Talk:Sanjay Shah

Disambiguation

This article was previously at Sanjay Shah (businessman).

An article about an unrelated person from Kenya, who stayed in Nairobi Airport in 2004–2005 until he obtained British nationality, was originally at Sanjay Shah, then redirected to British Overseas citizen#Future of British Overseas citizenship following Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sanjay Shah, therefore this page was moved and a hatnote was added.

That heading and the content about Shah were later removed by Horserice.Overseas citizen&diff=next&oldid=884491033Overseas citizen&diff=884605818&oldid=884599896 I have therefore revised the hatnote to History of British nationality law#British Nationals with no other citizenship which currently still mentions him. – Fayenatic London 16:18, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Re-created

I’ve re-created the page as the fraud accusations are both unusual and historic because of the size of the fraud. The size of the fraud is the largest in Danish history. According to the Danish media database, Infomedia, Shah has been mentioned more than 120 times in the Danish newspapers only, during the last month. The fraud-size of 9.1 billion DKK is 0.5 % of Denmark’s GDP. The accusations is therefore to be “considered noteworthy” in compliance with WP:PERPETRATOR.

It should not fall for WP:BLPCRIME as an actual trial in the court of law is highly unlikely and it’s likely that he will never be convicted due to the lack of extradition agreements between Denmark and UAE.

Gloegg~enwiki (talk) 20:47, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

The United Arab Emirates has very few extradition treaties and none with European or North American countries (USA, too). That includes every single country that are investigating the case. He's essentially safe as long as he stays in the UAE. 62.107.192.250 (talk) 23:45, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Recent tags

Tagged the page per initial reasoning in the AfD discussion. Reiterating: WP:BLP1E, WP:NOTNEWS and now WP:G4. Making a couple edits now and will circle back. Would appreciate other editor feedback, besides SPA. Jppcap (talk) 22:11, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Cleaned up issues. Three sentences. Again, there's nothing to substantiate notability here. Page did not pass AfD and was recreated. Jppcap (talk) 22:24, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

FT alphaville

Text to remove: while his London home and offices were raided by the British National Crime Agency, and Varengold Bank (co-owned by Shah) was raided by German authorities.

Reason: The reference is FT Alphaville which is a blog and not news from a newspaper.

Eagleeye321 (talk) 07:15, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

References

Alphaville is a WP:NEWSBLOG and therefore considered a reliable source. It is not going to be removed. SmartSE (talk) 08:53, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

The National Newspaper article 18 August 2020

Can this article please be added to this page? Dubai court dismisses Dh7.2bn tax fraud claims against Sanjay Shah https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/courts/dubai-court-dismisses-dh7-2bn-tax-fraud-claims-against-sanjay-shah-1.1065042 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.204.253.122 (talk • contribs) 05:25, November 29, 2020 (UTC)

Hi @94.204.253.122:, please follow the instructions at Template:Request edit/Instructions to format your request. The request should include what prose you want added or changed in the article. Also, please describe your conflict of interest with this person (do you know them personally, or are you paid by them?) I am closing this ticket as "answered" although any editor can open a new request below. If you have any questions, please post below or on my talk page. Happy editing! Z1720 (talk) 21:02, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

The National Newspaper article 18 August 2020

• Information to be added or removed: On 12 August 2020, the Dubai Court dismissed the Danish government's claim that it had been defrauded by Sanjay Shah of £1.5 billion (Dh7.2 bn), due to lack of evidence.
• Explanation of issue: This article highlights that the Danish government have so far (since 2015) been unable to prove any wrongdoing by Sanjay Shah, despite making allegations. I am conflicted as I am the subject of this page.
• References supporting change: https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/courts/dubai-court-dismisses-dh7-2bn-tax-fraud-claims-against-sanjay-shah-1.1065042

94.204.253.122 (talk) 18:34, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

 Done. ~Anachronist (talk) 02:42, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Request to add content from 12 May 2021

Good morning, can this article be referenced (https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/judge-condemns-denmark-s-pursuit-of-dubai-tycoon-sanjay-shah-over-alleged-1-5bn-tax-fraud-1.1221638) to say that in April 2021 the UK Commercial High Court dismissed Denmark's claim against Sanjay Shah and the judge critised Denmark's actions. "It was litigation that was politically as well as financially motivated," he said. "The litigation was the subject of ill-judged public statements by senior Danish politicians appearing to pre-judge the factual issues that would have fallen to be determined by the court". Please note that I am the subject of this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.204.253.122 (talk) 09:50, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

 Done However, I trimmed the quote provided and added some additional information from the source you provided. Spencer^T•C 06:07, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Suggestions for removal of two sentences.

I suggest the removal of two sentences:

1. "In September 2019, the authorities have so far found no evidence of fraud in the UK, Germany or Denmark"

because:

A. it implies the article was supportive of Shah.

B. the statement seems to be a defensive statement by one of Shah's representatives, rather than the newspaper's view.

C. the authorities duly found sufficient evidence of fraud to convict him.

2. "Extradition of a suspect from the United Arab Emirates has been described by a Danish expert as 'almost impossible' due to reciprocity as UAE implements death sentence for certain crimes and Denmark can't do this due to human rights concerns."

But Shah was, in fact, extradited, rendering this expert's opinion invalid and therefore irrelevant.

Sadgrove (talk) 16:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

I have removed that point made by "Danish expert", thanks for adding it here! --Molochmeditates (talk) 13:56, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

Merge proposal

I propose merging Sanjay_Shah into CumEx-Files. I think the content in Sanjay_Shah can easily be explained in the context of CumEx-Files, and a merge would not cause any article-size or weighting problems in Sanjay_Shah. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skattejagt (talk • contribs) 12:23, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose - CumEx-Files is a broader topic and as the AFDs have demonstrated, Shah is notable in his own right. If all the sources are in relation to the fraud, then WP:WEIGHT requires that our article reflects that and it is not a problem. This looks an awful lot like the latest attempt to manage his reputation (the previous 3 AFDs were all created by now-blocked sockpuppets). SmartSE (talk) 14:13, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

I only suggested this merger as the page for Paul Mora, which I created, was merged with CumEx-Files. Paul Mora was once Sanjay Shah's boss and mentor at Credit Suisse and continued business dealings with him until 2015. Paul Mora is a well known proponent of cum-ex tax fraud and is wanted by Germany under an Interpol red notice. Tax fraud in Germany is reported to be circa Eur 55 billion. I confirm I am not acting as a sock puppet but tax fraud is an area of interest for me. Thanks for listening. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skattejagt (talk • contribs) 10:18, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose - Not even sure why this is being discussed. The personal biography is, well, a biography. The CumEx-Files is a significantly broader scandal/event that affected many countries, many banks, many financial institutions, and many people. Makes no sense to merge. Editors are free to add to the CumEx Files information with RSes of course. --Molochmeditates (talk) 13:52, 21 March 2025 (UTC)