Talk:Orthohepevirus A

HEV

Is this the same family as the HEV in coxsackie viruses? If not, a little info would be nice in case someone is looking for the other abbreviation. 76.97.245.5 (talk) 22:52, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 1 May 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:25, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hepatitis E virus → Orthohepevirus A – Current name on ICTV since 2014 Nessie (talk) 16:47, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:51, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@NessieVL and BarrelProof: queried move request Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:54, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
And what about WP:COMMONNAME? —BarrelProof (talk) 20:22, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe we need to use the specie name as the article title. From the ICTV's summary: The species Orthohepevirus A includes hepatitis E virus (HEV), which is usually responsible for self-limited acute hepatitis in humans and several mammalian species, but may become chronic in immunocompromised humans. So, the current article title would be referring to the "hepatitis E virus" of the Orthohepevirus A species, and not the species name "Hepatitis E virus". – Þjarkur (talk) 23:53, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Move - @Þjarkur: you are confusing the name of the member virus with the former species name. Orthohepevirus A is monotypic and only has one member virus, so the species name would prevail. @BarrelProof: WP:NAMECHANGES is more relevant, especially as Hepatitis E exists as a separate article.--Nessie (talk) 02:19, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Move and leave a redirect. Having a separate article on the disease Hepatitis E actually makes life easier. Graham Beards (talk) 06:44, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Use the current name for the species. Plantdrew (talk) 19:15, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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@CFA:: this article was moved in 2019 as a result of this RM discussion. It should not have been moved back without opening another discussion — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:35, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, sorry, I missed that. Reverted. C F A 21:44, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CFA: @MSGJ: The common name should take priority over "Orthohepevirus A", which is an obsolete scientific name. HEV's current scientific name is Paslahepevirus balayani,[1] which shouldn't be the article title either. Having the title be anything other than "Hepatitis E virus" means this article won't show up high in search results, and people who are sick with hepatitis E aren't going to be searching for "orthohepevirus A" or "Paslahepevirus balayani".

Google Search returns ~1.91 million results for "hepatitis E virus" and ~11.9k for "orthohepevirus A". (~160x more common)

Google Scholar returns ~114k results for "hepatitis E virus" and ~13.3k for "orthohepevirus A" (~9x more common)

PubMed returns ~6.1k results for "hepatitis E virus" and 51 results for "orthohepevirus A" (~120x more common)

In my opinion, the article shouldn't have been moved to "Orthohepevirus A" to begin with. Velayinosu (talk) 03:42, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You can start a new RM to discuss the merits. C F A 13:56, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The clinical significance of HEV in pregnancy

The most important to add is the clinical significance of HEV in pregnancy in which the HEV infection, especially in the 3rd trimester, may lead to fulminant liver failure and maternal death. It is also dangerous in the immunocompromised. 84.205.241.2 (talk) 16:16, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong article. This covered here Hepatitis_E#Infection_in_pregnancy. Graham Beards (talk) 16:36, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 11 March 2025

It has been proposed in this section that Orthohepevirus A be renamed and moved to Hepatitis E virus.

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Orthohepevirus A → Hepatitis E virus – See my comment above.[2] Pinging everyone involved in the prior discussion. @Awkwafaba: @BarrelProof: @Graham Beards: @Plantdrew: Velayinosu (talk) 23:20, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like the current species name is Paslahepevirus balayani, so that is my vote. awkwafaba (📥) 23:55, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I support the proposal. The new ICTV binomial naming scheme and its relevance to our article's names has been discussed here, where it was agreed that these names might not be the best titles, and that we "should proceed with caution". I think in this case WP:COMMONNAME now applies. This publication gives an excellent account of when and when not to use the ICTV binomial names. [3] Graham Beards (talk) 09:55, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support per above. Rreagan007 (talk) 06:08, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Question: Are these terms synonymous? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:15, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To all intents and purposes, yes. Strictly speaking the binomial name is the name of the species (which is a concept) and the common name is the name of the actual physical object i.e. the virus. (Just like "poet's daffodil" and "Narcissus poeticus" are synonymous).This is explained in the Simmonds paper given in my comment above. Graham Beards (talk) 18:50, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]