Talk:Richard L. Morrill/GA1

GA review

Passed. IAWW (talk) 08:57, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: PCN02WPS (talk · contribs) 21:39, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: It is a wonderful world (talk · contribs) 15:33, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this! Looks to be another great article from you. IAWW (talk) 15:33, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@It is a wonderful world You are too kind! Thanks for another great review, everything is fixed or responded to below! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 08:13, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@PCN02WPS, thank you. I am happy with all of your changes and explanations. Nice work. IAWW (talk) 08:53, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, after you sent me the scans of the Ganfield sources, I have been using your method of annotating the book itself and then writing based on the annotations later. I have found it really great and better than trying to write as I read. IAWW (talk) 08:56, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Prose (Criteria 1a, 1b, 4) clock

Lead

he prioritized keeping Salem's focus on the liberal arts and he completed roughly half of a $12.2 million fundraiser: Add a comma (CINS)

Done. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 07:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Early life and education

Looks good :)

Start in academia and president of Salem, 1967–1981

provost: This is quite a technical term, could it be linked/rephrased/explained?

Linked to Provost (education). PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 07:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

He also noted his focus of Salem exclusively...: Do you mean "His focus on keeping Salem exclusively..." or something similar? It doesn't quite make sense as is.

Yep, missed "keeping" there. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 07:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

which was scheduled to open by September 1982 at a total cost of $2.1 million: Do we know if it ever opened?

Searching the name of the student life center in Newspapers.com for 1982 in North Carolina turned up really only this, which indicates that, at least by September 26, the building was open. Combined with the fact that they call it "new" and that September was the scheduled opening date, I feel comfortable enough saying "which opened in September 1982" here

Centre College, 1982–1988

Could "commencement speaker" be linked, explained or reworded?

Linked commencement speech. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 07:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Could you give a brief explanation of what the "Kentucky Governor's Scholars Program" is? We don't want the reader to have to follow links. MOS:NOFORCELINK

Added "a five-week, residential academic enrichment experience". PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 07:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

announced a $33 million fundraiser: Do we know whether this was finished?

Indeed, sentence added. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 07:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

By the time he left Centre, the school's endowment had reached $230 million, faculty salaries had grown by 60 percent, and enrollment reached a record-high 850 students: I think "had reached" is better tense matching

Added. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 07:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

University of Richmond, 1988–1998

Looks good :)

Post-presidency, 1998–present

Morrill became president of the Teagle Foundation in 2010: Without any explanation of what the Teagle Foundation is, this is rather meaningless. IAWW (talk) 15:33, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I didn't quite think they needed a redlink but forgot to consider the worth of leaving that there on its own. I added a little explanation - sourcing to a press release by them isn't great but I tried to explain it very plainly. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 07:59, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good now! IAWW (talk) 08:53, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life

Sources clock

Sources comments based on this version.

Health/formatting (Criterion 2a) clock

Thank you for making all the news clippings freely available.

[4] is broken. IAWW (talk) 15:33, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Manually archived this - I will be able to get to the rest of the comments later today! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 13:00, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reliability (Criterion 2b) Y

Two university website biographies, a lot of newspapers and a few other reliable sources. I see no issue here.

Spot check (Criteria 2b, 2c, 2d) clock

[2a]: Y

[2b, 3a]: Y

[10a]: Y

[21]: Y

[26]: Y

[37]: Almost, just doesn't support the exact figure. I think this could be changed to an approximation in the article as in the source to be honest. IAWW (talk) 15:33, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I got to that figure by adding the $210,473 salary with the $45,058 in benefits - if you think an approximation would work better for flow I'm not married to the idea of having the full number written out though I do think it looks better for consistency's sake PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 08:04, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, somehow I missed this. I think it is good how it is. IAWW (talk) 08:53, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[41]: Y

Copyvio (Criterion 2d) Y

Earwig finds a bit of close paraphrasing, but I don't think any are long enough to be a copyright violation.

I changed up the wording on one that was a little too close for my liking in the first section. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 08:06, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Scope (Criteria 3a, 3b) Y

His whole life is included.

Stable (Criterion 5) Y

Media clock

Tags (Criterion 6a) Y

Appropriately tagged

Captions (Criterion 6b) Y

Good captions

Suggestions (not needed for GA promotion)

He was the commencement speaker at the school's graduation on May 30, 1982.[13] He officially assumed office on June 1, 1982,[14] and he was formally inaugurated as Centre's 18th president on Apri 23, 1983: Triple "he" is bad for flow IAWW (talk) 15:33, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reworked the start of the second sentence to combine it with the first PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 08:08, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is more information on his 6 year tenure at Centre than his 10 year tenure at Richmond which seems odd. IAWW (talk) 15:33, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I noticed this too. I'm guessing it's a combination of my availability/familiarity with Centre-related sources vs. Richmond and a sense that he was more impactful at Centre since running a large university vs. a small liberal arts college can make similar-level achievements look very different just based on the sheer difference of resources PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 08:11, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"academic year" could be linked IAWW (talk) 15:33, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 08:12, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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