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Taqi al-Din al-Subki

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Can someone add Taqi al-Din al-Subki to 7th century please Galaxy21ultra (talk) 19:52, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Il existe au Soudan en Afrique subsaharienne , plus précisément au Sénégal , Le Mudjaddid de son époque , il s’agit de Cheikh Ahmadou Mbacké Khadimoul Rassoul 41.214.76.189 (talk) 13:56, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mahmud Efendi

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Shaikh Mahmud Efendi an-Naqshbandi al-Mujaddidi al-Khalidi can be added to the Mujaddids of the 14. century. He is often claimed to be the Mujaddid of this century. The sources often say 15. century but the century starting in 1979/1980 is meant.

These would be the sources: https://www.ismailaga.org.tr/hicri-15-asrin-muceddidi https://kashmirreader.com/2022/06/29/sheikh-mahmud-effendi-the-great-orator-of-islam/ Davut al-Maturidi (talk) 14:53, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Heretic

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The activities of a Mujadid is like a heretical person, for those individuals in political office.

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Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2024

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182.185.181.63 (talk) 08:23, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Add the name of Naseer udin Naseer in the list of renewers of 14th century.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 08:30, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sources:
  • Husamul Haramain
  • The 1974 fatwa on the Ahmadiyya community by Al- Azhar
  • The Evidence - Section 18: 'Fatwas' of 'Kufr'
  • The Problem With Maulana Maududi’s Understanding Of The Quran - II
    • Muhammad Amin jilani (talk) 10:39, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Proposal to Remove Controversial Names from Mujaddid Article

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    Hello,

    I would like to propose the removal of the following names from the Mujaddid article:

    • Mahmud Hasan Deobandi (1851–1920)
    • Ashraf Ali Thanwi (1863–1943)
    • Abul A'la Maududi (1903–1979)
    • Syed Ahmad Khan (1817–1898)
    • Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835–1908)

    These individuals are considered controversial in Islamic theological discourse. Below, I outline the reasons for their removal or, alternatively, for including a section in the article that provides balanced details on the controversies surrounding them.

    1. Mahmud Hasan Deobandi and Ashraf Ali Thanwi

    According to Husam-ul-Haramain, a theological work by Ahmad Raza Khan, figures associated with the Deobandi school of thought, including Mahmud Hasan Deobandi and Ashraf Ali Thanwi, are explicitly declared to be outside the fold of Sunni Islam. This book is widely regarded as a significant reference among Sunni Islamic communities.

    Source: Husam-ul-Haramain

    2. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

    Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, founder of the Ahmadiyya movement, is regarded as a controversial figure in Islamic theology. The majority of Sunni and Shia Muslims have declared his teachings and followers as outside the fold of Islam.

    • Evidence 1: The 1974 fatwa on the Ahmadiyya community by the Muslim World League officially declared the Ahmadiyya community as non-believers (kafir).
    • Evidence 2: Additional documentation can be found here, outlining theological evidence and arguments against Ahmadiyya teachings.

    3. Abul A'la Maududi

    Abul A'la Maududi’s theological views have been the subject of significant controversy within the Muslim world. This raises questions about his inclusion as a Mujaddid, a figure traditionally considered a reviver of Islamic faith and practice.

    Critique of His Understanding of Islam:

    An article in Naya Daur (March 2020), titled The Problem with Maulana Maududi’s Understanding of the Quran, The Book Tafheem-ul-Quran controversy outlines the problematic aspects of Maududi’s interpretations of Islamic teachings. Scholars and critics argue that his views diverge significantly from traditional Sunni Islamic theology.

    Controversial Statements in Pardah (1939):

    In Maududi’s book Pardah, certain passages have been criticized for their tone and content. For example, on page 152, he refers to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) as:

    "Ya Kanun Ragistan-e-Arab ka ek unpadh chawaha na duniya ka samna pash kiya"
    (Translation: "O Law of the Arabian Desert, an unlettered leader presented to the world.")

    This statement, among others, has been perceived as disrespectful by many Islamic scholars and communities, particularly regarding its reference to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

    Divisive Reception Among Scholars:

    Maududi’s views were formally challenged by scholars associated with Husam-ul-Haramain, who declared his interpretations of Islamic law and history incompatible with traditional Sunni beliefs.

    Proposal

    Given the above controversies and theological debates, I propose the following actions:

    1. Remove these names from the list of Mujaddids, as their inclusion does not align with the traditional criteria for Mujaddids due to widespread theological disagreements.
    2. Alternatively, add a section detailing the controversies surrounding these figures with proper references to maintain a neutral and balanced approach.

    I am happy to provide additional sources or collaborate further on this matter to ensure the article remains neutral, verifiable, and in alignment with Wikipedia's standards.

    Thank you for considering this proposal.

    Best regards,
    Muhammad Amin Jilani

    Muhammad Amin jilani (talk) 10:30, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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