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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 8 April 2025 [1].

Hurra-yi Khuttali

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Nominator(s): Amir Ghandi (talk) 17:11, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about a minor figure in the history of the Ghaznavid dynasty, the dynasty that ruled what is modern day Afghanistan and eastern Iran. Hurra-yi Khuttali was a princess from this dynasty and is regarded as the most politically active woman of her era because she interfered in the succession of her brother. Small details are known about her life, therefore the article itself is quite short.

This is the third nomination of this article; the second one failed because the Persian sources, in the absence of a speaker of the language, could not go through source review. Because of this, I have asked @Hounaam, a Persian speaker, to kindly review the Persian sources, and he has agreed. Amir Ghandi (talk) 17:11, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Borsoka

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I supported the article's promotion during its last review. Now, I reviewed the subseqent changes, and concluded that the article has improved, so I again support its promotion. Borsoka (talk) 05:03, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hounaam

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I'd like to express my gratitude to the editors and administrators for trusting me with the task of verifying the Persian sources and references for this article.

I have carefully reviewed all Persian-language references and citations. Everything has been accurately represented, and all references are correctly cited. Moreover, when compared to related articles available in Persian, this article stands out as exceptionally well-written, informative, and comprehensive. I support its promotion. Cheers, Hounaam (talk) 14:39, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Prose, source, and image review by Generalissima

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  • Lede is well-written.
  • Name and sources is also well written, and correctly uses transliteration templates for foreign words.
  • Biography also well-written, no complaints there.
  • Fixed a couple instances of out-of-order citations.
  • since in Bayhaqi's work advisors are always displayed as symbolically higher-ranking I think you need a comma after "work".
    • Done

Since Hounaam did a spot check but not a full source review:

  • All sources are high-quality academic works, good to use here. There doesn't seem to be much else out there you haven't used from searching around, and you use SFNs consistently and correctly.
  • Auer 2023 is missing a DOI, as is Boyle 1978
    • Added
  • J. A. Boyle is missing a link, as is Robert G. Hoyland
    • Done
  • Only one publisher is linked. Be consistent with linking them or not
    • Delinked
  • Some books don't have OCLCs
    • Added
  • The two entries from Encyclopaedia of Islam, Second Edition appear to be from the same source, but they're given different dates and have cites formatted differently. What's up here?
    • Changed the EL2 template to Cite Encyclopaedia for consistency
  • All cites are given in Title Case, except Bosworth 1998, which is given in sentence case. This should be fixed.
    • Done
  • A couple sources are avaliable on archive.org and should probably be linked for ease of access:

Also, might as well get images out of the way:

  • Alt-text on the Ghaznavid Empire map is incorrect; it's a map showing an empire stretching from Tehran to Lahore, but the map itself shows most of western Asia. Other alt-text is fine.
    • Amended
  • Both images are correctly licensed and appropriate.

@Amir Ghandi: that's all from me! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 07:45, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Generalissima All done Amir Ghandi (talk) 15:25, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me - support. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 15:50, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ThaesOfereode

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Support on prose from its last attempt here. Good luck this time, Amir Ghandi! ThaesOfereode (talk) 15:47, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings, @FAC coordinators: . Is it possible to promote this article at tihs moment? The consensus has been reached and the image and source reviews have been successful. There doesn't seem to be much else to add here. Thanks, Amir Ghandi (talk) 07:18, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, given the major stumbling block with the previous nom was spotchecking Persian sources and that seems to have been resolved here, I'd say things are looking good at this stage but we've only had this open a fortnight so I think can leave a bit longer to see if there are further comments. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 10:18, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Returning, I starting reading with a view to promoting and already I'm confused. The lead and infobox refer to her first husband as Abu Ali Hasan but the main body says Abu al-Hasan Ali. These appear to be different people and judging by the life dates the latter seems the right one but we confirm pls? Unless I'm completely off-base, very surprised we've got this far without it being noticed... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 12:17, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ian Rose Fixed. Amir Ghandi (talk) 21:58, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Gog the Mild

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  • "a laqab (honorific) conferred to Ghaznavid princesses". "to" → 'on'.
    • Done
  • "Khwarazmian polymath al-Biruni (973 – c. 1050) had written a first-hand account". "had written" → 'wrote'.
    • Done
  • "a first-hand account about the history of Khwarazm". Optional but recommended → 'a first-hand account of the history of Khwarazm'.
    • Done
  • "which partially included Hurra". How can it "partially" include her? Surely she is either mentioned or she isn't? Do you mean something like 'which has a few brief mentions of Hurra'?
    • Yes, replaced the line
  • "in forms of quotations". Quotations of Hurra, or about her?
    • This is an example of the way Baihaqi quotes al-Biruni in his work; the first line reads: "Abu Rayhan [al-Biruni] wrote about the kingds of Khwarazm as such:" And the rest of the page is a direct quotation of al-Biruni's now lost account.

More to follow. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:55, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • "whose realm included modern day Afghanistan, eastern Iran and northwestern India." Is it worth mentioning Pakistan?
    • Added
  • "was restricted to only theology, she sought to learn other sciences." You are saying here that theology is a science. I don't think it is usually so considered.
    • Changed to 'subjects'
  • "since the Maʽmunids feared Mahmud's intentions to annex Khwarazm." Feared that he may have such intentions, or knew that he had them and feared he may carry them out?
    • the former
  • "He, with the same intent as his brother, married Hurra in 1015/16." You haven't said what his brother's intent was. I am guessing that he married Hurra hoping that this would deter the previously mentioned annexation. If so, could this be clearly stated; if something else, likewise.
    • Done
  • "to which Maʽmun conceded to" → 'which Maʽmun conceded'. (Really.)
    • Done

A nice piece of work. I am glad you stuck with it - it seems that you are aboutt o finally get it over the line. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:43, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

IntentionallyDense

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  • Countries (such as Afghanistan) do not need to be wikilinked
  • Wikilink annexation is appropriate
  • Could you add the abbreviation template for d. 1077. Unless it's super obvious and I'm just missing something here
  • Abu al-Hasan died probably in 1008/9 switching the order of died and probably may read better
  • A wikilink for sovereign may be appropriate

That's all I have for now. Ping me when you can get back to me! IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 18:58, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@IntentionallyDense All done except for the third item, because I can't find any death templates that do not requite the date and the month. Amir Ghandi (talk) 09:22, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What I meant for that was using the Template:Abbr for d. 1077 cause some may not know that it stands for death.
Some more things I picked up on a second read through:
  • first Abu Ali Hasan and after his death, his brother Maʽmun II. "first" is redundant here as it is implied by the "after his death" part
  • her ultimate fate is unknown. ultimate seems a bit redundant here as well but I'm not super sure about this one.
Personally, I would like to keep ultimate here
  • annexation should be linked in the first mention (lead)
Ping when done. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 21:58, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@IntentionallyDense All points are addressed Amir Ghandi (talk) 08:03, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support for the prose. Seeing as this article is fairly short and has already gotten a lot of feedback in previous FAC, it was hard to find much to pick apart. IntentionallyDense (Contribs) 21:15, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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