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Cyprus and Armenia

Cyprus and Armenia are not geographically located in Europe. They are only associated with Europe, and thus should be removed from the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A44E:FA4A:0:70B8:89BD:B14C:13B1 (talk) 01:06, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This has been discussed time and time again. Consensus is that they are to be included, with notes explaining their geography. Archives908 (talk) 01:46, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cyprus, Turkey and Armenia are European. ethnically and geographically. Turkey is unique because it is European and Asian, it straddles the European Asian border. 176.223.172.189 (talk) 07:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kazakhstan? No

How is Kazakhstan part of Europe? This is wrong a part of Kazakhstan borders Russia which is European majority. But it does not make Kazakhstan a European country.

You're correct that Kazakhstan is not a European country, but it does "have territory in Europe," so it falls under the current scope of this article (which, by the way, is not denominated "European sovereign states," but "sovereign states in Europe"). If you feel strongly about changing the scope of the article to exclude Kazakhstan (and presumably Georgia, Azerbaijan, Turkey, Cyprus and Armenia as well), feel free to start an RFC. Cheers, AuH2ORepublican (talk) 18:08, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again, I was looking at the article on Simple Wikipedia. The list is different. Can you assist with this? Not sure what needs to be done. 176.223.173.69 (talk) 09:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy for Turkey, Armenia and Cyprus to remain as they are because they are literally Europe. Turkey can also be considered both Europe and Asia.

Cyprus and Armenia are, geographically, wholly within the continent of Asia, so I don't understand why you characterize them as "literally Europe." (Turkey is transcontinental, though, with a small portion of its territory within Europe.) AuH2ORepublican (talk) 19:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cyprus is next to Greece. People in Cyprus are mainly Greek and Turkish. Armenia is considered Europe for some reason.

Greece

Greece is transcontinental. It controls islands that are geographically located in Asia. Why is it not included as a country with territory in both Europe and Asia? TomTom7474 (talk) 19:57, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For the simple reason that an overwhelming majority of scholarly sources do not list Greece as a transcontinental country. Please read WP:PROPORTION and WP:BALANCE. Archives908 (talk) 20:23, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Greenland is European, right?

Under Geography: "Some territories which are geographically outside of Europe have strong connections with European states. Greenland, for example, has socio-political connections with Europe and is part of the Kingdom of Denmark but is located closer to the continent of North America and is usually grouped with that continent."

The source for this is the USA (CIA) but seems wildly inaccurate - Greenland is considered European territory and grouped with Europe. Whereas other European overseas territories are not seen as part of the European landmass (if you will) that is not the case with Greenland. Given recent events and how people may read this, I feel this should at the very least be worded differently. Geographically located near North-America but as part of the Danish Realm a European territory (something like that). The 'strong connection' is also an absurd phrasing.

I am not a wiki-editor and feel uncomfortable making changes but did want to flag it. 2001:968:12:2102:0:0:0:142 (talk) 21:29, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Greenland is, geographically, within the continent of North America. See List of sovereign states and dependent territories in North America. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 21:32, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]