Template:Did you know nominations/Vladimir Herța

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The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 00:39, 13 April 2025 (UTC)

Vladimir Herța

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Side view of the Herța villa

... that the villa (pictured) of a former street musician was used for Chișinău's high-society gatherings before the Russian Revolution?

Source: Iurie Colesnic, "Istoria noastră. Vladimir Hertza, adept al Unirii și primar de Chișinău", in Funcționarul Public, Issue 20/2014, p. 9: După ce s-a căsătorit, fără învoirea tatălui său, tânărul a dus în Italia o viaţă de cântăreţ ambulant. ("After he got married, without his father's approval, the young man [Herța] established himself in Italy as a street musician.") And "Casa Hertza, victimă a nepăsării autorităților", in Adevărul Moldova, 13 January 2012: Vila de vară a lui Vladimir Hertza, fost primar de Chişinău, era la începutul secolului trecut locul de întâlnire al nobililor. Aici se puneau la cale afaceri şi se consumau scene romantice dintre cuconaşi şi cuconiţe, în timpul balurilor organizate de proprietar. ("The summer villa of Vladimir Hertza, former mayor of Chișinău, was at the beginning of the last century a meeting place of the nobility. It was here that business transactions were carried out, and that romantic scenes could be consumed between young gentlemen and ladies, during balls organized by the owner.")

ALT1: ... that Vladimir Herța's Chișinău villa (pictured) was also where, in 1917, he formed a coalition against Bessarabia's annexation by Ukraine? Source: George Tofan, "Cum s-a alcătuit Sfatul Țării", in Transilvania, Issues 3–4/2008, p. 5: prin luna lui iulie, când, aşa din senin, a venit la Zemstva gubernială a Basarabiei o telegramă de la Rada ucraineană din Kiev, în care se cerea comisarului gubernial al Basarabiei să ia parte la sfatul comisarilor ucraineni - ceea ce însemna că Rada socoteşte Basarabia ca o parte a Ucrainei, mai mulţi fruntaşi din Partidul Naţional, precum şi din alte organizaţii din Chişinău, au simţit că a sosit vremea ca ţara să-şi spună pe faţă dorinţele şi să purceadă la înfăptuirea lor. Ideea Sfatului Ţării atunci s-a pus într-o formă mai concretă. S-au ţinut în casa dlui Vladimir Herţa câteva consfătuiri la care au luat parte reprezentanţii tuturor naţionalităţilor şi s-a hotărât alcătuirea Sfatului Ţării, având să fie reprezentată în el fiecare naţionalitate în proporţia procentului ei de locuitori (moldovenii 70%). ("around July [1917], when a telegram from the Ukrainian Rada in Kiev was suddenly received by Bessarabia's gubernial zemstvo, with demands that that the gubernial commissar of Bessarabia should take part in the council of Ukrainian commissars - meaning that the Rada saw Bessarabia as a part of the Ukraine - several leaders of the National Party, as well as of other organizations in Chișinău, felt that the time had arrived for that land to make its wishes clear, and then that it should proceed to materialize them. Several meetings were held in Mr Vladimir Herța's home, joined by representatives of all nationalities, and a decision was made to establish Sfatul Țării, in which all nationalities would be represented in proportion to their share of the population (with Moldavians at 70%).")
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Seraglio of Baabda
Comment: I realize that it is a tad frowned upon to combine sources for the same hook, but it is by no means unprecedented.

5x expanded by Dahn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 113 past nominations.

Dahn (talk) 10:49, 20 March 2025 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - Minor quibble: the hook calls the city "Chișinău", but the text near the hook context calls it "Kishinev". I don't have a strong opinion on which one it should be but they should probably be consistent.

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Assuming good faith on non-English and/or offline sources. Personally I'm happy with the sourcing, if there's some DYK convention to avoid multi-source hooks I'm unaware of it. I like ALT0 personally. Rusalkii (talk) 20:55, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you kindly, Rusalkii! Concerning the quibble: the reason why the article doesn't use a consistent spelling is because the city changed names while VH was alive, which creates a bit of an anomaly. I preferred C rather than K in the hook only because this is the current name of the city, and the villa is still there -- granted, the K version would have had its own merits, since the high-society mentioned in ALT0 was Russian, but I figured not having the antiquated Russian version linked on the mainpage would have spared all of us some geopolitical controversy. That said, I do not hold strongly to any version. Dahn (talk) 04:36, 28 March 2025 (UTC)