User talk:AlidPedian

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Hello! AlidPedian, you are invited to the Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:00, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your thread has been archived

Hi AlidPedian! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, How to request the rename of category?, has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days (usually at least two days, and sometimes four or more). You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please feel free to create a new thread.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 22:52, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Muhammad Hassan Ilyas for deletion

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Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:31, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

July 2023

Hello, I'm Apaugasma. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Khawla al-Hanafiyya, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 21:50, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this needs any reliable source, because, it is obvious that the proper Arabic transliteration is "Umm-al", instead of "Umm" or "Umm-e", which is more Persianized and Urduized. AlidPedian (talk) 09:37, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In Arabic the name Muhammad normally does not take the definite article al-. But on Wikipedia it is more generally necessary to cite sources, because what is obvious for one person may not be obvious for another. It also avoids editors making honest mistakes. Surely something like the correct form of a personal name should be easily found in reliable sources.

Our mechanism to deal with unsourced information in Wikipedia articles is to assume that it is verifiable until an editor challenges and/or removes it, at which point it may only be reinserted with a reference to a reliable source. That is, the WP:BURDEN to provide a source is on the editor who would like the information to be included. In this way, the things that are really obvious to all can stay unsourced without ever being challenged, while those things that are not obvious to some will at some point get challenged and eventually be corroborated with a source.

Of course, it's important to remain reasonable with these things. Opinions on how to deal with it also vary among editors: see the essays Wikipedia:You don't need to cite that the sky is blue and Wikipedia:You do need to cite that the sky is blue. But ultimately, the relevant policy by which everyone must abide is WP:BURDEN (beware: WP:BURDEN is a necessary, but not a sufficient reason for inclusion; there are other reasons for not including something in an article, and the decision to include depends upon content policy and consensus between editors).

I hope this helps, ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 10:53, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. But, please co-operate with me if i made any mistake on Wikipedia, there are so many things that i have to learn here, Thanks. AlidPedian (talk) 10:57, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Wikipedia has a very steep learning curve. It's completely normal for a beginner to feel kind of lost in the multitude of norms and rules. The best advice I have is to listen to and follow the guidance of more experienced editors, and to thoroughly read and re-read every Wikipedia: or WP: link they throw at you. After a while, it will become more familiar, and things will become a lot easier.

The one thing that keeps making it difficult for some beginner or intermediate editors is when they think they understand some complex Wikipedia policy, while in reality they completely misunderstand it. That's why it's important both to really read all Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines, and to observe how these policies and guidelines are applied by experienced editors.

In the beginning, this will often not go your way: articles you create will be deleted because they do not meet WP:Notability, information you add will be reverted because it does not meet WP:Verifiability or WP:Neutral point of view (this is an especially difficult one!). This can be hard to accept at times, but accepting it is precisely what will make you grow as an editor.

In general, it is almost expected of beginners to make many mistakes. The point is to learn from them, and to not make them again ... too often

. We all still make mistakes, even the most experienced of editors. The good thing about Wikipedia is that every edit can be easily reverted, so it's very hard to actually break something (see Wikipedia:Can't break it).

The most important thing that you can break though is your relationship with other editors: the hardest thing on Wikipedia, as well as the single most important thing, is to stay cool, to remain friendly to other editors at all times (even when they are not too friendly!). You're right, we're here to collaborate, and so even when unpleasant things happen the most important point is to focus on being constructive. If you can do that, you will be a truly great Wikipedia editor! ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 11:40, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, i really appreciate it.

I would try my best here. AlidPedian (talk) 12:54, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alvi

Hello AlidPedian. I have reverted your edit to Alvi and wanted to give you some feedback.

Disambiguation pages are different from other pages. They are merely navigation pages to help readers find specific existing articles quickly and easily, rather like the index of a book. They should not have content that does not already exist in an article. The text that you placed at the beginning of Alvi could go into an article, but you would need to have a reliable source. If you would like to read more about disambiguation pages, see wp:Disambiguation and MOS:DAB. Leschnei (talk) 11:56, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File copyright problem with File:Late evening view of Mazar-e-Iqbal.jpg

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If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. --Min☠︎rax^«¦talk¦» 12:55, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, actually it would be fine if you delete this image because there are other issues with the file as well. And I don't even know what tag I should use. Because I don't know many rules and policies of Wikipedia, and also Wikimedia Commons is unavailable in my region. I would like to reupload the image again sometime, with the correct image title and after knowing the correct license tag. I am sure TeaHouse will help in these confusions of mine. Please cooperate with me, as I don't know many things on Wikipedia, but I always try my best to be a good user on Wikipedia. Thanks. 😊 AlidPedian (talk) 13:21, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation link notification for March 14

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Thank you for pointing it out. I've fixed it. 😊 AlidPedian (talk) 00:27, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

March 2025

Hi there, please be very careful with adding nowiki tags to articles, as you did at Economy of Pakistan - only add it when you really intend to, and when you fully understand its effects. Thank you, Jessicapierce (talk) 04:19, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Got it, sorry. 😊 Actually, that happened by mistake, when I reverted the revision, So that the old image can return to its place. AlidPedian (talk) 12:25, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, can I ask you how that happened? I see many edits by IPs which add nowiki tags to the infobox in a similar way. I've always been curious what would cause that... were the nowiki tags added automatically somehow? This is not a criticism, I'm honestly just trying to learn. Thank you for any insights! Jessicapierce (talk) 15:27, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit to Urdu has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for information on how to contribute your work appropriately. For legal reasons, Wikipedia strictly cannot host copyrighted text or images from print media or digital platforms without an appropriate and verifiable license. Contributions infringing on copyright will be removed. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 10:26, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't added any copyrighted material. I just added the quotations from the book to Wikipedia. AlidPedian (talk) 11:22, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You also copied some nearby prose. I left the quotations in place. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:28, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Kindly look at it. And tell me if there is anything wrong with it? Because that was said by Liaquat Ali Khan and not by Raja of Mahmudabad. That is why I had to edit it again. Thank you very much. 😊 AlidPedian (talk) 11:39, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That's almost identical to the content I already removed. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:19, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:AlidPedian, I think the addition of quotes is unnecessary at present. The relation of Urdu to the Pakistan Movement should be discussed in the latter article. Kind regards, Anupam^Talk 15:31, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dear, but all these points are not only related to the Pakistan Movement but also to the Hindi-Urdu controversy. Therefore, to some extent, all these points should be mentioned here. At least as much as I have included here. 😊 AlidPedian (talk) 15:54, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Ibn Arabi, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. I don't think you understand how Wikipedia works. Please note that Wikipedia operates strictly based on information from reliable sources. Editors must adhere to established guidelines, including verifiability, neutrality, and no original research. Ensure that all contributions are well-sourced and comply with Wikipedia’s policies. M. A. Sayem (talk) 19:06, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jinnah

Could you add page numbers to your refs please. Wehwalt (talk) 13:11, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As for the book of Dr. Ayesha Jalal, "The Sole Spokesman", I have provided the page number. But, currently it would be difficult for me to find the exact page number again, where Jaswant Singh wrote his famous notion, regarding the stance of Jinnah on partition in his book. AlidPedian (talk) 13:33, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Page numbers are favored to make easier readers seeking to verify content per WP:V. Just for your guidance. Wehwalt (talk) 18:41, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'm aware of that. I'll plan to find the page numbers in the future. But I can't promise.

Secondly, you recently removed "British-ruled state" from my revision. Please don't do that, I didn't find anything POV about adding that. AlidPedian (talk) 18:48, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

28 March

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