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Additional sources

Lest it be thought this cave system/expedition was largely undocumented prior to September 2015, and with an eye towards WP:RECENTISM, here are some older/additional sources that may provide useful info and perspective.

MacKinnon, Katherine C. (2014). "Contemporary Biological Anthropology in 2013: Integrative, Connected, and Relevant". American Anthropologist. 116 (2): 352–365. doi:10.1111/aman.12102.
Wong, Kate (19 August 2014). "Evolution Rewritten". Scientific American. 311 (3): 36–39. doi:10.1038/scientificamerican0914-36.
Brahic, Catherine (November 2014). "Chamber of secrets". New Scientist. 224 (2997): 40–43. doi:10.1016/S0262-4079(14)62292-2.
Bernard Wood (2015). "Rising Star". Wiley Blackwell Student Dictionary of Human Evolution. Wiley. p. 376–. ISBN 978-1-118-33574-1.

Orientation of passages

In subsection Discovery of fossils in Dinaledi Chamber is a statement that recreational cavers found a narrow, vertically oriented "chimney" or "chute." By the description, this is the Superman Crawl, which, like the Dragon's Back, is nearly horizontal. Is this some geological or speleological convention of which I am unaware, or did someone get dizzy? J S Ayer (talk) 22:08, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To add to article

To add to this article: information about the geometrical engravings on the walls of certain chambers of the Rising Star cave system, which was released to the public on June 5, 2023. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 22:41, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. -- GreenC 01:07, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

carvings

could be to maneuver in the dark via “feeling” the markings on which way to go. And only have to carry very little for one purposeful fire. 2600:1700:7890:69CF:7DFA:56DB:3E4F:ED25 (talk) 14:54, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a fair idea, to explain the origin as bread crumbs, and over time they become more elaborate, the original purpose lost to time. For Wikipedia purposes it's WP:OR but maybe there is a source for this somewhere it doesn't need to be about this particular cave. -- GreenC 16:25, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Proposal

Merging Underground Astronauts into the Rising Star Cave article: there is quite a bit of overlap between the two articles. Besides the names and affiliations of the researchers and a bit of context, the article is entirely restated in Rising Star Cave. Also, the subject’s notability is questionable: although this nickname has been used by the media, the articles that use this nickname in their titles or text focus on the cave & fossils more than the details of the researchers involved. PaulTheBoatman10 (talk) 11:09, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support No reason to separate these topics and agree with the overlap and lack of notability to create a separate article. "Lumping" vs. "Splitting" is always an issue with articles, but unless there is a compelling reason to split, it's better for readers to have the information in one place. -- GreenC 14:04, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've copied over the missing information and merged the articles. PaulTheBoatman10 (talk) 16:51, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@PaulTheBoatman10: Your 'merged' version was missing almost all of the content from Underground Astronauts? – Joe (talk) 08:10, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Joe Roe: What content was missing? Rising Star Cave already contained ~90% of the info on Underground Astronauts. PaulTheBoatman10 (talk) 08:17, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Information on their recruitment from the lead and controversy section; the description of their work from the 'The Rising Star Expedition'; any biographical details beyond their names. – Joe (talk) 08:38, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]