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The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 02:12, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
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The Ethereal Rock
... that according to Judith T. Zeitlin, the "most obvious inspiration" for Pu Songling's short story about a man's friendship with a rock was Mi Fu, "whose obsession with rocks had become proverbial"?
Source: Zeitlin, Judith T. (1993). Historian of the Strange Pu Songling and the Chinese Classical Tale. Stanford University Press. ISBN 0804720851. p. 79
Created by Kingoflettuce (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 181 past nominations.
KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 14:54, 11 February 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: The hook needs to be cited, anything else seems fine. Munfarid1 (talk) 11:06, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Munfarid1: ummm, it is cited?? See the last line of "Analysis". KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 11:30, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- You have to mention the source on this nomination after the hook. I have just added the corresponding lines you seem to have dropped from the template. - Just add the source here, and I can give it the green light. Munfarid1 (talk) 12:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, it's not a requirement y'know (as opposed to whether or not the hook fact is cited inline in the article proper), see for instance this thread, but I have just done so anyway. Thanks KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 12:40, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- You have to mention the source on this nomination after the hook. I have just added the corresponding lines you seem to have dropped from the template. - Just add the source here, and I can give it the green light. Munfarid1 (talk) 12:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
The above hook has been pulled per WT:DYK#The Ethereal Rock as being too long and possibly not interesting to a broad audience. A new hook wording may be needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:09, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- I was away and only just saw this but, with respect, I find part of your objection to the SL93's first suggested alt ("... that the inspiration for the short story "The Ethereal Rock", about a man's friendship with a rock, was the painter Mi Fu?") strange ("Not much of an improvement since it's reliant on knowing who Mi Fu is.") since countless DYK hooks have involved some kind of reference to somebody or something (apart from the nominated article's subject) that a "non-specialist" audience would be unfamiliar with. Noting your point about wordiness, however, I propose thjis:
- ALT1: "... that a Chinese short story about a man's friendship with a rock may have been inspired by the painter Mi Fu, who was reportedly obsessed with rocks?" Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 11:22, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'm okay with that wording. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:48, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer needed to check ALT1 (which I've numbered and made more visible). Thanks. Struck original hook since nom was pulled because of it. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:23, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Since the nomination is timing out tomorrow I'm giving ALT1 the tick, with the rest of the review per Munfarid1. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:02, 10 April 2025 (UTC)