Talk:The Chosen (TV series)

Cast list (redux)

Considering the recent editing history, as well as not so recent, the cast list has been a constant source of article instability, and that instability has twice now contributed to GA status fail. Some of the past issues were due to disagreements over formats, as the initial building of the cast was not as clearcut within the scope of our MoS when compared to other TV series. And some of it is simply due to fancruft constantly creeping in.

To address this issue head on, I have added a List of The Chosen characters list article. This isn't considered a formal split, as the main article still contains the main cast (see more below), but it has the benefit of giving some room for expansion that wouldn't be appropriate in the main article due to size. I believe the cast size and complexity also warrants this.

Keep in mind that while there is no specific "one right way" to display this type of information, there are likewise many incorrect ways to do it as well. While expansion of the content on the list article is encouraged, it also needs to remain "encyclopedic" in nature and not simply "fancruft". No trivia, and keep the minutiae to a minimum.

What really needs to happen on the list article at this point is expansion of other characters that were omitted from the original article due to size/complexity reasons (see past discussions: [1][2][3]). Now that there is a list article, these recurring and guest characters are more approrpriate to list - in fact, encouraged. Make sure it makes sense to list, however; no fancruft applies. Also, make sure you are famililar with MOS:TV, specifically that which is related to MOS:TVCAST ButlerBlog (talk) 16:17, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Why the sermon, the lecture, the warnings, the condescension, the instruction? Why not just say "Here's a new article, let's work on it together", and see what happens? A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 17:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Again, just wow. You really always read things that aren't ever there, don't you? I'm simply at a loss at this point. I quite literally just withdrew my request that your article block be extended to the talk page.[4] I'm already regretting that decision. ButlerBlog (talk) 17:31, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Please see my response to your warning and comments here at my talk page.[5] The threats from you and the attempts to block me from editing really need to stop. You lectured me on good faith, and then followed up with all of the above. It's just doesn't seem to be in the spirit of collaboration and working with others in editing Wikipedia. I just want to help grow the articles on The Chosen and make them helpful to readers. That's it, that's my motivation. Nothing more. A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 17:47, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Well, for starters, you seem to think that the above was directed at you, which it's not. It's directed in general (since, I don't know if you've noticed, but there are a lot of editors who contribute) in order to point out existing MOS. Past editing history in general has shown that we get a lot of inexperienced editors who don't know (or care) that there's an existing MOS and that we are an encyclopedia, not a fan site. The guidance is intentional for that purpose. Whether that applies to you personally or not depends on you. I just want to help grow the articles on The Chosen and make them helpful to readers - if you want to do that, then follow existing guidelines and we'll get along fine. ButlerBlog (talk) 17:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Butler, for the general info and things to keep in mind going forward. Some I already knew and some I didn't due to the articles I usually contribute to. Appreciate you taking the time to encourage other contributors. THX1136 (talk) 00:52, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Reception subjectivity/stylistic

Second paragraph of "Reception" section seems pretty subjective, talking about how Holywood "gatekeeps" Christian cinema. The person writing also seems to talk directly to the reader by commenting that christian watchers will most likely enjoy the series. Might think about editing this paragraph/section. 83.6.178.172 (talk) 12:38, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

You have to read those in context with the remainder of the paragraph. It is a part of the whole, especially in the case of the second item mentioned. If these stood on their own without sources, I'd be inclined to agree, but that's not the case. Certainly, there is always room for improving an article, but this section was worked, reworked, and refined several times based on independent assessments for C-class, B-class, and GA status. ButlerBlog (talk) 01:59, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Correct an accolade to show "Won"

Hello, I noticed that under the shows Accolades, it says that Jonathan Rumie was nominated for an award but in fact he won the prize. Here is my source. Could someone correct this please? Thank you!

https://movieguideawards.com/category/winners/ AB12349 (talk) 23:59, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Assuming you're referring to 2020, that has now been updated. ButlerBlog (talk) 14:04, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Awesome. Thank you so much! AB12349 (talk) 16:52, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

propose make "(TV series)" page a member of a franchise page

Looks like "The Chosen" is now a franchise, of which "The Chosen" (TV series) is a member.

https://deadline.com/2024/09/the-chosen-bibical-series-spinoffs-moses-joseph-1236096060/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.164.37.215 (talk) 14:04, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Viewer estimates

estimates for viewership strain credulity on their own but begin to show cracks when compared to each other, 300 million views by 2021 but only 108 million *viewers* by 2022, implying about 200 million rewatches 73.229.180.120 (talk) 02:35, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Any given user who watched the first two complete seasons (by 2022) would generate 8 episode views. That suggests most viewers did not watch all episodes, the exact opposite of your suggestion. ButlerBlog (talk) 04:19, 23 April 2025 (UTC)