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The article was promoted by FrB.TG via FACBot (talk) 23 March 2025 [1].

1911–12 New Brompton F.C. season

Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:56, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all, it's me back again with yet another article on a season from the history of Gillingham F.C. (my 39th such nomination), in this case the final season in which the club played under its original name. It didn't really go very well, though.... Feedback as ever will be most gratefully received and swiftly acted upon -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:56, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

SC

Comments to follow in a day or two - SchroCat (talk) 05:04, 24 February 2025 (UTC) Not much to comment on:[reply]

"14 matches and scored only four goals": According to the MOS, "comparable numbers near one another should all be written in words or all in figures", so this should either be "fourteen matches and scored only four goals" or "14 matches and scored only 4 goals"
"On 23 September, however, they": I'm not sure what benefit the "however" brings to the table
"their opponents' "feeble" defence": better if this is rephrased to avoid the scare quotes ("the Athletic News, calling Brompton's defence "feeble", was surprised that Southampton failed to score more goals", or similar)
"the second period": why not just "the second"?

That's my lot. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 16:21, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SchroCat: - thanks! All done! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:24, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support All good from me. - SchroCat (talk) 16:27, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

History6042

JockTaylor1911.jpg needs alt text.
Other alt texts should be more descriptive than just the name.
- @History6042: - what do you suggest? I have to confess that I still don't understand exactly what alt text should/shouldn't say.....
"New Brompton F.C." should be linked on first mention not in the 3rd paragraph.
- Fixed
There are many double space that don't even show up when the page is in read mode. They can be removed because they just make the article bigger for now real reason.
- Fixed
Was the FA Cup which they competed in in 1911-1912 or 1912-1913. If it was in 1912-1913 it doesn't need to be mentioned. If it was in 1911-1912it should be called New Brompton not Gillingham.
- Fixed
Ping when done please. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:00, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042: - see above -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:19, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  Alt text is meant to describe the image well enough that someone using a screen reader could know what it looks like.
  So basically, "head and shoulders view of a young man" for every image.....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:41, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  
  For example, File:DickGoffin.jpg's alt text could be "Grainy black and white image of a headshot of a young man in a circle." or something similar. History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:50, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  @History6042: - done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:05, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  Support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 21:09, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  
  New Brompton should not be linked in the third paragraph.
  @History6042: I don't understand what you mean. The club name is linked on the first usage in the lead and the first usage in the body as required by the MOS. Where are you seeing it linked in "the third paragraph"? Which section do you refer to? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:31, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  
  Sorry, this was a mistake on my oart, I thought something was a link when it wasn't. History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:48, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  
  For point 5, I meant in the lede, it still hasn't been fixed there. 13:27, 26 February 2025 (UTC) History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:27, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Gog the Mild

Recusing to review.

Cite 32 has a p/pp error.
- I can't see this, did you maybe mean a different cite?
"At the end of 1911, New Brompton were in 19th place out of 20 teams in the league table. New Brompton suffered another ..." Maybe a synonym for the second usage of New Brompton?
"In the result column, Gillingham's score is shown first".
"until competitive football was abandoned in 1915 due to the First World War." Perhaps 'suspended' would be more accurate?
"Whiteside scored the goal but would then be absent from the team for over a month". I assume we don't know why?
- I'm afraid I couldn't find anything on that
"the first time a New Brompton had scored more than once in a game". I suspect a missing word.
"During the season, 23 players made at least one appearance for New Brompton. Mahon made the most, playing in every game." Which was how many?
"Lee, Taylor, and Corbett were joint top goalscorer with six goals each." "goalscorer" or 'goalscorers'?

Gog the Mild (talk) 19:30, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: - many thanks for your review, all points addressed other than as noted above -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:16, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Image review - pass

In File:JockTaylor1911.jpg is the last bit in the "Comment" box a typo? Looking at File:DickGoffin.jpg apparently not. Why is it there?
- @Gog the Mild: - unless I am misinterpreting, the last bit in the comment box is just the license under which it was uploaded.....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:46, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

But that template is already, correctly, under "Licensing". The bit in "Comments" Is just a stray Wiki-code duplicate of the section header and licensing template. Could you get rid of them for all four images. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:06, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: - I can't see how to. When I open the edit window, all that appears is the image description and the licensing template. If I delete the latter, the image will not show a license......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:10, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Next time you load a photo, have a play around to see if you can avoid that showing. I suspect that you need to load the image, save, then add the licensing stuff afterwards. Every day is a school day. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:18, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: - duly noted

-- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:28, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All images are appropriately licenced, positioned, captioned and alt texted. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:03, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

Pretty sure I've reviewed some of the books here before. They seem reliable to me, with the caveat that this isn't an area where I have much expertise. The newspaper sources are probably OK too. Source formatting seems consistent. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:44, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

I am just going to go ahead and support as the article satisfies all the criteria. This sentence could use a comma after "December", though: "from the start of October until the end of December they won only once in fourteen matches and scored only four goals"--N Ø 13:13, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. FrB.TG (talk) 17:15, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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