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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle talk 12:50, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

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Mike Estep (American football)

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  • ... that football player Mike Estep, who had "the demure of a person who wouldn't hurt a fly," was nicknamed The Terminator?
Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 336 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:01, 21 April 2025 (UTC).

  • Not a review, but is the quote really necessary for the hook? Just simply "that American football player Mike Estep was nicknamed The Terminator" would probably be more effective as a hook. Regardless, the hook needs to specify American football given how notoriously vague that word is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:42, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
    • I mean, you could say just that he was nicknamed The Terminator, but I think someone known for "not hurting a fly" having such a nickname is a more interesting contrast. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:10, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
      • The hook quote isn't even grammatical: "demure" is an adjective, and doesn't fit there. If the quote is really necessary (and I'm not convinced it is), then changing the part after the bold link to be "who wouldn't hurt a fly", was nicknamed... Note that Wikipedia uses logical quotations, so the comma would be outside the quote marks. I also don't think "The Terminator" should be in italics, since it's the name of a character in this case, not a movie. Please supply a new hook; I've struck the one that was supplied. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:59, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
  • Hello. The article was new enough at time of nomination (DYK nomination on 21 April, having passed GAN on 14 April, and has not appeared on the Main Page), is long enough (3386 characters of readable prose), and is presentable. ALT1 is interesting, sourced, and formatted properly, though I would have approved a variation of ALT0 as long as the grammar issues are resolved: I think that the "fly" description makes it more unusual too. Let me know if you want to propose one.
    A quid pro quo was done and "unreviewed backlog mode" was not activated at the time of nomination, so only one is needed. With regards to core content policies such as verifiability, neutrality, copyright, and BLP, I did not detect any violations. I have a question, though: I'm not super familiar with what redshirting does vis-à-vis varsity letters, so it's a little confusing to read that he was at Bowling Green for five years but he "received a varsity letter all four years at Bowling Green". That isn't a DYK eligibility issue, though, so approved. Sdrqaz (talk) 05:01, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
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