Talk:Pick-up (filmmaking)

Planning to take out the "News reporting" section

It is clear that whomever inserted that does not understand the point of pick-up shots or reshoots. Reaction shots are something planned for in advance.

Pick-up shots or reshoots by definition are contingency situations. They are an anticipated risk, in the same way that one anticipates the risk of car accidents or plane crashes, but by definition are not planned for. After all, if such issues had shown up during pre-production planning, the production team would have fixed them well before principal photography began. --Coolcaesar (talk) 18:36, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect insertion of commas

User:Top5a keeps inserting commas in strange places.

The first one in the first paragraph is fairly debatable, so I'm not challenging that.

However, the second and third commas are flatly incorrect. (I scored a perfect score on the verbal portion of the SAT when it was much harder than today, and in the 99% percentile on the LSAT, so I have some idea of what I am talking about.)

The first sentence is: "In deciding whether to proceed, the director and producer must carefully balance the substantial expense of reuniting key cast and crew members on set against whether pick-ups or re-shoots are absolutely necessary to fix plot holes (or worse) in the final cut."

This is a grammatically correct sentence. The standard idiom in American English is that the "balance ... against" construction does not require a comma before "against", because the "against" in this context is operating as a conjunction in its own right.

The second sentence is: "For example, if the original costumers or makeup artists are unavailable (or if rented costumes and wigs were returned and original makeup supplies were entirely used up), then their replacements must study their predecessors' work and precisely match whatever was used during the original film shoot."

Again, this is grammatically correct. "Must" is a modal verb which modifies the verbs "study" and "match," linked by the conjunction "and". No comma is required after "work" because the entire clause after "then" has only two subordinate clauses linked by the word "and". If there were three or more subordinate clauses (setting out what the "replacements" must do), then I would agree that commas would be appropriate in that context. Coolcaesar (talk) 19:48, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

>I scored a perfect score on the verbal portion of the SAT when it was much harder than today, and in the 99% percentile on the LSAT, so I have some idea of what I am talking about.

Stopped reading right there. Please review WP:VERECUNDIAM. Furthermore, if you had taken the old SAT, you would know that it never tested for comma usage in this manner.

Please cease your repeated reverts. You neither WP:OWN any one article on enwiki, nor, contrary to your delusions, do you comprise a one person WP:CON. Top5a (talk) 20:39, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you had taken the old SAT, you would be aware that mastery of proper punctuation was absolutely essential to achieve a high score on the sentence completion and reading comprehension questions.

And you didn't respond to my grammar analysis at all. Can you point to any examples of recent articles published in reliable sources that use commas in your preferred manner? --Coolcaesar (talk) 08:08, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that their use of commas is very strange. It will be a bitter pill for them to swallow if they have been using commas in this manner for much of their life. Seasider53 (talk) 10:34, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]