Talk:The Electric State

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The actual plot

Why is the entire actual plot not here yet, for a book written this long ago? Wikipedia doesn't care about spoilers.

YES, I admittedly did not read the book. BUT I'm going to throw this out there: someone did. 75.117.31.123 (talk) 20:26, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Seven years this long ago. Enough for your credit history to be cleaned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.117.31.123 (talk) 20:27, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What kind of entitled BS is this?! Wikipedia is not your bitch. If you want a detailed plot synopsis, read the book, create a user account and get to work! -- 2001:9E8:79C2:1000:AD4F:7A83:58ED:E39 (talk) 16:52, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks 2A01:CB0C:8827:E100:E819:94BC:5E20:7FE4 (talk) 22:51, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 17 March 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

It was proposed in this section that multiple pages be renamed and moved.

result:
Moved, the second proposal to be disambiguated as The Electric State (film). Thanks and kudos to editors for your input; everyone stay healthy! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 03:44, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Move logs: source title · target title

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The Electric State (graphic novel) → The Electric State
The Electric State → ?

– Original book receives precedent over film adaptation. Sheila1988 (talk) 22:29, 17 March 2025 (UTC) — Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 01:57, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: there is an article at The Electric State title that must be dispositioned, so this proposal has been altered to reflect this need. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 02:47, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose What you call "the norm" is found at WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. What makes the book the primary topic?

(CC) Tbhotch^™ 23:19, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Snow Oppose agree with Tbhotch, although I can understand the sentiment. I was more than a little concerned when I read this rational, and saw the articles move from under me as I casually edited. WP:SNOWBALL. Widefox; talk 23:34, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support as WP:PT2 - graphic novel has and likely will hold more long term significance CR (how's my driving? call 0865 88318) 16:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Is there a primary topic? ProudWatermelon (talk) 22:53, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The movie is somehow based on the book. A lot of movies based on books have the suffix "(film)", with the book having no suffix. Therefore the movie "The Electric State" can become "The Electric State (film)".

JekyllTheFabulous (talk) 08:36, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support per JekyllTheFabulous GeniusTaker (talk) 01:49, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Nom states Original book receives precedent over film adaptation... Not necessarily, no. Understandable assumption but contrary to Wikipedia policy. Andrewa (talk) 01:03, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support The current The Electric State should be The Electric State (film). In Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(films)#From_other_topics, when a film is based on another work, the original work is often considered as a primary topic, such as All Quiet on the Western Front, An American in Paris, and The Sound of Music. I don't think the film is overwhelmingly more famous than the original graphic novel, for the graphic novel has been well received but the film is now regarded as a flop. --saebou (talk) 20:34, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support agree with the long term significance is in this novel rationale, and the derivative work should have the (film) notation. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 01:36, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.