Talk:Native American people and Mormonism

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The recent undiscussed move has been undone. The article appears to have been created under this name, and has remained stable since. Any move should be the result of discussion and consensus. Please see WP:RM#CM and follow the guideline there for how to list this page for a move to your desired title. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 04:59, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccurate & fabricated information

This article presents false beliefs and actions of the people of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. It claims acts of slavery, child labor, and murder among other fabricated information. It has almost no sources for the negative information it presents, and what is cited either links to an unfound website, is unreliable and opinion based only, or does not reflect what the article would suggest the source would. The author’s ignorance on the subject is further made clear with the inaccurate terminology and language used. This author clearly has no evidence for the claims he or she is making, and is presenting a false and damaging narrative. Amyxoxo26 (talk) 03:20, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Almost no sources?? Did you look at the references? 181.238.32.104 (talk) 14:16, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct it is extremely inaccurate, it does not accurately depict the disgusting atrocities and genocide, the Mormon people committed against the Native American people of the Midwest… source sight, my Grandmother,who’s father was adopted due to his entire village being slaughtered by religious zealots 75.174.127.77 (talk) 08:00, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Almost no sources". Lol, there's over 120 and they're solid. This person's rant is so cringe. The slavery, child labor, and murders are undisputed historic fact. Every single statement in the article is backed up by reputable, independent, academic sources. Just because they don't teach it in Sunday school because the truth makes early LDS leaders look racist and violent, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Google is free. Please provide sources for your vague claims of ignorance and wholesale fabrication of a "false and damaging" narrative. The facts don't care about how we feel about them, and whining won't change history. Please come prepared with sources and specifics and review the existing sources if you're going to make such inflammatory, disruptive claims against what the thoroughly sourced statements in the article show. Pastelitodepapa (talk) 08:01, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Pastelitodepapa Please do not edit other users' messages except for special circumstances, of which adding [cn]s is not one. Talk pages are not required to follow Wikipedia's article quality guidelines. See WP:TPO. — gabldotink [ talk | contribs | global account ] 20:29, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Massacres of LDS adherents by Native American people"

The section "Massacres of LDS adherents by Native American people" isn't given a justification or introduction for its appearance in the article. Does the article on Japanese war crimes have lists of war crimes by other peoples on the Japanese? It feels like an introduction of false balance. Either this section should be introduced with sources or removed. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 03:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is "Native American people and Mormonism". It doesn't go one way. The section is sourced as well. — gabldotink [ talk | contribs | global account ] 20:30, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with gabldotink. Obviously the invading white colonizers that stole land and resources and genocided the original inhabitants are the primary aggressors, but it would not be NPOV for an overview article like this to deliberately exclude relevant massacres with their own Wikipedia articles and academic sources because the victims were Mormons. If this were a spinoff, in-depth article titled "Mormon violence against Native Americans" that would be a different story, of course. Pastelitodepapa (talk) 21:51, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]