and local histogram changes for contrast, and is cropped.
Articles this image appears in
Cornelius Vanderbilt, Vanderbilt University, List of Congressional Gold Medal recipients, Wealthy historical figures 2007, Wealthy historical figures 2006, Wealthy historical figures 2008
Creator
Produced by Mathew Brady's studio; restored by Mchel Vuijlsteke

Promoted File:Cornelius Vanderbilt Daguerrotype2.jpg MER-C 11:16, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Battle of Antietam: Army of the Potomac, commanded by George McClellan; Union soldiers cross Burnside's Bridge over Antietam Creek.
Alternative 1 - Less contrast on left and right hand sides.
Not for voting - Unrestored original for comparison.
Reason
High resolution encyclopedic lithograph. Low resolution courtesy copy available, but it's all in the details for this one.
Articles this image appears in
Battle of Antietam, Pepper-box, History of Maryland, Maryland in the American Civil War
Creator
unknown lithographer; restored by Michel Vuijlsteke
  • I'd keep going. It just seems to have lost something with the current colour balance: the original seems to have the left half of the image seen through smoke, but yours has the left half restored to full contrast. The lower right, which was much brighter in the original, thus becomes rather lurid. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 17:05, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No quorum. Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 16:04, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Ginger Lily (Hedychium gardnerianum)
Reason
Not completely open, but by the time the top has opened the bottom is decaying.
Articles this image appears in
Hedychium gardnerianum
Creator
Noodle snacks

Promoted File:Hedychium gardnerianum.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 01:18, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Two boys enjoy treats during the annual Easter egg roll at the White House lawn on Easter Monday, 1911.
Reason
Another holiday restoration: the Easter Monday article had no lead image. One of the highest profile Easter Monday events is the annual Easter egg roll at the White House lawn, which has been a staple of holiday news coverage in the United States for over a century. A good photographic representation of how children enjoy the holiday. What I like is its candor and timelessness: the White House is visible enough, but it takes a moment to notice the adult women in the background and realize how old this is. Restored version of File:Easter egg roll boys.jpg.
Articles this image appears in
Easter Monday
Creator
Harris & Ewing

Promoted File:Easter egg roll boys2.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 01:19, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - "Joan of Arc saved France--Women of America, save your country--Buy War Savings Stamps", poster for World War I war savings stamps, 1918.
Reason
An attractive piece of World War I graphic art, encyclopedic at the article where it appears. Restored version of File:Joan of Arc WWI lithograph.jpg.
Articles this image appears in
War savings stamps
Creator
Haskell Coffin

Promoted File:Joan of Arc WWI lithograph2.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 01:19, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Officers of the original USS Monitor, photographed during the American Civil War.
Reason
A featured picure to go with a featured article (Ironclad warship): one of the most famous ships in US Naval history. Unrestored version of File:Monitor officers2.jpg.
Articles this image appears in
USS Monitor, Monitor (warship), Battle of Hampton Roads, Ironclad warship
Creator
unknown
  • Support as nominator --DurovaCharge! 03:43, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. The ship's interesting, but to me you see far too little of it in this photo. And there's not enough else there to compensate - the composition is average, the lighting is pretty bad, and we get a lineup of fifteen unidentified officers (partially obscured) in lieu of a good view of the ship. Sorry, doesn't make it for mine. --jjron (talk) 14:25, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • support GerardM (talk) 07:29, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I agree with Jjon that the image lacks 'wow' factor, but it has bucketloads of EV and meets the other criteria. The cannon placed on the deck of the ship for the purposes of the photo (it would have been certain death to use it in combat and it would have gotten swept off the ship in any kind of seas) is fascinating - do you know why it's there? Nick-D (talk) 10:15, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 22:46, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A panoramic view of Estadio Monumental Antonio Vespucio Liberti, the stadium for River Plate football club
Reason
High resolution, visually appealing, good depiction of Argentines in their native habitat
Articles this image appears in
Belgrano, Buenos Aires, River Plate Stadium, Argentina
Creator
China
  • Support as nominator --Ultimaking (talk) 18:18, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unfortunate oppose. Unfortunate because we could do with some FPs from this part of the world, but there's a bit too much about this that doesn't quite make it IMO. Overexposed to blown sky, perspective distortions and the entire bottom corner of the field being cutoff - I may be willing to overlook some issues, but that's a bit too much. It's understandable that parts of the stand would be lost, but for a view like this you really want the whole playing field at least. On a more general point, even though you're too far away to really see much action, I kind of feel I would rather have it taken during the game rather than as what looks to be just the first team (though admittedly the home team) runs onto the field. --jjron (talk) 14:17, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Jjron. This is a bad choice for a panorama. The image also features people that should be blurred off to prevent problematic complains. ZooFari 00:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Jjron. A good effort but lacking in a few key areas (blown sky and incomplete view of the ground). Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 07:35, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - I find myself agreeing with Jjron. It is indeed a nice panorama, though. –Juliancolton | Talk 02:47, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 22:46, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - The earthstar fungus Geastrum saccatum.
Reason
Clearly shows all the important details of a bizarre-looking earthstar fungus, eg. the central pore surrounded by the circular "mouth", recurved rays (can even see the thickness of the rays); plus, the surrounding vegetation helps to give a size perspective. FP on French wikipedia.
Articles this image appears in
Geastrum saccatum, Geastrum
Creator
Mike Young

Not promoted MER-C 09:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - This statue of David is probably the most famous work of art by the hand of Michelangelo. The original is located in the Galleria dell'Accademia in Florence, Italy. This copy of the statue stands on its original site (Piazza della Signoria). This vertical panorama attemps to give a detailed depiction of the statue, which has been recently cleaned.
Reason
EV is high; clear and technically fine image
Articles this image appears in
Florence, Michelangelo, David and Piazza della Signoria
Creator
Massimo Catarinella
I don't want to be defensive but....this still is Wikipedia, an encyclopedia. The walls of the Palazzo Vecchio should be the background of this picture and the only way to get a frontal shot of the statue is by including the building in the background. You shouldn't twist and bent reality, just to get a prettier picture. I could easily make the background black, but that isn't real. As fore the shadow. It isn't overtly distraction and doesn't obscure details. A collage of the friezes of the Albert Memorial by Diliff just got promoted (nice picture btw) and two of those friezes are also in the shade. Despite this it still got promoted. I more and more get the feeling that there is a huge bias on Wikipedia FPC towards some photographers. If a image belongs to Diliff or Noodle Snacks (both great photographers btw!) for example, they instantly get promoted. I've seen enough great encyclopedic images over the time by other photographers, which got rejected by the most ridiculous of reasons. --Massimo Catarinella (talk) 15:53, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You've contributed fine, quality work, which gets recognized. Reasonable people can differ about a particular image. Spikebrennan (talk) 18:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The remark wasn't specifically about this picture or me for that matter, but it is just a feeling I get at FPC lately. I meant no disrespect toward anyones opinion and I made the remark to get people to think. --Massimo Catarinella (talk) 22:33, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: as can be seen here, at approximately midday (judged by the high sun almost directly South), the statue is mostly in shade. Could another photo not be taken at a different time of day, or on a day with less direct sunlight, to get the necessary lighting effect? —Vanderdeckenξφ 10:20, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. First, this is a photo of a copy of the statue, not a photo of the famous statue itself, so EV is lacking. Second, the lighting makes it look like this is an illustration of the wall behind the statue, rather than of the statue itself. Spikebrennan (talk) 18:37, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the background should have the dim lighting with the subject well lit. A much smaller DOF would also be preferable. Highly reproducible shots like this should be better technically. Cacophony (talk) 01:25, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: As this is a copy of the statue, in the original location, my view on this is that it should be showing the location itself . . . the square, the nearby buildings, etc. I would happily support a quality photograph which didn't necessarily have the focus on the statue but on its surroundings. Otherwise, I'm afraid, this is just a picture of the copy, and photographs of the original are not yet impossible to obtain. Maedin\talk 18:21, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 09:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Hinchliff's engraving of Marguerite of Navarre, from an 1864 English edition of her Heptaméron.
Reason
A major enlightenment literary and historical figure deserves a featured picture. This Victorian steel engraving is stunningly detailed - would you believe the original is no bigger than an index card? - and serves as an attractive introduction to her. Would you believe I found this book in the bargain bin at a charity shop for £2?
Articles this image appears in
Marguerite of Navarre, Heptaméron
Creator
"Hinchliff". I can find no further information on him (probably not her, given the date)

Promoted File:Hinchliff - Marguerite Queen of Navarre crop.jpg MER-C 09:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original - Psetta maxima (Turbot)
Reason
quality difficult to do with the optical distortion of water
Articles this image appears in
Psetta_maxima
Creator
Luc Viatour (talk)

Promoted File:Psetta maxima Luc Viatour.jpg MER-C 09:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Rewritten caption - Human hands are the two prehensile body parts, each with four fingers and one thumb, located at the far end of each arm. They are used for a wide range of tasks from the roughest motor skills (wielding a club) to the finest (threading a needle). Many tasks require learned hand-eye coordination where movement is controlled by the brain which receives visual information from the eyes, tactile sensation from nerve endings in the skin including the fingertips, and joint position sense from nerves around joints. Note that arteries and nerves have not been drawn in across the middle of the hand and palm to show the deeper layers.
Reason
High quality and great value to the encyclopedia
Articles this image appears in
Hand
Creator
Wilfredor
Numbered version, FP on commons
Thank you for your message at WP:Med. I have added a comment below. Snowman (talk) 10:51, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments this is an outstanding image, but I have some concerns:
  • Why is the fascia that overlies the adductor pollicis so opaque? It obscures the fact that the underlying structure, a muscle, is like the other muscles, and that its fibers are almost perpendicular to the others (hence its functional importance for our opposable thumb).
  • Linked to my previous comment - the path of the probe, which is supposedly deep to the adductor pollicis muscle, is unclear - is that probe more than a distraction?
  • Shouldn't "anular" be "annular"?
  • Is this an opportunity to indicate the stuctures passing through the carpal tunnel?
  • My Strong support for this beautiful and technically outstanding image is mitigated by these concerns. --Scray (talk) 04:54, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Overly medical diagram of limited use to most Wikipedia users. This is basically showing a dissection, complete with a probe, when we would be better served by a more common usage illustration of the hand (who below university level medical students would be using 90% of this terminology?). The general description in the caption doesn't gel with the medical terminology included on the diagram itself. Also completely lacking in sources, which I thought we had agreed was required for diagrams due to concerns about WP:OR. While the diagram itself seems well enough done, I don't think it's serving the target audience well. --jjron (talk) 06:47, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: It think the author is potentially a talented illustrator, but I think that the hand image is little use to an anatomist and might confuse a general reader. I do not know why the radial artery is not labelled. I think that too many of the connecting nerves and arteries have been cut out; see File:Gray817.png. I do not know why the anastomosis between the radial artery and the ulnar artery is not shown, which is one of the most important things that needs to be shown here; see File:Gray815.png. The insertion of flexor digitonum superficialis tendon does not show its mechanical arrangement, which is another one of the key features that needs to be shown. I think the common flexor sheath extends further down the hand than illustrated; see File:Gray423.png. Just to show it is there, I might have put in the radial nerve as it innervates the web between the thumb and index finger and also parts of the back of the hand and wrist (with some variability). I think that is would be better to do separate diagrams of the arteries, nerves, muscles with tendons and bones. The diagram should say that it is the anterior aspect (palm up) of a right hand, and I think that all of the structures passing through the carpel tunnel need labelling. I think that the omissions make this image potentially misleading, and, in my opinion, should definitely not be a featured image. I think the caption needs rewriting too. Snowman (talk) 10:32, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't agree with the strongly negative tone of this comment, for the following reasons: it's a judgment call regarding the balance between satisfying an audience that sits somewhere between but far from the extremes of anatomist versus completely uneducated reader (I'll admit that I'm closer to the former than the latter); this is a deep dissection, and one simply has to make choices about the structures retained (e.g. loss of the palmar arterial arcades); Gray's 1901 edition is not a gold standard against which to measure other illustrations - it's useful and available, but has its limits; I agree with the suggestions regarding labeling and the caption. Separate illustrations of types of structures would be useful, but this sort of combined image helps integrate concepts, too. --Scray (talk) 12:16, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the omission of the anastomosis in itself would fail this in becoming a featured image with the current caption. It might be better, if all the smaller nerves and arteries were removed and it became an illustration of the muscles, tendons, and tendon sheaths. It would be more understandable, if the caption was helpful and said that important sections of arteries and nerves have been removed. Please list any faults that you have found on the Gray's illustrations that I have linked. Snowman (talk) 13:56, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Several comments have been on about the caption, so I have rewritten it and I am sure that it could be improved further. I would pass the image as a featured image with a suitable caption which says that arteries and nerves have been "cut away", which I think the new modified caption does. Snowman (talk) 15:15, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Firstly, I am amazed at the detail and skill of this SVG, really well done. Secondly I notice that the numbered version is featured on commons (added on right). This potentially could be a more useful image for article space where the text on the text version is likely to be too small unless viewed in full, this would also allow a better caption and variable labelling perhaps with links and medical and lay terms where appropriate.
This would be a strong support if some clear indication is made of it being palm up; I would prefer the radial artery to also be labelled and perhaps the anastomosis to be present but appreciate this is a great image without this. |→ Spaully 14:14, 31 March 2009 (GMT)
I have notified the author on commons and perhaps he can attend to any labelling minor fixes. Snowman (talk) 15:25, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Good day. I have been reading all your comments, and I am ready to correct these errors. I have problems to identify radial artery. I am not a doctor and my source, Dr. Who has decided to help is not anonymous. Thank's --Libertad0 ॐ (talk) 18:21, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, 18 points to the ulnar artery. The radial artery is the red one on the other side of the wrist about the same diameter. There is only a small bit visible before it is cut off. Next to the radial artery are two tendons and in the middle of the wrist there is the median nerve, the large yellow one, which could be labelled median nerve. There are two more tendons to the right and another red tube the ulnar artery, also worth labelling. Snowman (talk) 20:19, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A minor point (and it may be variable) but it is the ulnar artery - with an 'r'. It would be good to label the median nerve as you say. |→ Spaully 21:22, 31 March 2009 (GMT)
Whoops, "ulnar" is the correct spelling. Ulna is a bone. I have corrected the typing above to reduce confusion. Snowman (talk) 22:09, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reference me please. MER-C 07:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 09:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original - 3-4mm long Homoneura sp. flies of the family Lauxaniidae. The top one is the male. Pictured in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania.
Edit 1 Colors adjusted
Edit 2 Colors adjusted again per jjron's commnets
Reason
Good quality, DOF and EV. Almost an FP at commons as well, where it raised some pretty hilarious ethical issues
Articles this image appears in
Acalyptratae, Lauxaniidae, Homoneura
Creator
Muhammad

Promoted File:Homoneura sp wb2.jpg MER-C 09:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Spotted Turtle Dove (Streptopelia chinensis), Austins Ferry, Tasmania, Australia
Edit 1 - Cloned a bit of out of focus leaf
Reason
Good quality, nice colours
Articles this image appears in
Spotted Dove
Creator
Noodle snacks


Promoted File:Streptopelia chinensis Tas Edit.jpg MER-C 09:32, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original - A Stingless bee, Meliponula ferruginea. App 7mm long. Pictured in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania
Reason
Good sharpness, lighting, DOF and EV, appearing in two articles as the lead image. The size is a bit smaller than what I usually upload because the image had to be taken form a distance and cropped. It is however still above the requirement. The pictures is not downsampled. The bee is also well identified which is quite rare of African insects.
Articles this image appears in
Meliponula, Meliponini
Creator
Muhammad

No consensus MER-C 09:33, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Reason
A useful set of images, providing good encyclopedic value to the pages of various protestant martyrs. Featured Set Candidate. The set is complete, including all illustrations by Kronheim, or at least the ones that were printed in this book. The originals are abut 3" x 5". Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 22:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Articles this image appears in
All: Foxe's Book of Martyrs
Creator
Joseph Martin Kronheim
I Martyrdom of St. Paul
II Death of Admiral de Coligny
III Assassination of la Place
IV Barnes and his Fellow-Prisoners Seeking Forgiveness
V Latimer before the Council
VI Bradford Appeasing the Riot at St. Paul's Cross
VII Death of Cranmer
VIII Prest's Wife and the Stonemason


Kronheim was a reasonably notable illustrator, even if we don't have an article on him yet. Also, those are the titles of the works: You capitalise each important word of titles. Admittedly, they're in all small-caps in the original, so some ambiguity might exist, but I did follow standard rules for capitalising titles. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 23:55, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think by giving some specific examples of martyrs and the events in their lives that were chosen for special emphasis by Kronheim, you get a much better idea of the book as a whole. The book covers hundreds of martyrs, transitioning rapidly between them, which makes it hard to get an idea of the book from mere description. The images help show the sort of things it emphasises and portrays, and I think it does so reasonably well.
As for an article on Kronheim - we probably should have one; I just don't feel up to creating it just now. Not been sleeping very well. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 19:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks for clarifying. Weak, weak support of a set (would probably be changed if an article on Kronheim was created). Full support individually. SpencerT♦Nominate! 20:03, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If MER-C wants to promote them individually, he may feel free, but I suspect that a set may be slightly easier. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 16:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on EV grounds. The set really only has value for the article on the book, which I think would benefit better from more (and better scanned) woodcuts from the original edition. If I remember correctly, the Victorian editions of the text were fairly heavily edited--in a scholarly sense, these illustrations are later interpretations more than directly representative of the book itself. Chick Bowen 03:43, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What on earth does the edition being abridged have to do with whether the illustrations are indicative of the book's content? There's literally hundreds of martyrs in the book; no edition would have an illustration for every single one. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 11:15, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Because the illustrations are from a substantially different book from the one written about in the article! Chick Bowen 20:21, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, mainly because of the way the nominator has gone around plonking these, let's face it, rather crap Victorian pictures into articles, shoving aside historic images (see Gaspard de Coligny where a Vasari has been booted to the references) and often placing them opposite existing images. I had already removed one from St. Bartholomew's Day massacre, where we already had 3 contemporary images of the assassination of Coligny, & now there are protests from others at Thomas Cranmer, I see. The more obscure ones might be of use, though woodcuts from the early editions are always likely to be preferable, but for example we have many better illustrations for the martyrdom of St Paul. The article Pierre de la Place has been created by the nom for the picture, but though he was supposedly a duke, it is sourced only from Foxe! In fact the long French article [25] makes it clear he was a bourgeois lawyer and writer - not a duke, so forget Kronheim's fancy court dress - with a long career. Johnbod (talk) 11:55, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If the Vasari wasn't only available at 150 × 506 pixels, with Gaspard himself taking up maybe 50 by 50 of said pixels, I'd have left it where it was. As it is, it's a very, very bad reproduction of what would be a notable artwork. I thought the new one had the advantage of actually making it clear which person Gaspard is meant to be.
I feel no need to defend myself for making stubs. This is a collaborative project, and you are, of course, welcome to improve the articles, however, I lacked better sources to hand, so decided to simply start the work, and maybe come back to it later. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 17:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's not really good enough - it took 20 seconds to find out that "Prest's Wife", a similar stub, was called Agnes Prest etc. I've now moved it. Mixing this sort of thing with featured content doesn't work. Johnbod (talk) 17:55, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You evidently have better sources than I: I spent 30 minutes checking online, with no luck. Anyway, featured pictures are completely separate from featured articles. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 17:57, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Google search on "Prest Exeter"! [26] Johnbod (talk) 18:03, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, see, I didn't stumble on that combination: I tried the hometown Foxe gives, no luck, I tried Prest's wife, etc, etc. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 18:04, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No consensus MER-C 09:33, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original - Bluebottle fly (Calliphora vomitoria)
Crop
Reason
Good lighting, particularly clear illustration of mouth parts. The flower it was feeding from has a fairly unpleasant odour, but I haven't identified that yet.
Articles this image appears in
Blue bottle fly
Creator
Noodle snacks

Crop me please. MER-C 09:41, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Calliphora_vomitoria_crop.jpg ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 06:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - El Palau de les Arts Reina Sofía (Queen Sofia Palace of the Arts in English) in Valencia, Spain
Reason
High res, detailed, appropriate angle and composition, lighting at night allows the architecture to stand out.
Articles this image appears in
Palau de les Arts Reina Sofía
Creator
User:Diliff

Promoted File:El Palau de les Arts Reina Sofía, Valencia - Jan 2007.jpg MER-C 02:51, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Coop Himmelb(l)au's BMW Welt - english:BMW World at night
Reason
Detailed and high quality panorama, shows the lighting of the building very well
Articles this image appears in
BMW Welt, Coop Himmelb(l)au
Creator
Richard Bartz

Promoted File:BMW Welt Night.jpg MER-C 02:51, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original 1 - A. muscaria, Button
Original 2 - A. muscaria, Immature
Original 3 - Mature A. muscaria, Mature, Some of the white spots may be washed off with rain
Reason
Good quality and lighting. Nominating as a set. All three have enc, showing different stages of growth.
Articles this image appears in
Amanita muscaria
Creator
Noodle snacks
  • Support per JMilburn. Sasata (talk) 22:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose three-piece, support either earlier stage with the mature mushroom. My feeling is that I don't get different EV with the two earlier stage pictures. I'd prefer to drop the first one, it has the worse composition. I would also support either of the other two (2 or 3) on their own (they should be promoted either as a pair or a singleton, not both). Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 23:10, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • The buttons in image 1 are about the same size as the one just visible on the left of image 2. Casliber, who did a lot of work on the article, was asking around for a picture of a button before this image was taken. I think that the first image has definite EV. Noodle snacks (talk) 05:55, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • I agree. Those things are tiny, and it's a quality image that illustrates well what they actually look like. Unless you dig them up (which obviously wouldn't fit with this set) that's all you're going to really get. J Milburn (talk) 19:10, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose 3-piece I agree with Papa Lima Whiskey. I do not like the first image, as it doesn't look like FA quality, but the second two are great pictures of the mushrooms in their natural environment, and I would definitely support those 2 on their own. hmwithτ 13:42, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Original 2 / 3., Weak oppose Original 1. late vote - change of heart. Individually, 2 and 3 are of sufficient quality and EV. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 12:17, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted No prejudice to individual nomination. MER-C 02:51, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, lets it now rather than later. Promoted Image:Amanita muscaria Marriott Falls 1.jpg and File:Amanita muscaria After Rain.jpg. MER-C 12:45, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - The USS Iowa (BB-61) performs a full broadside with her guns after her modernization in the 1980's
Reason
The combination of excellent resolution, color and texture warrants a FP for this outstanding work. It grabs your attention looking at it, and it does a good job on the Battleship article as a "hook". Even the other Iowa picture (the FP one) would not work in the same context. It is in the Public Domain as a work of the US Navy.
Articles this image appears in
Battleship, USS Iowa (BB-61)
Creator
PH1 Jeff Hilton (Photographer's Mate 1st class)

Not promoted MER-C 02:51, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A map of the San Francisco – Oakland Bay Bridge, showing the original bridge and proposed eastern span replacement. The bridge is a multi-structure toll bridge complex that spans San Francisco Bay and links the California cities of Oakland and San Francisco in the United States, as part of Interstate 80. It carries approximately 270,000 vehicles per day.
Reason
The map is high-quality, high-resolution, and has good detail and enc. The first nomination (of the PNG version) is here and the second nomination is here.
Articles this image appears in
San Francisco – Oakland Bay Bridge (PNG version used)
Creator
Alexrk
Hopefully, the voters. The 1st nom had issues with the image that were fixed (such as the creation of an SVG version), and old votes opposing earlier editions were not amended. The 2nd nom only had 2 votes besides the nominator, both of which were supports. SpencerT♦Nominate! 21:28, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 02:52, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Tent caterpillars are moderately sized species. Tent caterpillars hatch from their eggs in the early spring.The tent is constructed at a site that intercepts the early morning sun. The tent consists of discrete layers of silk separated by gaps and the temperature in these compartments varies markedly.
Original no edit
Reason
High resolution, good quality image, which shows caterpillars both inside and outsite the tent
Articles this image appears in
Tent caterpillar
Creator
Mbz1
File:Tent caterpillar no artifacts.JPG
Without CA (original)
With CA (nominee)
Could you please tell me, where you see them? Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Pretty much everywhere. If you zoom in, they are very bad compared to normal grainness. This was probably caused by inappropriate edits. If you still have the original, then there is a chance of fixing it with more caution about artifacts. ZooFari 23:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I still cannot see CA, but I uploaded what seems to be my original File:Tent caterpillar original.jpg. Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm... they are definitely CA. The original doesn't have none. It must have been an edit that caused the manipulation. Try nominating the original... ZooFari 00:43, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well,I did, but I am still not sure about CA. Do you see them on Caterpillars or on the bush? Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 00:11, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Here... I have posted a comparison guide to show the difference between the original and bad CA. ZooFari 00:43, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Well. I believed it was some noise, and I believed it was not such a big problem. The resolution of the image is much higher than required. It could have been down sampled, but I simply withdraw the nomination.--Mbz1 (talk) 01:10, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Are you sure? That original seems pretty good. Don't get discouraged. If you can edit the white balance (seems cloudy) without causing CA, I think it has some good chances for either FP or VP. I think the CA was caused by over sharpening. ZooFari 01:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it is compression artifacts at all - it doesn't look like what I know jpeg artifacting to be. It looks more like patterns of noise exacerbated by strong sharpening. The sharpening is a bit strong and unnecessary if you ask me though. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 14:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Diliff, for taking your time to look and to comment on the withdrawn nomination! I uploaded a new version over the first file. I hope it is better. --Mbz1 (talk) 18:04, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think there is unecessary confusion here as ZooFari is using the acronym CA to refer to compression artifacts, but the abbreviation CA is commonly used in photography to refer to Chromatic Abberation which is a unwanted color shift created in poorly designed/corrected or just plain cheap lenses , and that may be what Mkz1 expected you meant by CA? I can't see any Chromatic Abberation for sure, and agree with Diliff that it looks like overcooked sharpening of inherent noise. Mfield (Oi!) 01:39, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I agree that it is oversharpened. It seems like this because the resolution is higher than necessary, thus zoomed too close that they seem like compression artifacts (by the way, CA in my comments ment compression artifacts). The grain gets sharpened as well creating these unwanted patterns, as Diliff mentioned. This creates a problem in thumbnails, so perhaps the version that's not oversharpened is better. ZooFari 01:52, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well this CA whatever it was is gone now in both the edit of the original and the original no edit, so may I please ask you, ZooFari to change the oppose reason? Just for me to learn my mistakes for the feature. Thank you for your time.--Mbz1 (talk) 05:26, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I'm going to commit to this one. The image quality at 100% isn't ideal, but it's a fascinating scene and the detail is enough to get an idea of the overall subject, even if not the individual caterpillars. In this case I think the enc gets it over the line. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 16:45, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support it is much better now. ZooFari 19:00, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Seems alright. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you went back to the original when you prepared the second version (i.e. the one uploaded over the original edited "original" - yes, your naming could be better, or your upload strategy, whichever). Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 23:20, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the edit was made out of the original not of the edit. Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 03:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Western tent caterpillars Malacosoma californicum in Joshua Tree NP.jpg MER-C 02:52, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - 1876 membership certificate for the Independent Order of B'nai B'rith, the oldest Jewish service organisation in the world.
Reason
While I disagreed with Durova's colour choices, I think the underlying work has merit, and is important for countering systemic bias. Luckily, Durova believes in making her work accessible to other restorationists, thus I was able to go to a partially-finished restoration, and rework from there. I believe this is a more accurate colour scheme - brown ink was a common ink colour, for instance, squid ink or sepia, so there's no reason to presume brown is wrong - and I also left in some clear signs of paper grain, which I think makes it look better.
Articles this image appears in
B'nai B'rith
Creator
Louis Kurz

Promoted File:B'nai B'rith membership certificate 1876.jpg MER-C 02:52, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - 3D tomographical reconstruction of a Parapoxvirus virus, by TEM, as obtained from a sheep's oral mucosa
Reason
Image is from an open access journal publication, showing how transmission electron microscopy can be used in conjunction with tomography to create 3D images of nanoscale objects, essential to sciences such as virology for the understanding of disease vectors.
Articles this image appears in
Transmission electron microscopy
Creator
Jan Mast and Lien Demeestere, EM-unit, CODA-CERVA; Published in [27].
How about:
3D tomographical reconstruction of a Parapoxvirus by TEM, as obtained from a sheep's oral mucosa. The virus sample was dispersed onto a support film and stained with uranyl acetate, in order to selectively bind to the viral protein; the rectangular background is excess stain from the cropped 3D section.
Works! Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 14:01, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No consensus=>Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 04:46, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Act 3, Scene 6 (the ballet at the camp of le Cid) from Jules Massenet's Le Cid, as performed in the original production. From L'Illustration's coverage of the première.
Reason
While not quite as good as the Act 2, Scene 3 image a bit further down this page, I still think this is an excellent image of the premiere production of the opera, and the encyclopedic value makes up for some minor, but not really fixable, streaking in the sky.
Articles this image appears in
Le Cid (opera)
Creator
Auguste Tilly

Needs further input from established reviewers. Please don't close this in the meantime without asking me. MER-C 13:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Promoted File:Jules Massenet - Le Cid 3e Acte, 6e Tableau - L'Illustration.jpg MER-C 10:16, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Close-up of Siegmund Breitbart, modern day Samson, in November 1923. Breitbart is pulling a heavy weight with his teeth, a classic strongman routine
Not for voting - unrestored original
Reason
Portrait of Siegmund Breitbart, showing a close-up of a classic strongman routine.
Articles this image appears in
Zishe Breitbart
Creator
unknown photographer, restored by Michel Vuijlsteke

Promoted File:Siegmund Breitbart2.jpg MER-C 10:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Frontispiece to W. Dugdale's c. 1825 edition of Childe Harold's Pilgrimage:

Lo! where the Giant on the mountain stands,
His blood-red tresses deep'ning in the sun,
With death-shot glowing in his fiery hands,
And eye that scorcheth all it glares upon;
Restless it rolls, now fixed, and now anon
Flashing a far,—and at his iron feet
Destruction cowers to mark what deeds are done.
For on this morn three potent nations meet,
To shed before his shrine the blood he deems most sweet.
Reason
Byron. Really, what more needs said?
Articles this image appears in
Childe Harold's Pilgrimage, George Gordon Byron, 6th Baron Byron
Creator
I. H. Jones


Not promoted MER-C 10:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Detail of the Padrão dos Descobrimentos (Monument to the Portuguese Discoveries) showing the mathematician and cosmographer Pedro Nunes with an armillary sphere. To his left, Jácome de Maiorca (Catalan cosmographer and chart maker) and Pedro Escobar (navigator); to his right, Pêro de Alenquer (navigator), Gil Eanes (navigator) and João Gonçalves Zarco (navigator). Sculptures by Leopoldo de Almeida, architectutal design by Cottinelli Telmo.
Reason
Very high resolution image illustrating part of a well-known contemporary masterpiece. The size, number of figures and detail of the monument justifies IMO partial illustrations like this one. The picture is a panorama of three photos
Articles this image appears in
Pedro Nunes, Padrão dos Descobrimentos
Creator
Alvesgaspar (talk)

Not promoted MER-C 10:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Springsteen performing on the Tunnel of Love Express at the Radrennbahn Weißensee in East Berlin on July 19, 1988.
Reason
Mostly, it's quite striking, but there is an interesting historical aside. This photo was from a concert in East Berlin that fell right between Reagan's "tear down this wall" and the destruction of the wall. The resolution may not be the best, but there's an amazing amount of clarity in what pixels it does have. No regions are too black, no too white, and the depth of field is great.
Articles this image appears in
Bruce Springsteen, Number-one albums of 1985 (U.S.), Tunnel of Love Express Tour, List of baritones in non-classical music
Creator
Thomas Uhlemann

Not promoted MER-C 10:18, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - The Tower of Belém, in Lisbon, was built in the sixteenth century, under king Manuel I, to commemorate the voyage of Vasco da Gama to India. Its style, known as Manueline, is a late gothic of Portuguese origin incorporating ornamental elements from the discovery ships and voyages
Alternative
Reason
detailed and high quality panorama of a well-known monument. The issues of last nomination (twin tourists and stichting errors) have been addressed with a brand new panorama
Articles this image appears in
Tower of Belém, Manueline
Creator
Alvesgaspar (talk)

Promoted File:Torre Belém April 2009-4a.jpg MER-C 10:18, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A German Hannover CL.III shot down on October 4, 1918 by American machine gunners in the Argonne during World War I.
Reason
I listed this at PPR first. It only got one comment but that said to attempt a nom, so here I am. Anyway, like I said there, I think this picture is of good quality considering its age, has high EV, and a definate "wow factor".
Articles this image appears in
Meuse-Argonne Offensive, Aviation in World War I, Hannover CL.III
Creator
Pvt. J. E. Gibbon (Uploaded by Cobatfor)


Not promoted MER-C 10:18, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Thomas Edison circa 1922
Not for voting - Unrestored original for comparison
Reason
Reasonably high resolution image of Thomas Edison. I was surprised there was no high resolution portrait of him on Wikipedia.
Articles this image appears in
Thomas Edison
Creator
Unknown photographer, restored by Michel Vuijlsteke

Promoted File:Thomas Edison2.jpg MER-C 10:18, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Image
Out of respect for users, this image is not presented here since it is a clear representation of the head of a human male penis. While Wikipedia is not censored, this is done as a courtesy. To see the image, please see File:Hirsuties papillaris coronae glandis.jpg.
Caption
Hirsuties papillaris genitalis on a circumcised human penis.
Reason
Beautiful image quality, perfect example of the article material. Extremely helpful.
Articles this image appears in
Pearly_penile_papules
Creator
de:User:Ernesto Che Guevara
Nice job, Wade. ZooFari 00:42, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, I'd like to point out that the penis in question is definetly NOT diseased, as you would know if you had read the article, but more importantly, an FP doesn't need to be on the main page. Some FA's, like on porn-stars or overly technical subjects, are never on the main page, for example. Communist47 (talk) 21:57, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry if the word is not accurate. I did read the article, which talks about lesions and clinical skin condition which I can only interpret as an abnormal or non-desired situation. Anyway, the exact definiton of disease is not the main point here. The way I see it (and I may be wrong, of course) the nomination would lose most of its interest if the subject were a carrot or a turnip and would only pass if its quality, beauty or EV were absolutely exceptional. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 22:40, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Except I think it's worth noting that unlike a carrot or turnip, getting a high-res photo of a papuled penis isn't exactly the easiest task. Communist47 (talk) 01:14, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: Many thanks to Wadester16 for hiding the image from this page. Considering I first came aross this nomination while at work, I owe him one! As to the image itself, I agree with Wadester16 that it's a little harsh and the shadow is offputting. Personally though, what kills it for me is that I would prefer the subject itself to be a little cleaner. To avoid any lengthy discussions about whether or not it's appropriate to make it "artificially" clean, I will point out now that I have considered this point already, and have concluded that, as most people bathe regularly, having a cleaner specimen is neither abnormal nor unexpected. I get the impression that this was a snapshot without any "preparation", as it were, which I think would have been appropriate in this case. I agree that it's an interesting subject, though, and not one you would normally find illustrated, so I might support another try. Maedin\talk 06:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • How would preperation be appropriate? It's a high-res zoom shot of a penis. It's going to have smegma on it. It would lose its encyclopedic value if the penis was completely clean. Communist47 (talk) 16:39, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, I happen to disagree. As I explained, I don't think it's unusual or abnormal for a penis to be regularly washed. I don't see how it's unencyclopaedic for the subject to have been photographed after a shower, instead of before. Maedin\talk 06:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 10:18, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - The Dryad's saddle, mushroom species Polyporus squamosus
Reason
I hope this one appeals to the photo gurus: it's high-resolution, attractive, and clearly shows details of the cap, and (unlike most other available pics of this species) the stem as well. Personally, it's the coolest photo I've seen of this species (compare others at Commons), and free for us to use!
Articles this image appears in
Polyporus squamosus
Creator
Dan Molter, over at Mushroom Observer

Promoted File:Polyporus squamosus Molter.jpg MER-C 10:18, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Male Albino Alligator. Albinism is seen all over the skin and in the eyes
Reason
Good quality and high resolution image of a rare Albino Alligator with great EV
Articles this image appears in
Albinism;Alligator
Creator
Mbz1
Yes, I believe he is. By the way it was really hard to capture him with the eyes open. He keeps them closed almost all the time. All albinos with albinism in the eyes have problems looking at light.Thank you.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:33, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your comment,Noodle snacks. Yes, we are sure that the alligator is albino. Here's the quote from leucism
"A further difference between albinism and leucism is in eye colour. Due to the lack of melanin production in both the retinal pigmented epithelium (RPE) and iris, albinos typically have red eyes due to the underlying blood vessels showing through. In contrast, leucistic animals have normally coloured eyes."
The color of the eyes of this alligator is anything, but normal. Besides you could take a look at official California Academy site.--Mbz1 (talk) 12:45, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Albino Alligator 2008.jpg MER-C 10:19, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Extreme close up view of a Gonia capitata, tachinid fly.
Reason
Good quality, EV and wow. Already featured on commons and german wiki.
Articles this image appears in
Tachinidae, List of Tachinidae genera and species, Proboscis, Insect mouthparts
Creator
Richard Bartz

Promoted File:Tachina fly Gonia capitata feeding honey.jpg MER-C 11:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Space radar image of Sakurajima stratovolcano, located in Kagoshima Prefecture, Japan. Among the most active volcanoes in the world, Sakurajima last erupted in March 2009. Formerly an island, an eruption connected the mass to the Japanese mainland. It is a Decade Volcano. The colors of the image can be attributed to different frequencies and polarizations of the radar as follows: "red is L-band vertically transmitted, vertically received; green is the average of L-band vertically transmitted, vertically received and C-band vertically transmitted, vertically received; blue is C-band vertically transmitted, vertically received."
Reason
Striking, high resolution picture, also very encyclopedic subject.
Articles this image appears in
Sakurajima, Aira Caldera
Creator
Space Shuttle Endeavour's Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR)


Not promoted MER-C 11:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - From left; Perrier carbonated water, Classic Coke, Sprite, and Diet Coke with 5 plain Mentos drops. Diet Coke presented a height about 2.5m. Each green mark is .5 meters
Reason
Image is only moderately eye-catching, but very illustrative of the article and high resolution.
Articles this image appears in
Diet Coke and Mentos eruption
Creator
K.Shimada

Not promoted MER-C 11:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Graphomya eustolia fly of family muscidae. The fly was app 8mm long. Pictured in the Uluguru Mountains
Edit 1 Crop and NR on shadow
Reason
Good quality, EV, well identified.
Articles this image appears in
Muscidae, Mydaeinae, Graphomya
Creator
Muhammad

Promoted File:Graphomya eustolia crop.jpg MER-C 11:52, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Marriage portrait of Isaac Abrahamsz Massa (1586-1643) and Beatrix van der Laen (1592-1639), married in Haarlem on 25 April 1622
Reason
High resolution, quality image of 17th century painting by Frans Hals showing a double portrait of a newly wed couple from Haarlem, Holland.
Articles this image appears in
Rijksmuseum Amsterdam, Frans Hals, Isaac Massa
Creator
Frans Hals

Promoted File:Frans Hals - Wedding portrait of Isaac Abrahamsz Massa and Beatrix van der Laan.jpg MER-C 11:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A Midsummer Nights Dream act IV, scene I. Titania, with fairies in attendance. Engraving from a painting by Henry Fuseli, published 1796.
Reason
Working one step closer to an FP for each of Shakespeare's plays. Very high resolution. Restored version of File:Midsummer Night's Dream Henry Fuseli.jpg. Downsampled courtesy copy at File:Midsummer Night's Dream Henry Fuseli2 courtesy copy.jpg.
Articles this image appears in
A Midsummer Night's Dream, Titania
Creator
Henry Fuseli, artist. J. P. Simon, engraver.
To some extent, yes, but it always seems a little weird to turn a colour image into black and white, unless you're going to go another step further and lose the paper grain. You lose a bit of wow and make the original look like a reproduction. (Of course, this doesn't apply to images with actual coloured ink and the like, where going to white helps bring out the original intended colours.) I don't think Durova's actual restoration is in doubt. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:03, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
When you print, the original colour of the paper is white. Paper does have a grain so these two things are not connected. When we restore pictures, we do not lose information like paper grain but we should lose what was not there in the first place. GerardM (talk) 08:02, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I've taken the liberty of upping the image size - at 250px, it's just too darn small. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:09, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. There's just a couple of issues that perhaps could be fixed: a rust spot on the floating fairy's hand, and some weird blueish discoloration here and there left over from the original stains in the paper I guess (most noticeable in the top left hand corner over the vines, and on the leaf to the right of the leaf in the left bottom corner). Oh, and as long as I'm picking nits: about a third of the left hand white border is much brighter than the rest of the border -- also left-over from the original discoloration I guess. -- Michel Vuijlsteke (talk)
  • Support The issues mentioned by Michel V. should probably be fixed if its easy enough.Noodle snacks (talk) 12:20, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Nice restoration. Sophus Bie (talk) 10:09, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Midsummer Night's Dream Henry Fuseli2.jpg MER-C 11:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - The Teatro Lirico Giuseppe Verdi, in Trieste, Italy
Edit1 Corrected pincusion and perspective distortions w/slight rotate. Mitigate CA, recrop.
Edit2 - Just pincushion distortion tackled. Cropped.
Reason
A fine image of the outside of the theatre. Greatly adds to the (admittedly as yet not fully developed) article.
Articles this image appears in
Teatro Giuseppe Verdi, Busseto
Creator
Commons:User:Zapping
Sorry. I made the mistake of presuming the image's category was the correct name of the theatre. Was trying to see if we had good opera house images. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 11:34, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Not promoted MER-C 11:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Illustration of the mechanical process executed by a sewing machine to create a lockstitch.
Reason
This gif displays the lockstitch method, a form of stiching used to sew. It was invented in 1833 by Walter Hunt, and is used by most household and factory sewing machines.
Articles this image appears in
Sewing machine and Lockstitch
Creator
NikolayS
  • Comment. Can anyone recommend me an editor who can slow it down? I am, admittedly, unfamiliar with this process. Synergy 21:13, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support GerardM (talk) 12:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Oppose Good EV but it's too fast. Makeemlighter (talk) 02:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support - A clear depiction of the process, not too fast IMO. But it lacks some sophistication in the drawing. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 09:10, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional support. Informative, speed seems OK to me. Conditional because image page needs a (decent) English description for enWiki. --jjron (talk) 14:27, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • I had both translated; the de was mechanism of a sewing machine and fr was Animation showing how a sewing machine works. So combined with mine I wrote An animated representation of the inter workings of a sewing machine, using the lockstitch method. If someone had something better in mind, go for it. :) Synergy 22:21, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • I don't know about the subject so can't help out - and I know this goes beyond the original foreign captions - but it'd be nice if someone that did actually know about it named/described the key parts & actions illustrated.--jjron (talk) 07:25, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • The only part I don't know is the thing in the middle spinning, but it should be named on the article (if it isn't I'll add it in). The other parts are: cloth, thread, and a needle (I thought it would have been redundant to add that into the caption though, maybe I'm wrong?) And I went a bit further than the de and fr caption, because they were way too basic. Synergy 20:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
          • Eh, I don't think a lot of that 'basic' information is redundant for an image page. People make a lot assumptions about what is apparently obvious for other people just because they're familiar with a topic themself. And as I said describing the action (not just naming the parts) would be really helpful. For example, with my basic knowledge I can work out that the needle is feeding in the yellow thread, but why does it have that split in it and how is the thread fed into it - some/all of that may be in the article, but I personally think a simple summary on a diagram image page is very useful. Let me put it this way: say you look in a textbook and see a nice looking diagram - do you expect that diagram to have a nice simple caption summarising it, or do you expect to have to hunt through the chapter to find bits of pieces of information and cobble together your own description? Obviously you'd be thinking the book was pretty shonky if you had to do the latter, yet people seem to think the equivalent is perfectly fine, not just for Wikipedia, but for our FPs which are supposedly the best of the best. Hmmm, worth thinking about... --jjron (talk) 05:30, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose What's missing here is a clear demonstration of how the loop of yellow can go all the way around the ball of green thread, in spite of gravity. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 14:02, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's not a schematic of a sewing machine ;-) Both elements (the green spool and the yellow catching thing (I don't sew)) are held in place. Obviously, if they weren't, they'd fall to Earth... or whatever is at the bottom of a gif :-p Xavexgoem (talk) 13:32, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm not sure you understood. The topology cannot work as shown. The illustration is not rational. It is incomplete. Two pieces of string, one of which is an unbroken loop, can only cross once and only once if the loop goes around one of the end pieces of the second piece of string. Exactly how it goes around the end piece of the other piece of string is not shown here. This illustration does not satisfy the criterion of completeness, which is a serious flaw. I would guess that it won't be easy to show the entire process in anything less than a 3D illustration, but that's probably irrelevant to this particular nomination. It's possible that this is the same problem that KP Botany is describing below. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 00:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • This editor is correct that something is missing. This is an illustration of a design that requires the bobbin (the spool upon which the green thread is wound) to be free spinning inside a stationary case that holds it, and is not attached to the machine, and the whole bobbin case with bobbin is inserted into a spinning mechanism in the machine, the part the hook is on. Without the information that the bobbin case is free from the machine but stationary while the bobbin is free spinning and the hook is spinning around this, a mechanically inclined reader will look at the illustration and say, WTF? --KP Botany (talk) 10:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I am not familiar with the subject but the demonstration and the caption are both pretty clear to me. - Alsandro · T · w:ka: Th · T 01:04, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom Xavexgoem (talk) 13:32, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support very informative. Matt Deres (talk) 00:09, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional support Oppose for now if the weird shape of the fabric thread when it is picked up by the bobbin hook is changed, it should just be linear, it doesn't hook around one of the forks of the hook, but is carried in the center of the hook around the entire bobbin mechanism. This illustration is of the mechanism used on domestic sewing machines or home sewing machines to create lockstiches, the most common type of joining stitch in the most common type of home sewing machines. The yellow thread is the upper thread that is carried by the sewing machine needle from a spool usually on top of the machine and through the top of the fabric to give a little loop beneath the fabric and the green thread is held on a bobbin which is held in a casing in the machine just underneath the point where the needle thread enters the fabric and the bobbin integrates with the hook in the entire bobbin mechanism that carries the fabric thread around the bobbin allowing the lockstitch to be created. It was invented in the middle of the nineteenth century, and if you look at old and modern home sewing machines they are pretty much the same. If the tension of the fabric thread and the tension of the bobbin thread are both adjusted correctly and the feed dogs (grippers that run up in plates that separate the bobbin mechanism from the needle and which feed the fabric evenly through the machine are feeding properly for the fabric the lockstich will appear the same on the top of the fabric and the bottom of the fabric (assuming a single piece or two similar pieces of fabric). I don't know the correct names of anything, but I could probably find them out. Don't we have a diagram of a sewing machine on Wikipedia? Anyway, that's how it works. --KP Botany (talk) 05:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • SupportJake Wartenberg 03:12, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is anyone going to edit this one? MER-C 08:31, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 11:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Jaffa-Jerusalem railway circa 1890s: French rolling stock, Belgian rails and the first Jerusalem Railway station
Not for voting - unrestored original
Reason
The Jaffa–Jerusalem railway was inaugurated in Ottoman Palestine in 1892. It is considered to be the first Middle Eastern railway. The man principally responsible for actually construction the railroad was Joseph Navon, a Jewish entrepreneur from Jerusalem. This image illustrates rolling stock brought from France, rails from Belgium, and the first railway station in Jerusalem in the background.
Articles this image appears in
Jaffa-Jerusalem railway
Creator
American Colony Jerusalem, restored by Michel Vuijlsteke
  • Support as nominator --Michel Vuijlsteke (talk) 19:33, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – not sure I should !vote here, because I requested the restoration (and thank Michel very much for fulfilling the request!), but will do so anyway, along with a further clarification of the significance of this picture:
Basically, this is one of the very few high-quality freely-availabe pictures clearly showing coaches and a loco in pre-WWI Palestine. Certainly the only one such picture I have encountered in digital format. Even more important because most railway enthusiasts seem to take more interest in rolling stock than railway infrastructure, and because railway documentation from that period is practically non-existent (noted in: Cotterell, Paul (1986): The Railways of Palestine and Israel). If I may quote Anthony Travis (PhD in history and faculty member at the HUJI), who wrote a book about this railway, from an e-mail he sent me a few days ago: Probably the best picture for detail of the coaches. In short, the picture is unique and very detailed. —Ynhockey (Talk) 20:04, 18 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Promoted File:Jerusalem Railway Station2.jpg MER-C 11:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



[[Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Statue of Cuauhtémoc|Statue of Cuauhtémoc in Mexico]]

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Original - Statue of Cuauhtémoc, the last sovereign ruler of the Aztec empire.
Reason
It is an attractive image of an important figure in the history of the Americas.
Articles this image appears in
Cuauhtémoc, Monarchies in the Americas
Creator
pacomexico


Way too small => Not promoted MER-C 11:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Silver Banksia (Banksia marginata), Immature Spike Left, Mature Spike Right
Reason
I nominated the left hand side a day or two ago, but I was alerted to the fact that the flower hadn't actually opened yet. I went back and got a second photo and this composite is the result.
Articles this image appears in
Banksia marginata
Creator
Noodle snacks

Promoted File:Banksia marginata immature and mature.jpg MER-C 11:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A male Lipotriches sp. bee of family Halictidae and subfamily Nomiinae, commonly called Sweat bee. The bee was about 6mm long. Pictured in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania.
Reason
Good quality, Ev and aesthetics. Bee caught carrying pollen which is what most people associate bees with, after honey. No other pictures of the genus on wiki.
Articles this image appears in
Halictidae, Sweat bee, Lipotriches, Pollinator
Creator
Muhammad
  • Support as nominator --Muhammad(talk) 10:03, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Remarkably detailed for so small a subject. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 11:43, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Head is out of focus - this should be in focus at the expense of other features (unless those features are the subject of the illustration. In this case the shot is front focused (legs are in focus instead of head). --Fir0002 00:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Most of the head is in focus. For something this small, getting a perfect focus from the tiny viewfinder is very difficult as it is, without the pesky mosquitoes desperately searching for dinner. In this picture however, the yellow bands across the abdomen are distinctive to this genus and very informative in differentiating males from females. I think this addresses your concerns as the bands are more important to be shown than the head. --Muhammad(talk) 03:39, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: I think this is excellently-caught, Muhammad. The beads of pollen are fascinating, as well as the bee itself. Maedin\talk 11:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 04:59, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just to avoid prejudice against this image, I think it should actually say "no consensus" above. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 14:27, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Ropalidia sp wasp pictured in Kibaha, Tanzania. It was about 15mm long.
Reason
Good quality, Ev and aesthetics. The previous lead image was much smaller and watermarked.
Articles this image appears in
Ropalidiini, Ropalidia
Creator
Muhammad

Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 04:59, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - McWay Falls is an 80 foot waterfall located in Julia Pfeiffer Burns State Park. The falls cascades to the sandy beach of McWay cove. In a high tide Pacific comes so close to the falls that some people consider McWay Falls to be tidefalls.
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Reason
This image is high resolution, good quality and has big EV.
Articles this image appears in
McWay Falls; Cove; Julia Pfeiffer Burns State Park
Creator
Mbz1
Thank you for you vote, Noodle snacks. I do agree that the fall is small, yet the image shows that the falls cascades to the beach, and this is where EV is. It shows how close the falls and the ocean are and why the falls is tidefalls. The falls by itself is not so strong and not so special, the place is. Besides I do have the close up of the falls in the other versions.--Mbz1 (talk) 14:10, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16«talkstalk» 04:59, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A blue iris
Reason
Passes the criteria, in my opinion
Articles this image appears in
eye colour
Creator
8thstar

* Support as nominator --Ironholds (talk) 13:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC) Gah, I wasn't aware of the previous nom. I'd like to withdraw this thing (although it doesn't reflect very well on me, but what the hell); anyone know how I can do that? Ironholds (talk) 06:02, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 11:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Mantis Rhombodera basalis
Reason
No other images of this species, quality, high resolution
Articles this image appears in
Rhombodera_basalis
Creator
Luc Viatour (talk)

Not promoted MER-C 11:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Map of the Bay Area Rapid Transit in San Francisco Bay Area, California
Reason
A very high quality map which imo is one of the best metro maps on Wikipedia. Even better than FP File:Madrid-metro-map.png I think.
Articles this image appears in
Bay Area Rapid Transit, List of Bay Area Rapid Transit stations
Creator
CountZ
  • Support as nominator --—Chris! ct 18:16, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - highly illustrative --Thanks, Hadseys 20:46, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: Why is the coast-line so "jigsaw puzzle" like? Apparently this is a version of this map, which I think is superior in terms of the actual geography of the place. Plus, the original has more detail in the lines of the metro. Compare, for example, the yellow line branching to the upper right. I'm sorry, but I think too much has been lost between these two versions. Just pointing out another example, the line shown to Richmond and the Richmond destination look very different on the original. Which is more accurate? Maedin\talk 11:49, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, this map is showing the simplified version of the metro system, which of course does not necessarily follow the actual geography. I personally think that a high quality metro map is supposed to illustrate the system clearly, not the geography. If you like to see the actual geography from a simple metro map, you are asking too much IMO.—Chris! ct 20:04, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I didn't know that File:Sf-new-map-present1.gif exists. That is a great one showing the entire transit system in SF Bay Area.—Chris! ct 01:26, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I also have a map of the VTA system that I uploaded that's smaller size, if you're looking for something stylish. CountZ (talk) 22:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Much prefer the map of the entire area that's linked above. The one Maedin links to is better as well. Makeemlighter (talk) 06:14, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Not the best, given the image pointed by Countz. Would support that one instead.Ksempac (talk) 13:19, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • To Both: Based on the current FP criteria, the map of the entire area will fail for sure because of criteria 5 "Adds value to an article". Its enormous size prevents it from being used in articles. I think this image already fulfilled the criteria nicely.
      To Makeemlighter: I am not convince that the one Maedin linked is better.—Chris! ct 18:19, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose File:Bart-map.svg communicates more clearly. BTW, there are at least two things screwy with the sourcing info. The page with sourcing info seems to have been blanket deleted by Majorly without checking what links to it (but possibly there was never any info there in the first place; regardless, fixing and/or commenting on links would seem to be a no-brainer). Furthermore, the image description was copy-pasted from that other image, File:Bart-map.svg. It's difficult to see how the nominated image is "based on" File:Caltrain map.svg. In conclusion, neither image provides any sources, but at least File:Bart-map.svg and File:Caltrain map.svg comprise a matching set, whereas this image stands out as a low-contrast, tiny-icons ugly duckling in a case where, in contrast to more complex metro and tram systems elsewhere, showing a proportional map actually adds value. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 11:59, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure exactly why you think File:Bart-map.svg is more clear. To me, it isn't. Also I am quite surprised to see that you oppose base entirely on the incorrect info on the image page. New user may not necessarily know how to upload images and will certainly make mistakes. In any case, I fix it up. And I stand by my opinion that this is better and this is not a "low-contrast, tiny-icons ugly duckling" as you have described.—Chris! ct 00:51, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I am likewise quite surprised to see that you comment on my evaluation without apparently having read it, since I believe I commented extensively on the reasons for opposing. To make things easier for you in future, I've now put the relevant passages in bold. Thank you. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 08:57, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 11:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - The Pagoda of Fogong Temple, a Chinese wooden pagoda of Shanxi province that was built in 1056 AD during the Khitan-led Liao Dynasty, which at the time controlled a significant portion of northeastern China.
Reason
I believe this meets all the criteria, including no technical errors, no image manipulation, is well over 1,000 px, and demonstrates the topic in an encyclopedic but interesting way.
Articles this image appears in
11th century, Liao Dynasty, Shanxi, Pagoda, Chinese architecture, Emperor Daozong of Liao, Chinese pagoda, 1050s in architecture, Architecture of the Song Dynasty, Pagoda of Fogong Temple, Khitan people
Creator
Gisling
Hmm. Perhaps it could, but I don't think that should detract much from its quality.--Pericles of AthensTalk 02:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Generally, if a minor edit can make a very good image even better, it should be made: FPC is the best of the best, so as long as the edits don't cause harm, there's no reason not to do it. I'd do it myself, but photographs are not my speciality, so I don't like to meddle where others can do it better =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 15:17, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, this is all under the assumption that rotating it ~.5 counterclockwise will in fact make the picture look better. However, I wouldn't be opposed to the idea, just to see what it looks like.--Pericles of AthensTalk 18:54, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support rotation. Looks tilted. Renata (talk) 18:08, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Since every other picture of it in the Pagoda of Fogong Temple also shows it tilted, isn't there a chance that this - near 1000 year old - structure actually is tilted? Guest9999 (talk) 01:14, 26 April 2009 (UTC) But maybe not to the degree in this image... Guest9999 (talk) 01:19, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps. All the sources I used to create this article did not mention it being tilted This is probably because it is only slightly tilted and hence not very significant or worth mentioning (unlike the article for Huqiu Tower, where that pagoda is famous for being tilted).--Pericles of AthensTalk 01:22, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
So...who's up for the challenge of rotating the pic a bit? I am no expert in manipulating images; could someone help out?--Pericles of AthensTalk 01:24, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I attempted to correct the rotation but found it difficult due to the lack of symmetry on either side. It is hard to make any assumptions about what 'straight' is. Even the foundations don't appear to be consistent and flat. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 08:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 11:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Original - Grant from West Point to Appomattox, an 1885 engraving. Clockwise from lower left: Graduation from West Point (1843); In the tower at Chapultepec (1847); Drilling his Volunteers (1861); The Battle of Fort Donelson (1862); The Battle of Shiloh (1862); The Siege of Vicksburg (1863); The Battle of Chattanooga (1863); Appointment as Commander-in-Chief by Abraham Lincoln (1864); The Surrender of General Robert E. Lee at Appomattox Court House (1865)
Not for voting - Before restoration
Reason
Stunning, high resolution, encyclopedic as heck =)
Articles this image appears in
Ulysses S. Grant, Twelve-pound cannon [Replaced an older, unrestored version]. It, or details taken from the PNG version, could reasonably be added to the various other articles on the battles, I have not done this at present.
Creator
Thure de Thulstrup (1848-1930) for L. Prang & Co., Boston
It's one of the most common arrangements in Victorian art for mass consumption. What am I supposed to do? Not provide contemporary views of Grant? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 01:27, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There doesn't appear to be any shortage of non-montage (?) images of Grant in commons:Category:Ulysses S. Grant - in fact, this seems to be the only one. I note that currently the image has been blown up to 450px in Ulysses S. Grant, making the article look silly even on my uber-widescreen monitor. I can't imagine what it looks like on normal monitors. The problem with this image is that it is not useful at ordinary thumbnail size. Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:49, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 11:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Female Eumerus feae. App 6mm long. Pictured in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania
Reason
Good quality, and EV. Though in only one stub article, there are no other high res images of the species available and the info in the stub is the sum of all the info I could get on it from the web.
Articles this image appears in
Eumerus
Creator
Muhammad

Promoted File:Emerus feae.jpg MER-C 11:24, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Meadow Argus (Junonia villida)
Reason
Compliments the other images in the article, showing it with closed wings (quite a common resting position). The image has good lighting and is very detailed thanks to a focus stack. I don't think that the decayed wingtips are a major issue, it is quite common as butterflies age.
Articles this image appears in
Meadow Argus
Creator
Noodle snacks

Promoted File:Junonia villida tas.jpg MER-C 11:24, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - A scene from Sir Walter Scott's The Bride of Lammermoor
Reason
Great Scott! The Bride of Lammermoor is one of Scott's major works, and Charles Robert Leslie is a noted artist, so the combination makes for great encyclopedic value.
Articles this image appears in
The Bride of Lammermoor, Tales of My Landlord.
Creator
Charles Robert Leslie and J. Cooper.

Promoted File:Charles Robert Leslie - Sir Walter Scott - Ravenswood and Lucy at the Mermaiden's Well - Bride of Lammermoor.jpg MER-C 11:24, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - The 180° rule is a basic guideline in film making that states that two characters (or other elements) in the same scene should always have the same left/right relationship to each other. If the camera passes over the imaginary axis connecting the two subjects, it is called crossing the line. The new shot, from the opposite side, is known as a reverse angle.
Reason
I'm not sure if this diagram is fancy enough to be a FP, but I stumbled upon it and thought it an elegant way of explaining this cinematographic rule.
Articles this image appears in
180 degree rule
Creator
User:Grm wnr


Not promoted MER-C 11:24, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Original - Damage to Richmond, Virginia at the close of the American Civil War. Albumen print, 1865.
Reason
A former capital of the Confederate States of America. Image demonstrates extensive damage at the end of the American Civil War; human figures provide proportions. Restored version of Image:Richmond Virginia damage.jpg.
Articles this image appears in
Richmond, Virginia, Richmond in the American Civil War
Creator
Andrew J. Russell

Promoted File:Richmond Virginia damage2.jpg MER-C 11:24, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]