Talk:List of shipwrecks in December 1844

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The Shipwreck of the Alabamian

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"A Scrap of History". Harper's Weekly. Vol. XXX, no. No. 1561. Harper's Magazine Company. 20 November 1886. p. 751 col.2-4. In his speech at Cooper Union, October 22[, 1886], Mr. Hewitt, then a candidate for Mayor, now Mayor-elect, gave a sketch of his own life as an answer to some attacks made upon him as a "rich man." [ Abram S. Hewitt details the events of the December 1844 Alabamian shipwreck with brother-in-law, and future New York City Mayor, Edward Cooper ] {{cite magazine}}: |issue= has extra text (help)

From: https://books.google.com/books?id=VAY8AQAAMAAJ&newbks=0&pg=PA751#v=onepage&q=Leghorn%20Alabamian%20Atalanta&f=true

Lent (talk) 18:04, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sources are found via this Google Search: [1]

One source The Cooper-Hewitt Dynasty of New York By Polly Guérin [2] lists the Alabamian departing Leghorn (Livorno) Italy on October 10, 1844, and sank off of Cape May New Jersey. The survivors were picked up on December 22, 1844. Survivors included two New York City mayors-to-be Abram S. Hewitt and Edward Cooper.

I am uncertain of the country of the Alabamian. The date of the shipwreck seems to be either December 12th from older sources or December 22nd, 1844 which Polly Guérin in 2012 has as the date of the recovery of the survivors.

I'm having difficulty reading this detailed source from 1866 (the digitized text is hard to make out): [3] Harper's Weekly, Volume XXX, No. 1561, November 20, 1866. p. 751 which seems to quote a December 24th, 1844 account within the 1866 account putting the shipwreck on December 12th, 1844. The account by Captain Raymond of the rescuing ship Atlanta is heart warming: "...this letter, which I received, with a silver pitcher." The letter invited Captain Raymond to Mr. Peter Cooper's house. "When I called, and my name was announced, they did not wait for me to go into the parlor, but all came out into the hall to greet me; the ladies pressed around me, and I assure you it was rather embarrassing for a young seadog to receive such attention. I had done nothing more than my duty, and somehow felt that I was being thanked and praised for a good deal beyond what I merited. I tried to tell them so, but they wouldn't listen to me, and all the time I was there they made such a hero of me that I didn't know what to say, and wondered how i would be able to escape."

"None of the Cooper or Hewitt family have ever forgotten me, but, on the contrary, they miss no opportunity of referring to that incident of the 12th of December." Probably he was welcomed at the 9 Lexington Avenue mansion, not Peter Cooper's earlier home The Lost Peter Cooper House -- No. 401 Park Avenue So..

Another source also seems to say December 12th, 1844 as the shipwreck. [4]

This is Edward Hewitt commenting on researching the shipwreck in the Astor Library and finding information in the Evening Post [5]

So this is partial information at this time.

--Lent (talk) 08:40, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Updated the links, added a quote from Captain Raymond of the rescuing Atlanta

--Lent (talk) 11:23, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

best source now at top of this section --Lent (talk) 18:04, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]