Talk:Oregon Public Broadcasting
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Proposed: Update Introduction
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- Specific text to be added or removed: Change first sentence to read "Oregon Public Broadcasting (OPB) is the primary television, radio and digital public broadcasting organization ..."
- Reason for the change: Existing text does not mention that OPB produces digital content.
- References supporting change:https://www.opb.org/shows/
jdbauxt (talk) 05:07, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Text to change:
- In second paragraph
- From: "OPB is also ..."
- To: "OPB has been ..."
- In third paragraph
- From: "OPB had over one million viewers throughout its region and an average of over 380,000 radio listeners each week"
- To: "OPB-TV had more than one million viewers throughout its region and OPB Radio had an average of more than 380,000 listeners each week."
- In second paragraph
- Reason for change: Improved clarity
- References: NA
jdbauxt (talk) 00:44, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Text to change: Change first paragraph to read as follows; please preserve existing links:
"Oregon Public Broadcasting (OPB) is the primary public media organization for the U.S. state of Oregon as well as southern Washington. It provides news, information, and programming via five full-power television stations, dozens of VHF or UHF translators, on more than 20 radio stations and frequencies, and via opb.org and other digital platforms. TV broadcasts include local and regional programming as well as programs from the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS), American Public Television (APT), and radio programs from National Public Radio (NPR), American Public Media (APM), Public Radio Exchange (PRX), and the BBC World Service, among other distributors. Its headquarters and television studios are located in Portland."
- Reason for change: Improved readability.
- References NA
jdbauxt (talk) 00:51, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Question: Are there any sources that can be added to this section of text? Encoded Talk to me! 15:46, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
Not done: The changes are not supported by neutral, independent, reliable sources. Please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Encoded Talk 💬 22:59, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Please see citations in related article sections: Television stations, Translators, and Radio stations
- Thanks!
- jdbauxt (talk) 22:01, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Here's an article detailing Oregon's media landscape and associated research showing OPB's status relative to other media orgs in the region.
- jdbauxt (talk) 21:46, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Improved Readability & Mention of opb.org
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- Text to change: Change first paragraph to read as follows; please preserve existing links:
"Oregon Public Broadcasting (OPB) is the primary public media organization for the U.S. state of Oregon as well as southern Washington. It provides news, information, and programming via television stations, dozens of VHF or UHF translators, on more than 20 radio stations and frequencies, and via opb.org and other digital platforms. TV broadcasts include local and regional programming as well as programs from the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS), American Public Television (APT), and radio programs from National Public Radio (NPR), American Public Media (APM), Public Radio Exchange (PRX), and the BBC World Service, among other distributors. Its headquarters and television studios are located in Portland, Oregon."
- Text to change: Remove second paragraph, starting "OPB has been a major producer ..."
- Reason for changes: Improved readability. Removing dated information.
- References: Oregon's media landscape, research showing OPB's role as primary public media org
jdbauxt (talk) 17:46, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Randomstaplers just following up on this old edit request. Haven't had any movement on it. Thanks! jdbauxt (talk) 00:20, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie Wondering if you can help with this. It's been a sitting a while. Thanks!
jdbauxt (talk) 23:20, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
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- Text to change: Remove sentence from last paragraph "As of 2006, OPB-TV had more than one million viewers throughout its region and OPB Radio had an average of more than 380,000 listeners each week."
- Reason for change: Unsourced and out of date. Page more maintainable if omitted.
- References: NA
jdbauxt (talk) 02:51, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Done Encoded Talk 💬 07:41, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Done I've omitted the domain, since we don't allow external links in the body. By the way, I would advise against copying from the source rather than the article itself, so it'll be easier for us to edit.
Also, when formatting talk page requests, don't put in line breaks; put in a second-level heading, like this: === Section title === ⸺(Random)staplers 23:13, 18 August 2024 (UTC)- @Jdbauxt Another reason why you shouldn't put in page breaks: it breaks our tools. By the way, if you ever encounter an issue or a mistake in the future, make sure to @ me.⸺(Random)staplers 23:17, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Randomstaplers Thanks for the tip on line breaks!
- Regarding copying from source vs the article itself: Is this to retain formatting?
- Also, should this thread be moved up to the previous section (before the last line break) since that is the relevant request?
- Sorry for any missteps; learning as I go here :)
- Thanks!
- jdbauxt (talk) 01:09, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Jdbauxt Don't worry about this section; all the edit requests here are done. All I'm saying is if you want to open a new edit request, you should do it in a new section with "===". As for copying, the reason why you should copy the source is because I can't ensure links are preserved without manually typing out your changes, which is time-consuming.⸺(Random)staplers 01:13, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Randomstaplers Makes sense. Thanks!
- jdbauxt (talk) 01:20, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Jdbauxt Don't worry about this section; all the edit requests here are done. All I'm saying is if you want to open a new edit request, you should do it in a new section with "===". As for copying, the reason why you should copy the source is because I can't ensure links are preserved without manually typing out your changes, which is time-consuming.⸺(Random)staplers 01:13, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Done Sorry for the delay, @jdbauxt; first paragraph now updated. If I've missed anything please feel free to ping me. StartGrammarTime (talk) 03:36, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
Proposed: Update History
[edit]21st century
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- Text to change:
- Remove paragraph "In 2007, OPB Radio added World Have Your Say ... after three years."
- Reason for change: Peripheral relevance.
- References: NA
jdbauxt (talk) 06:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Text to change: In paragraph beginning "On December 4, 2007, OPB launched ..."
- Change "OPBmusic" to "opbmusic"
- Insert as second sentence "As of December 11, 2020, OPB discontinued the opbmusic HD radio and online audio stream and integrated opbmusic multimedia content into its broader arts and culture reporting."
- Reason for change: Bringing up to date.
- References: https://www.wweek.com/music/2020/12/04/oregon-public-broadcastings-online-music-channel-will-cease-streaming-next-week/
jdbauxt (talk) 20:39, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Text to change:
- Remove paragraph beginning "In 2010, OPB won ..."
- Remove paragraph and associated bullets beginning "On June 7, 2014 ..."
- Reason for change: Adding new section for awards & recognition soon that will cover topic.
- References: NA
jdbauxt (talk) 21:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
Not done for now: Per objections of answering editor to below request. Justarandomamerican (talk) Have a good day! 12:43, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- The proposed addition below was declined on grounds that it may be promotional. The same could be said of this information. Given that this info is also quite dated, removal seems safe. Thank you!
- jdbauxt (talk) 22:25, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Text to change:
- Remove paragraph beginning "In 2010, OPB won ..."
- Remove paragraph and associated bullets beginning "On June 7, 2014 ..."
- Reason for change: Information may be promotional and is quite dated.
- References: NA
jdbauxt (talk) 21:36, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Proposed: Update Podcasting
[edit]- Text to change: Change second sentence to read "For instance, in 2008 OPB started a podcast version of its daily radio show in 2008 called Think Out Loud." [ Please retain citations ]
- Reason for change: Clarifies that this show is broadcast as well as podcast.
- References: NA
jdbauxt (talk) 23:27, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Done Mvcg66b3r (talk) 23:39, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jdbauxt: I'm not sure if this clarifies that this is the same show, rather than something in a similar style. Maybe wording something like "also began distributing ... as a podcast?" Maybe the current wording is clear to everyone else. LittlePuppers (talk) 23:41, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
Proposed: New Section
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- Text to change: Please add a new section entitled "Awards & Recognition" after Podcasting section with text as follows:
OPB has received numerous industry awards for its journalism and storytelling, including Regional Emmys from the Northwest Chapter of the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences, Society of Professional Journalists (SPJ) Northwest Excellence in Journalism Awards, Regional Edward R. Murrow Awards from the Radio Television Digital News Association (RTDNA), John B. Oakes Award from the Columbia School of Journalism, MIT Knight Science Journalism Program’s Victor K. McElheny Award, Telly Awards, Online News Association (ONA) Online Journalism Awards, Gracie Awards, Associated Press Television-Radio Association (APTRA) Awards, National Headliner Awards and more.
- Reason for change: Clarity and maintainability.
- References: Included in text.
jdbauxt (talk) 22:12, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
Not done May be promotional. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 00:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for having a look. Please note I had previously submitted another COI edit request (still active) to remove the bulleted list of awards in History/21st century section. The thinking is that instead of listing all the awards ever won by OPB, we would simply give a good general representation here along with a link out to a more comprehensive list. With that in mind, what do you suggest? jdbauxt (talk) 06:05, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Jdbauxt I am joining this a little late after running across Agnes in another context. My suggestion would be to focus on national journalism awards, such as the Peabody (you have one, from 2009) and duPont–Columbia (you have one, also from 2009). This will reduce the massive cruft that any other use of awards would represent. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for having a look. Please note I had previously submitted another COI edit request (still active) to remove the bulleted list of awards in History/21st century section. The thinking is that instead of listing all the awards ever won by OPB, we would simply give a good general representation here along with a link out to a more comprehensive list. With that in mind, what do you suggest? jdbauxt (talk) 06:05, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Proposed: Replace "Podcasting" section with new "Original programming" section
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Requested edit (updated as of April 8, 2025):
Section heading: Original programming
OPB produces original audio and video content for distribution across multiple channels including TV, radio, and online podcasting or streaming services.
Notable podcast series include Bundyville, a deep-dive investigation of the beliefs and politics behind the 2014 Bundy standoff, the 2016 Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, and the sovereign citizen movement. Its second season aired in 2019 with a broadened focus on right-wing and anti-government extremism in the United States. Long-running programs include OPB Politics Now and Think Out Loud, both of which have been on air since 2008. The newest series The Evergreen is a weekly podcast highlighting stories from across the Pacific Northwest.
Notable TV and video productions include Oregon Field Guide and Oregon Art Beat, which first premiered in 1990 and 1999 respectively.
Title | Release Date | Subject | Ended? | Ref. |
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All Science. No Fiction. | April 18, 2022 | Science and Nature | No | [1] |
Class of 2025 | December 11, 2013 | Education | No | [2] |
Oregon Art Beat | 1999 | Art and Culture | No | [3] |
Oregon Experience | June 16, 2006 | History | No | [4] |
Oregon Field Guide | April 16, 1990 | Nature | No | [5] |
Superabundant | November 23, 2021 | Food | No | [6] |
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- This is an odd structure for conveying this information, and I do not think it's the right one, either. A lot of programs and especially podcasts do come and go and should come and go accordingly (unless they become notable products and in that case, when they go, belong in the History section). But information about current programming belongs in prose. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:12, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree with some points from Sammi Brie above. I think listing programming currently being produced by OPB is appropriate but I agree that shows that are no longer being made belong in the history section. Inline citations need to be provided, possibly in a separate ref column. These would preferably be to secondary (non OPB) sources and using the <ref> tag rather than direct links to show websites (which is what WP:ELMIN is referring to). Several of the links in the existing prose can be used for this. I think some of the existing prose should be retained. Additionally, I would title the section as Local programming or something similar. I don't think current shows need to be especially notable to be listed in table format like this, though care should be taken so they are not given undue weight. DJ Cane (he/him) (Talk) 14:12, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Sammi Brie and @DJ Cane, thank you very much for your insights, and I apologize for the long delay (life happened). Also, I noticed that the content in my tables were generating a whole section at the bottom of this page, so I removed them from my original request above.
- I'm currently working on modifying/clarifying my request, and wanted to ask if this would be a better direction to go in:
- Replace the current "Podcasting" section with a "Original programming" section, which will cover both audio (radio/podcast) and video (TV/online) programs. I'm leaning towards "original" rather than "local" because 1) the content reach is global, and 2) it seems to be in more widespread use these days (e.g. List of Netflix original programming, List of HBO original programming).
- Specifically for the podcasts portion of it, I'll follow Sammi's suggestion and include a prose description of the current and most notable series, and also link to a new List of OPB podcasts page (currently in my sandbox), following the style of List of BBC podcasts.
- If the above sounds good, replicate for the non-podcast items.
- Thank you again for any feedback! AgnesOshiro (talk) 05:21, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- I see nothing wrong with this approach. DJ Cane (he/him) (Talk) 14:10, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Sammi Brie and @DJ Cane, I've published the List of OPB Podcasts page and updated my original request as above for your (and anyone else's, of course) review/feedback. For the TV/video programs, I chose to highlight Oregon Field Guide and Oregon Art Beat because they've been running for decades, and I also included a table with other programs for reference purposes. I'm happy to include more information about specific series/programs, but I wanted to check in first to see if this looked okay. AgnesOshiro (talk) 18:22, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- I see nothing wrong with this approach. DJ Cane (he/him) (Talk) 14:10, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
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