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RM, Tulsa race riot → Tulsa Race Massacre of 1919, No move, April 28, 2017
RM, Tulsa race riot → Tulsa race massacre, Move reverted, November 20, 2018
RM, Tulsa race riot → Tulsa race massacre, No consensus, August 8, 2019.
RM, Tulsa race riot → Tulsa Race Massacre, Request declined, October 15, 2019
RM, Tulsa race riot → Tulsa Massacre of 1921, Request declined, January 5, 2020
RM, Tulsa race riot → Tulsa race massacre, Moved, February 7, 2020

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Section sizes

Section size for Tulsa race massacre (57 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	15,362	15,362
Background	8,208	8,208
Monday, May 30 (Memorial Day)	35	3,492
Encounter in the elevator	2,147	2,147
Brief investigation	1,310	1,310
Tuesday, May 31	21	17,644
Arrest of Rowland	1,759	1,759
Newspaper coverage	3,520	3,520
Stand-off at the courthouse	4,810	4,810
Taking up arms	4,831	4,831
Outbursts of violence	2,703	2,703
Wednesday, June 1	1,360	15,895
Fires begin	2,982	2,982
Daybreak	1,371	1,371
Attack by air	5,409	5,409
Arrival of National Guard troops	4,773	4,773
Aftermath	15	36,916
Casualties	9,921	9,921
Property losses	954	954
Identities of the African American victims	3,431	3,431
Public Safety Committee	857	857
Rebuilding	4,802	4,802
Tulsa Union Depot	4,932	4,932
1921 grand jury investigation	37	6,482
Allegations of corruption	1,483	1,483
John A. Gustafson	4,962	4,962
Breaking the silence	5,522	5,522
Survivors	273	17,323
Olivia Hooker	2,476	2,476
Eldoris McCondichie	2,214	2,214
George Monroe	1,281	1,281
Mary E. Jones Parrish	2,542	2,542
Lessie Benningfield ("Mother Randle")	1,800	1,800
Hal Singer	2,075	2,075
Essie Lee Johnson Beck	1,563	1,563
Vernice Simms	1,556	1,556
Lena Eloise Taylor Butler	1,543	1,543
Tulsa Race Massacre Commission	2,245	2,245
Post-commission actions	29	30,230
Search for mass graves	12,573	12,573
Reconciliation	3,347	3,347
Survivors' lawsuit	2,529	2,529
John Hope Franklin Reconciliation Park	1,476	1,476
Renewed calls for restitution	8,239	8,239
House Bill 1775	2,037	2,037
President Biden's 2021 visit	1,276	1,276
Tulsa Historical Society and Museum	1,155	1,155
Present-day Black Wall Street	1,445	1,445
In popular culture	63	13,984
Literature	3,782	3,782
Film and television	7,719	7,719
Music and art	2,420	2,420
See also	797	797
References	290	290
Bibliography	4,908	4,908
Further reading	3,485	3,485
External links	2,907	2,907
Total	177,562	177,562

Awkward Sentence

"The commission gave several estimates ranging from 75 to 300 dead.[23][24]"

The above sentence strikes me as awkwardly worded.

Ref [23] is to p 123 of the Commission's report which actually reads:

"There were an undetermined number of deaths, both black and white, with estimates ranging from the official count of 36 to approximately 300."

Ref [24] is to an opinion piece by W White which reads:

"Fifty whites and between 150 and 200 Negroes is much nearer the actual number of deaths".

The second ref seems superfluous since these numbers are included within the first reference.

In the sentence itself the word 'gave' suggests or implies that the Commission itself was giving these estimates. Th Commission was however simply reporting the existence of various estimates made by others.

May I suggest rewording the sentence to read:

"The commission reported estimates ranging from 36 up to around 300 dead.[23]" 78.147.107.79 (talk) 16:15, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thank you for the helpful suggestion. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 16:35, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]