Talk:Simple Plan/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Adding "alternative rock" to Genres.

Simple Plan in pretty much pop-punk but they also play alternative rock, so I would appreciate to make this option available. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by AwesomeUsername555 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Alright. But before editing, please cite verifiable and reliable sources. --TheReaderOfOz (talk) 19:13, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

French Canadian and yet...

It seems to me a bit misleading that we start this article saying Simple Plan French Canadian and then fail to mention at any point that the majority (perhaps all) of Simple Plan's work has been in English. Perhaps we should clarify that, or simply say that they are from Montreal and leave it at that.--ASA-IRULE (talk) 22:36, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I personally don't think it needs to be said, but if you want a shot at it, let's see! — Poe Joe _{(formerly Ian Lee)} (Talk) 01:39, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps we should call them Quebecois. After all, there are French Canadians in other provinces, esp. New Brunswick and Ontario. The Dionne Quintuplets lived a hundred miles outside the province, yet they were French Canadian. I don't see any need to note the language.--Wehwalt (talk) 06:45, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

My only objection to Quebecois is that many people will not understand what the terms means. I think it's fine as is. — Poe Joe _{(formerly Ian Lee)} (Talk) 21:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I guess. We seem to go around in circles on this.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:29, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

My only issue is that there is a french Canadian music scene and Simple Plan isn't a part of it. While the band members may be francophone that's just a part of Canadian life. Jean Chrétien's page doesn't mention that he is francophone until the 3rd section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shnoble (talk • contribs) 04:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

This Page Really Needs a Criticism Section

It's one of the most hated bands ever, but if someone adds a criticism section, it's immediately deleted by rabid Simple Plan fans. 70.72.204.39 (talk)

Criticism sections are frowned upon by WP guidelines. Any sourced matter should be integrated into the text.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:34, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Agreed with Wehwalt. There just aren't enough reliable sources we could use to write such a section. Also, the last criticism section was deleted months ago. I have no idea what you are talking about. -- Poe Joe (Talk) 23:47, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

And disregarding your slanderous statement that SP fans are "rabid", Simple Plan is far from the most hated band ever. Simple Plan hate died out a long time ago; it was very short-lived. Get with the program. -- Poe Joe (Talk) 23:51, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually. they ARE one of the most hated bands, by those who actually listen to rock and are not faux-rockers who really just like pop-rock, and Simple Plan hate didn't die out due to time, it died out when the band's cultural significance died out. If you still ask most people, and if they even remember Simple Plan, they will agree, they still hate them. Though until a Rolling Stone or equivalent music authority can produce an article labeling them as the worst band we all know they are, no criticism page should exist. C. Pineda (クリス) (talk) 02:31, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Suggest Genre Change (no flame wars!)

Someone (not me - you can check the history) has added emo to the band's genre list.

Which is something I totally agree with.

I know accusing bands left, right and centre of being "emo" is stupid, but seriously, everyone knows Simple Plan are an emo band. It's pretty much undebatable. So, before some huge stupid edit war starts over this, I'd just like to ask someone, anyone, to find as many reliable sources as possible that cite the band as emo. This whole thing needs to be cleared up. --LordNecronus (talk) 22:19, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Your passages has teh gots thu non-objective, biasedness. Please read all the above topics concerning this very issue. -- Poe Joe (talk) 03:57, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. I challenged the "every band is emo is one person anywhere said it is" folk to come up with a significant number of articles saying SP was emo, they didn't do very well. Please read that discussion, as Poe Joe said.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:12, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure SP would be considered as pop-punk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.137.189.138 (talk) 21:32, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Move Damage Control to the respective host's page?

Damage Control has nothing to do with the band, according to this article. I vote that it is moved to the host's page rather than the band's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanielDPeterson (talk • contribs) 10:45, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, the theme song of the show is "Me Against the World", a Simple Plan song. Zappa (talk) 02:56, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I had no idea. I've never watched it. DanielDPeterson + talk 03:17, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Television

Simple Plan recorded the theme song for "What's New Scooby Doo?", and songs from "No Pads, No Helmets...Just Balls" were featured in the show, specifically the episodes "It's Mean, It's Green, It's the Mystery Machine"-featuring "I'd Do Anything"- and "Simple Plan and the Invisible Madman"-featuring "You Don't Mean Anything" and "The Worst Day Ever". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.23.18 (talk) 23:25, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Genre

Simple Plan is an Alternative and/or Punk band. They are not emo and are not necessarily rock. They are similar to Good Charlotte, Sum 41, and other such bands. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.23.18 (talk) 23:27, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Proposed Criticisms

Let's run this by you guys, feedback and POV editing please... I was blocked by some foaming-at-the-mouth Simple Plan fan for editing this in after he took it out. broke 3RR he says. anyways, let's get some consensus. please verify:

Although Simple Plan maintains a devoted following and has produced two multiplatinum records with numerous hit singles, it remains one of the most bashed rock groups of recent time. The band is particularly hounded by devoted fans of the punk movement, and is frequently accused of being a pop-punk band although they describe themselves otherwise. Moreover, the juvenile subject matter of their work prompts further accusations due to the fact that its members are approaching their 30s. Many identify Simple Plan as evidence of the shameless corporatization of rock and roll music in the relentless efforts of record companies to exploit every possible commercial demographic. Nevertheless, the members of Simple Plan have stated quite clearly that they enjoy the backlash of critics, as they believe in the old adage, "all publicity is good publicity," and they will never stop doing what they love.www.sonicbreakdown.com/artistDetails.do?selectedArtistId=16039 In addition, the group continues to enjoy considerable mainstream success, as evidence by the aforementioned record sales.

• I have reverted the page after the vandalism... (again). I think its obvious that this page needs a criticisms section. the page is hit by vandals every fucking week

I personally think that it depends on what song you're talking about. Although none of their songs are pure punk, some of them or more pop than others, but not pure pop (cause eww). Even though they do suck other mens "parts" ~Melissa

Such a criticism is not unreasonable, but it could also be applied to countless other musicians and "performers". Perhaps if you had a formal critique it would not be removed from the article. The link you provided is not working. What you're saying is fairly obvious to a neutral observer, so I don't see why it should be challenged the way it has been. You have my support in your endeavour. XJeanLuc (talk) 22:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Look I would be almost paraphrasing User:XJeanLuc so I wont, my views are inline with that users comment. So I support your proposal. However a few critic sources would be ideal if sources across the time period of their album releases is to be had then this really is a no brainer.Jcislowski (talk) 04:59, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Explicit content

Is the self-titled / untitled album the only one with swear words? --1.252.80.124 (talk) 12:47, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Simple plan's music genre emo?

Simple Plan is an Pop Punk and Alternative band. They are not Emo. They are similar to Good Charlotte, Sum 41, and other such bands. Biruxx (talk) 03:48, 9 October 2015 (UTC)