Talk:List of countries by maternal mortality ratio

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Maldives

Why is Maldives listed twice here with different numbers? Lebonk (talk) 05:39, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JKPwnage: Thanks for pointing out the problem. It has been fixed by fully updating the table. --Timeshifter (talk) 23:37, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Table fully updated from single source

For more info see User:Timeshifter/Sandbox181. --Timeshifter (talk) 23:39, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How are the WHO statistics calculated?

Hey, I checked out the Swedish official statistics and following them the ratio would fluctuate wildly and the 2020 ratio would be 7.1 for example.

Would love to know how they even out in their year-to-year statistics and I think the statistics they used for 2020 were the 2019 statistics which got published in 2020. I don't know if they're all for 2019 or just the Swedish ones.

Thanks! KanInteKommaPåEttNamnVarTaget (talk) 13:55, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Learned something. See the reference:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/maternal-mortality-ratio-who-gho

Go to the chart tab and search for "Sweden". Then click the box for Sweden. Uncheck any other countries. That way you get a graph (to scale) with year-by-year data. Hover over the graph to see the rate by year. Here is Sweden graph:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/maternal-mortality-ratio-who-gho?tab=chart&country=~SWE

It has 1985 to 2020 data.

Here is Sweden and Norway graph:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/maternal-mortality-ratio-who-gho?tab=chart&country=SWE~NOR

I will update the reference with this info. --Timeshifter (talk) 18:42, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The thing I'm wondering about is why the statistics don't match with the Swedish country statistics.

https://imgur.com/a/r5dyeHV (The primary sources are in Swedish and are finicky to navigate through with no direct link, the sources are after "källa" if you'd wanna check the validity.)

The births are around 100k and the swings from year to year not shown at all in the ourworldindata/their WHO source: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/maternal-mortality-ratio-who-gho?tab=chart&country=~SWE#sources-and-processing

That means that there has to be some formula/normalisation of the statistics happening, which is the stuff I am unable to find.

About the 2020 statistic: It should show an increase from the year 2019 to 2020 as 2020 had a ratio of 7.1 (higher than 4.5) and it's a decrease on the WHO source. I can definitely see why they wouldn't present the ratios straight up as they'd show 0.9 in 2015 and 7.1 in 2020 which isn't a good representation of reality because of the sample size. I just want them to show how they do it. KanInteKommaPåEttNamnVarTaget (talk) 16:43, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. With "country statistics" I mean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Board_of_Health_and_Welfare_(Sweden)

which is the government agency responsible for the official statistics. KanInteKommaPåEttNamnVarTaget (talk) 16:50, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See the reference page:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/maternal-mortality-ratio-who-gho

That page has a detailed definition of the maternal mortality ratio. Also the various ways it is measured.

That is why most Wikipedia country list articles only use data from one source. Someone has to decide on how to massage the data.

Because otherwise it would be very difficult to maintain country lists with a couple hundred countries with a couple hundred sources. Wikipedia editors aren't qualified to vet the sources. --Timeshifter (talk) 17:36, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it was mainly a question if anyone knew how they actually handle the statistics. It was to get a better understanding of how precise the statistics would be. It's obviously impossible to get total accuracy on these things but to what degree are we talking of.

Thanks for taking the time to look into it anyhow! KanInteKommaPåEttNamnVarTaget (talk) 17:48, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]