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Request for Assistance

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Hello. You and I spoke some time back related to thoughts I had on the way CTOP warnings were presented on Talk Pages. You were super helpful then, and I wonder if I might impose upon you for some help now, or alternatively, for you to direct me elsewhere. I've received a sanction which I'd like to appeal, but the appeal template is somewhat over my WP head. Can you advise what the Case and Clause references ought to be here? I have some ideas, but thought I'd ask rather than guess. Many thanks! Johnadams11 (talk) 01:21, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnadams11: There is no "case" involved here; you should delete that part of the appeal template. Note that the instructions say If your request does not concern a case please remove this line. The clause is the restriction you were given, copied verbatim. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 02:42, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@HouseBlaster Thanks so much. My apology for not being quicker to get this. So, given that there is no case, the template seems to be asking for a "Decision." May I assume it is this? Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel articles#Final decision.
I've searched the archives to work off an appeal that looks like mine, but am struggling to find a good fit. If you could point me to one, I could spare you more questions! Thanks again. Johnadams11 (talk) 04:45, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The decision is Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive350#Johnadams11. I can't find a good example in the archives, though admittedly it was a cursory search. Note that I am a clerk for ArbCom, so I can only give you procedural advice (such as how to fill out the template), not substantive advice (such as how to word the appeal). Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 04:52, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@HouseBlaster. Thanks so much. I got it. Thanks again, I would not have remotely asked anything beyond procedure. Johnadams11 (talk) 13:24, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@HouseBlaster. Just posted this. Would be appreciative if you would alert me to any structural or procedural failings in the filing. Many thanks! Johnadams11 (talk) 01:58, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It looks alright to me; I added a section for uninvolved editors to leave comments. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 21:07, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Tandon v. Newsom

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Tandon v. Newsom you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Generalissima -- Generalissima (talk) 03:03, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 9 April 2025

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CfD closure question

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Hey @HouseBlaster, I'm back for one more question regarding my nac closures at CfD. Should {{old cfd}} be added for rename closes? It is not explicitly mentioned to add (or not?) at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions#Implementing a rename, merge or delete. It says keep closes should have it, but I am in a bit of confusion regarding merge closes. Thanks in advance! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 08:34, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bunnypranav! I add it for all closures where the category still exists (even as a redirect). Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 14:39, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Noted, should we add it to the merge targets as well? ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:53, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I only do that if the merge target was tagged for the discussion. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 14:56, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. Thanks for the help and quick reply! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:57, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) As another regular CfD closer, I take the alternate perspective and never add it (except when feeding work to the bot which does so automatically for renames) - I think it's redundant as the CfD is already mentioned in the history. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:11, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-16

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Question from Irfan Phoenix (12:23, 16 April 2025)

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How can I edit this page give me access to it's protection please 🙂 --Irfan Phoenix (talk) 12:23, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Irfan Phoenix: in general, we don't bypass the customary waiting period to edit pages. Instead, you can make edit requests using the edit request wizard :) Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 17:48, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month 2025: Invitation

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Copied from Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) § Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month 2025: Invitation because this page is listed on Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Subscribe.

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Hello, dear Wikipedians!

Wikimedia Ukraine, in cooperation with the MFA of Ukraine and Ukrainian Institute, has launched the fifth edition of writing challenge "Ukraine's Cultural Diplomacy Month", which lasts from 14th April until 16th May 2025. The campaign is dedicated to famous Ukrainian artists of cinema, music, literature, architecture, design, and cultural phenomena of Ukraine that are now part of world heritage. We accept contributions in every language!

The most active contesters will receive prizes.

If you are interested in coordinating long-term community engagement for the campaign and becoming a local ambassador, we would love to hear from you! Please let us know your interest.

We invite you to take part and help us improve the coverage of Ukrainian culture on Wikipedia in your language! Also, we plan to set up a banner to notify users of the possibility to participate in such a challenge! OlesiaLukaniuk (WMUA) (talk)

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Question from QeedIsAWatermelon (23:45, 16 April 2025)

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Why do all my edits always get reverted? --QeedIsAWatermelon (talk) 23:45, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@QeedIsAWatermelon: Have you been editing while logged out? If so, I would recommend logging in first. It generally makes it more likely your edits will stick. Otherwise, do you have any particular edits you would like me to look at? I would be able to give a better idea if you have a link to a page where your edit was reverted. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 02:04, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
no, I'm editing logged in QeedIsAWatermelon (talk) 21:26, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@QeedIsAWatermelon: Awesome. Which edits in particular do you want me to take a look at? You can just link to the page and I can check the page history to help you figure it out. HouseBlaster (he/they) 22:48, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(Talk page stalker here) I would recommend logging in first. It generally makes it more likely your edits will stick. Why is this so? Thanks in advance! GoldRomean (talk) 15:37, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@GoldRomean: It is a fact of Wikipedia that edits from experienced users are less likely to be reverted, and IPs are all considered inexperienced by default. That's wrong—edits should be judged on the merits—but that's the way Wikipedia anti-vandalism works in practice. HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:55, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vote now on the revised UCoC Enforcement Guidelines and U4C Charter

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The voting period for the revisions to the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines ("UCoC EG") and the UCoC's Coordinating Committee Charter is open now through the end of 1 May (UTC) (find in your time zone). Read the information on how to participate and read over the proposal before voting on the UCoC page on Meta-wiki.

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User being rude, unhelpful and vandalizing page.

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I am attempting to make an article for a museum in the Guadalupe area, which you can see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Guadalupe-Nipomo_Dunes_Center

There is a user who has been posting responses, comments and edits to the page after I asked for help on the public help page insulting me, the content itself, and essentially being rude and unhelpful and clogging up the page with pointless and obnoxious behavior.

I get it, it's not a subject they particularly care about. I am new to creating articles and am still learning how the information should be presented and what kind of sources need to be cited - that's why I asked for help. If this individual can't be actually helpful or constructive and is just going to be obnoxious to anything that isn't within their personal interest group, they don't need to be interacting with it at all.

I would appreciate if their commentary was removed and if they were told to back off if they didn't have anything actually constructive to say. Just because something isn't a personal interest of theirs doesn't mean that it's irrelevant, unimportant, or undeserving of acknowledgement as a whole.

Thank you! MoonlitDunes (talk) 21:30, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MoonlitDunes! Thank you for disclosing that you are being paid to edit. Turning to the merits, there is no "right" to a Wikipedia article. We have guidelines about what can and cannot be included. I see you wrote that it's not a big museum so it doesn't have grand opening in-depth type pages on independent sites or anything, it's mostly just local news articles and small mentions in larger publications. Wikipedia articles require that we have independent, reliable sources providing in-depth coverage. And for organizations, like museums, we require at least one in-depth, independent, reliable source from a non-local source. If those sources do not exist, there is nothing that you can do to fix the problem. The answer would be "no". There is nothing you could do, no amount of well-written, policy-complaint information you could include, to get around this. Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause; "but we are struggling and we need the publicity!" is a very common point, and is never considered when determining what qualifies for an article.
That being said, do you have three sources which you believe qualify? I can then share my assessment of them. You can see what we are looking for at this example.
And as for Theroadislong (ping for courtesy, no response required), while their comments were pointed, I wouldn't say they crossed the line into uncivil. Removing others comments is not acceptable, so please refrain from doing so. "This reads like a corporate PR piece" might not be the feedback you want to hear, but it is how the article reads. And you should be citing sources inline for claims you make, so please do that. Best regards, HouseBlaster (he/they) 21:51, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, you closed this Cfd as merge. Can you please elaborate with a closing comment or, even better, would you please consider a relist to let a clearer consensus emerge? Thank you. -Mushy Yank. 22:12, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would've thought it was obvious: participants felt that they are not helpful for navigation. Editors are not required to answer all questions about their positions to any particular editor's satisfaction until consensus is reached. If you still object to my closure, WP:DRV is thataway; I will not be unilaterally relisting or overturning my close. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 22:15, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for your reply and the link to that essay. No, it was and is still not obvious to me. This might have been seen as Not helpful vs neutral/verifiable/defining, though. Allow me to quote the relevant how-to guide, then:

Always explain your reasoning. This allows others to challenge or support facts, suggest compromises or identify alternative courses of action that might not yet have been considered. It also allows administrators to determine at the end of the discussion, whether your concerns have been addressed and whether your comments still apply if the article was significantly rewritten during the discussion period. "Votes" without rationales may be discounted at the discretion of the closing admin.

and the relevant guideline:

Also remember that nobody is obligated to close a discussion, nor is it crucial that a discussion be closed immediately once its week-long run has ended. If you feel that there is a conflict between the views expressed, and Wikipedia's policies and guidelines (e.g., an inappropriate super-majority view without an appropriate basis), it may be preferable to instead comment yourself, rather than closing, even if the "due date" for closing has been reached, and leave the close to another editor.

And

it may be appropriate to relist the discussion instead of closing, in order to allow for the possibility that further discussion might lead to a discernible consensus. However, relisting should not be a substitute for a no consensus closure. If the closer feels there has been substantive discussion, and disparate opinions supported by policy have been expressed, but consensus has not been achieved, a no-consensus close may be preferable.

and so on.
Anyway, this could be seen as being part of a major problem, mainly non-content-creator users deleting categories that are helpful for readers and content creators because those users don’t understand how useful these categories are and/or don’t even check why or whether such categories could potentially contain more articles; and it might also, for that matter, be circumstancially linked to a now closed request for adminiship, given one of the voters had totally erroneously closed the discussion before (after I contested it) reverting the close (and given your own participation to that debate [in which I took no part] was partly based on your and others’ claim that the said user was a good ”CfD closer”.) A relist would have therefore been a good idea (and maybe, with respect, leaving the close to another user? ). A more developed closing statement, too. Not taking this to Drv, because I think your close was performed in good faith and all this is more a sort of subtext that might have interfered with your assessment.
I already had spent to much time doing time-consuming BEFOREs to add some 10 articles to those ”unpopulated” categories. That was ignored and not even mentioned (I found this a bit disrespectful, but hey). But Cfds get little attention and certainly, if I may, this type of closes will not be an incentive to attract more participants who are not regulars of those debates. By the way, I see that Category:Wikipedians who own aquariums containing all of the fish they have been slapped with, that had been opened the same day, was not closed yet and the consensus seems pretty clear (much clearer (and with more than 3 participants) than for those categories, at least, in my humble opinion), you don’t want to close it, by any chance?
Thanks! -Mushy Yank. 11:53, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
First, what is helpful for navigation is subjective. Editors in the discussion felt it was unhelpful. That's how consensus works. There was clear consensus in the discussion that your efforts were insufficient for keeping the category. All participants left rationales, so I am not sure why you quoted the "explain your !vote" how-to. "Relist until we get the result I want" is not a valid appeal.
Second, you are absolutely right that I supported Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/LaundryPizza03 on the strength of their CFD contributions. That does not render me WP:INVOLVED with any discussion they partook in or which they closed. I've closed against them before, and I am sure I will close against them in the future. They've even taken me to DRV before, and I extensively argued at the RfA that they made a mistake with a close. (The close in question was of Category:Wikipedians who own aquariums containing all of the fish they have been slapped with, and my comments on the discussion are why I am not touching it.) If you disagree with my views on whether I was INVOLVED here, again, take this to DRV. HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:59, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"what is helpful for navigation is subjective": precisely! That is why my following argument: "The only ”item” that would be deleted is a defining, verifiable and neutral category, very helpful, like all the rest ot the concerned categories." is a MUCH stronger and objective one. "There was clear consensus in the discussion that your efforts were insufficient for keeping the category)": was there? I can't see that. Only one user mentioning they are not "sufficiently populated"....(again a very weak, if even valid, argument, as many CfDs have shown) Numbers regarding contained articles were not even updated (let alone the historic "dramatic" importance of the periods in question and the potential increase of films/series the categories could therefore include) by the nom (and one !vote was "per XXX"...; hence my quote...). Anyway, thank you for your reply, including your explanation regarding the Aquarium-cat. Again, I am not taking this to DRv and was only hoping you would relist it. -Mushy Yank. 17:53, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You moved, are you going to clean it up?

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Some of the articles in the previous Category:Pre-1606 contact with Australia have nothing to do with the Category:Theory of the Portuguese discovery of Australia. As you closed the CfD, are you going to fix the now miscategorisations? The-Pope (talk) 11:33, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like Aidan721 took care of this; thank you! (At CFD, it usually falls to the person who proposed the rename to do associated cleanup.) Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 16:01, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2025-17

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Question about tools

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So I don't have the automated tools for nomination. (I usually manually do things or use find/replace in a document to format things.)

But I have a list of categories, that seems like a lot of work if done that way, and was wondering if your tools could simplify it.

Basically, using Special:PrefixIndex, I found all the categories that start with "Mythological" (and "Mythological and legendary"), and want to nominate them (in separate noms) to ending with "...in mythology".

Splitting them into 5 noms: People/characters/beings, (real world) animals, legendary creatures, places, and things. And not nominating the painters or paintings ones.

Is this possible with your tools? - jc37 22:09, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Jc37: I can do that with User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD — send me the list and I can make the nomination :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 23:27, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
great! thank you : )
I went ahead and went for a more detailed set of lists, to incloude the "legendary" renames as well.
And thanks again : ) - jc37 01:56, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Of course! I have left links to the discussions inline. HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:46, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Mythological powers to Category:Superhuman abilities in mythology
Just this one? HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:46, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, sorry, yes. I was last-minute sorting the entries on the talk page here lol. - jc37 03:57, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To: X in mythology (archetypes, objects, geographical features, and animals)

Category:Mythological animals Category:Mythological anthropophages Category:Mythological aquatic creatures Category:Mythological archers Category:Mythological archetypes Category:Mythological arthropods Category:Mythological bears Category:Mythological birds of prey Category:Mythological blind people Category:Mythological bovines Category:Mythological bridges Category:Mythological bulls Category:Mythological canines Category:Mythological cannibals Category:Mythological caprids Category:Mythological cats Category:Mythological cephalopods Category:Mythological characters Category:Mythological clothing Category:Mythological corvids Category:Mythological deer Category:Mythological dogs Category:Mythological duos Category:Mythological elephants Category:Mythological family trees Category:Mythological felines Category:Mythological first humans Category:Mythological food and drink Category:Mythological forests Category:Mythological foxes Category:Mythological fratricides Category:Mythological galliforms Category:Mythological hematophages Category:Mythological heroes Category:Mythological horses Category:Mythological hunters Category:Mythological insects Category:Mythological islands Category:Mythological knots Category:Mythological lions Category:Mythological lovers Category:Mythological mammals Category:Mythological married couples Category:Mythological marsupials Category:Mythological medicines and drugs Category:Mythological molluscs Category:Mythological monkeys Category:Mythological mountains Category:Mythological musical instruments Category:Mythological objects Category:Mythological patricides Category:Mythological people involved in incest Category:Mythological pigs Category:Mythological plants Category:Mythological poisons Category:Mythological rabbits and hares Category:Mythological rape victims Category:Mythological rapists Category:Mythological rivers Category:Mythological rodents Category:Mythological royalty Category:Mythological shields Category:Mythological ships Category:Mythological spiders Category:Mythological swordfighters Category:Mythological swords Category:Mythological tigers Category:Mythological tricksters Category:Mythological trios Category:Mythological weapons

Now at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 22#Mythological foo. HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:46, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To: X in Y-ian mythology

Category:Mythological and legendary Chinese reptiles Category:Mythological and legendary Chinese snakes Category:Mythological and legendary Chinese turtles Category:Mythological and legendary Japanese birds Category:Mythological and legendary Japanese snakes Category:Mythological Greek archers Category:Mythological Greek characters Category:Mythological Greek physicians Category:Mythological Greek seers Category:Mythological Greek tutors of gods Category:Mythological Norse weapons Category:Mythological objects in Hinduism

Now at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 22#Renaming to X in Y-ian mythology. HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:46, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To: Legendary Y-ian <people> (adding "people" instead of plural-ising)

Category:Mythological Acarnanians Category:Mythological Achaeans Category:Mythological Aeginetans Category:Mythological Aetolians Category:Mythological Arcadians Category:Mythological Argives Category:Mythological Boeotians Category:Mythological Colchians Category:Mythological Corinthians Category:Mythological Cretans Category:Mythological Cypriots Category:Mythological Eleans Category:Mythological Eleusinians Category:Mythological Euboeans Category:Mythological Iolcians Category:Mythological Italian people Category:Mythological Ithacans Category:Mythological Laconians Category:Mythological Lemnians Category:Mythological Leporidae Category:Mythological Locrians Category:Mythological Megarians Category:Mythological Messenians Category:Mythological Mycenaeans Category:Mythological Indian people Category:Mythological African people Category:Mythological Paeonians Category:Mythological Phocians Category:Mythological Phoenicians Category:Mythological Phrygians Category:Mythological Pylians Category:Mythological Rhodians Category:Mythological Salaminians Category:Mythological Sicilians Category:Mythological Sicyonians Category:Mythological Thebans Category:Mythological Thessalians Category:Mythological Thracians Category:Mythological Tirynthians Category:Mythological Greek people Category:Mythological people from Anatolia Category:Mythological people from Attica

I didn't tag Category:Mythological African people, Category:Mythological Indian people, or Category:Mythological Italian people, which already match the proposed naming scheme. I also didn't tag Category:Mythological Leporidae, which is a redirect to Category:Mythological rabbits and hares (nominated above). Now at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 22#Renaming to use "people" instead of pluralizing. HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:46, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To: Legendary X of Y (monarchs/kings/etc. of country)

Category:Mythological kings of Anga Category:Mythological kings of Arcadia Category:Mythological kings of Colchis Category:Mythological kings of Denmark Category:Mythological kings of Kosala Category:Mythological kings of Kuru Category:Mythological kings of Laconia Category:Mythological kings of Magadha Category:Mythological kings of Panchala Category:Mythological kings of Pañcāla Category:Mythological kings of Pherae Category:Mythological kings of Sicyon Category:Mythological kings of Sparta Category:Mythological kings of Sweden Category:Mythological kings of Thessaly Category:Mythological kings of Thrace Category:Mythological kings of Troy Category:Mythological kings of Videha Category:Mythological Thracian women Category:Mythological Korean kings Category:Mythological Indian monarchs Category:Mythological Indian royalty Category:Mythological Greek royalty Category:Mythological Greek kings

Now at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 22#Mythological -> legendary royalty. HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:46, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To: Legendary X

Category:Mythological and legendary characters by culture Category:Mythological city founders Category:Mythological creature user templates Category:Mythological creatures Category:Mythological dynasties Category:Mythological dynasties and royal families Category:Mythological female royalty Category:Mythological human hybrids Category:Mythological human–animal hybrids Category:Mythological hybrids Category:Mythological kingdoms, empires, and countries Category:Mythological kings Category:Mythological male royalty Category:Mythological monsters Category:Mythological people Category:Mythological people by nationality Category:Mythological peoples Category:Mythological places Category:Mythological places by culture Category:Mythological populated places Category:Mythological princes Category:Mythological princesses Category:Mythological queens Category:Mythological substances Category:Mythological water creatures

Now at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 22#Mythological stuff to legendary stuff. HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:46, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Should be everything! Let me know if you need anything else :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:46, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. thank you, very very much : ) - jc37 03:58, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Of course!! Always happy to help :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:59, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from MairajShah01 (08:11, 22 April 2025)

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How do I know if I have become eligible to publish articles on the main space, My account is older than 4 days and I have already done 12 edits. --MairajShah01 (talk) 08:11, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) MairajShah01, https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec-rightschanges/en.wikipedia.org/MairajShah01 suggests you will become autoconfirmed at 10:20 today. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:00, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Mjononk on Wikipedia:Protection policy (17:01, 22 April 2025)

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hi who the h is this --Mjononk (talk) 17:01, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Mjononk: I am HouseBlaster, and admin and real, living human ready to help you. If you have any questions, please ask :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:56, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]