Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Nosy Komba/archive1

Nosy Komba

Featured article candidates/Nosy Komba/archive1

Nominator(s): Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 01:23, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nosy Komba is small round island between the more famous Nosy Be and the main island of Madagascar. Its name means "Island of Lemurs" and that's sure what its famous for. There is some interesting history, lots of other fun biology, and some fun tidbits about its economy and local tourism industry. It was a little surprising how much information there was about this remote corner of Madagascar. It's also sad what portions - like demographic statistics ( :(((( ) aren't available. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 01:23, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Some comments from Toadspike

The History section begins in the 19th century. Was the island uninhabited before this time?
- Unfortunately, I could find no source (in French or English) which explicitly said this one way or another. Some archaeological work has been done on Nosy-Be studying trade routes and such, but I don't think anything has been done on Nosy Komba. - G
"a local colonial administration named Nosy-Bé et Dépendances, 'Nosy Be and Dependencies'" – I am not sure whether this is the best way to format this. Due to label=none, the literal translation label is hidden. Maybe it would be better to remove the translation from the lang template and put in a Template:Literal translation, but this is up to you.
- Oh,I wasn't aware of that template - added. - G
"Expanding French influence over the region forced Tsiomeko and the Merina to cede a section of coast to France in July 1840, including both islands." – this sentence should be reworded for clarity. On first reading it, I assumed "a section of coast" referred to part of the coast of Nosy Komba, but upon finishing the sentence it became apparent that the coast of Madagascar is implied instead. "The region" is also vague - do you mean Madacascar, the Indian Ocean, southeastern Africa, or something else?
"Both Nosy Be and Nosy Komba became centers of the growing French colonial labor force, from which many were privately-owned slaves leased by the colonial government." – This sentence is also somewhat unclear. The use of "from which" is very confusing. From the island or from the labor force? Also, were the "privately-owned" slaves owned by the locals or French people? If the former, are these the same slaves mentioned in the previous paragraph?
- @Toadspike: Good points - added some more context and reworded stuff. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:59, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Noleander

The island hosts a population of black lemurs; these are protected by local residents. - I was not able to find the "protected" fact in the sources; the Blumgart source "Herpetological diversity across intact.." seems to indicate that deforetation is continuing in 21st century.

I suggest adding a small subsection devoted to Conservation. Especially to hold info such as " there is essentially no enforcement of environmental protection measures in the area; as such, it has been heavily damaged by..."

Article seems to be missing sections on human stuff: demographics, list of towns, government, population is increasing/decreasing, industries, agriculture, cultural things, etc. I realize the population is small, but I think such info/sections are common/required for inhabited landmasses, no? Some of that data is in the History and Economy sections, but could be more thorough. Example: climate: is there no data for building the 12-month climate table seen in most geogr. articles?

... continuing above, compare with other articles on islands, e.g. Easter Island, Elba, Pitcairn Islands, etc. I know those islands are famous, and have tons of source material, but they are sparsely populated, and for FA I'd expect comparable breadth of information.

- @Noleander: There appear to be no weather stations on the island - journal articles I've seen cite the data from nearby Nosy-Be, which I think would superfluous to include. Comprehensiveness is a matter of the sources available, and there just is not extant sources which could fulfill specific climate and economic information.

That being said - I was able to find some data for Nosy Komba in the 2018 Malagasy census, so I included that within the article. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:25, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ambiguity: Ampangorina is an arrondissement of the unitary commune and district of Nosy Be. It is divided between five ... The word "it" could refer to Ampangorina or to the "district of Nosy Be".

Confusing: The island is known for its namesake black lemurs, an additional nocturnal species of lemur has not been sighted on the island since the 1990s. I'm not sure if the "additional nocturnal species" is refering to the "black lemurs" of prior clause; or is introducing a 2nd (unnamed) species. The whole sentence does not make any sense.

Lead summarizes whole article? Glancing at the lead: it appears to not summarize the entire body of the article ... Maybe you could give it another pass and make sure all the key points from the body are represented in the lead.

... in progress... Noleander (talk) 01:07, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]