Template:Did you know nominations/Margaret (song)
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 17:33, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
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Margaret (song)
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Margaret Qualley in 2020.
- ... that the song "Margaret" is named after actress Margaret Qualley (pictured)?
** ALT1: ... that the song "Margaret" was the last song written for Lana Del Rey's ninth studio album? Source: https://www.nme.com/news/music/listen-to-lana-del-reys-sprawling-new-single-a-and-w-3398447
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Raging Bull (roller coaster)
- Comment: Doesn't have to have a picture.
Converted from a redirect by Jolielover (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.
jolielover♥talk 06:59, 4 February 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review, but I don't see how ALT1 is interesting to a broad audience. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:33, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Jolielover and Narutolovehinata5: what about this:
ALT2: ... that "Margaret" is a love ballad about how Jack Antonoff and Margaret Qualley (pictured) first met?- @Viriditas: yes, I like that. jolielover♥talk 02:24, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Jolielover and Narutolovehinata5: what about this:
| General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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| Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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| Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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| QPQ: Done. |
Overall: 
Article is new enough and long enough; well-sourced, neutral, BLP-compliant, and copyvio-free. Objections were raised against ALT1 by Narutolovehinata5, leaving ALT0. I'm not a big fan of ALT0, so I added ALT2. I can't approve my own hook, so I'm asking for a second opinion. I think there's also opportunities for new hooks if nobody likes ALT0 or ALT2. ALT1 struck. Viriditas (talk) 03:21, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: actually, they objected against ALT1, not ALT0. The hook that it was the last song written for the album. Which I have to admit is boring. jolielover♥talk 03:35, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
Happy to pass ALT2 as interesting, cited, and verified by this Rolling Stone article. The image probably can't run, per Try to avoid images that divert readers from the bolded article into a side article
in WP:DYKIMG. Tenpop421 (talk) 21:38, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
Owing to a discussion at WT:DYK regarding the interestingness of the promoted hook (ALT2), I've gone ahead and pulled this hook from prep. The following hooks were also proposed in the discussion:
- ALT3: ...that Margaret Qualley had to confirm Lana Del Rey did not leak her wedding date on a song?
- ALT4: ...that there was speculation Lana Del Rey had leaked a celebrity couples' wedding date on a song?
- Normally I would have just swapped it out with one of the above, but I have reservations about either hook meeting WP:DYKHOOKBLP, so I brought the nom back to unapproved for more discussion. Another alternative hook about the song reaching Silver in the UK was also proposed but I have not included it here as it probably does not meet WP:DYKINT.
- A possible third option could be a reworded version of ALT2 that largely keeps the wording but specifies who Antonoff and Qualley are, for the benefit of readers unfamiliar with them. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:01, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Jolielover, Viriditas, and Tenpop421: I agree that both ALT3 and ALT4 both violate WP:DYKHOOKBLP. New hook needed.--Launchballer 15:06, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer:
- ALT0a: ... that "Margaret" by Lana Del Rey is a love ballad about actress Margaret Qualley, then-fiancée of Del Rey's collaborator Jack Antonoff?
- ALT0a solves my concerns with the originally-promoted hook. Just waiting for Jolielover and Viritidas's responses. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:25, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Sure, I like the hook jolielover♥talk 02:50, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT0a solves my concerns with the originally-promoted hook. Just waiting for Jolielover and Viritidas's responses. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:25, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer:
- Suggest going back to "simple" (more similar in spirit to the first hook):
- ALT0b: ... that actress Margaret Qualley cried when she first heard the song "Margaret"?
- The lowest common denominator here is simple human emotion, even if you don't know who the actress is, and there is mystery as well – was the song written for or about her and by whom, or was there another reason she cried? Cielquiparle (talk) 04:49, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- ALT0b is also a good option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:39, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
In the interest of this moving forward I'll be checking ALT0b. It's cited inline and verified in the Today.com source. Assuming there are no further issues, then I am approving ALT0b as the most interesting and BLP compliant hook. The rest of the review is per Viriditas. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:47, 29 March 2025 (UTC)