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148 and 222?

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What's the source of that, please? When NJ Transit created route 113, they merged routes 143 (Plainfield-PABT via East 5th Street, South Avenue and Salem Road, terminus at West 7th Street and Clinton Avenue) and 222 (Dunellen-PABT via Front Street, Terrill Road, Midway Avenue, Elmora Avenue and Bayway). They cut the bus frequency clean in half at the same time.

Later on, NJT had to create alpha suffixes to alleviate the confusion that arose due to the merger of those routes (113N for the former 222 routing, re-routed via North Avenue and North Broad Street, and 113S for the former 143; they included 113X and 113Z respectively for the GSP/I-78 express trips).

Please cite where the 148 and 222 shared a timetable at one time.

A side note: At the time of the cancellation of the 222, route 115 was re-routed from Lidgerwood Avenue in Elizabeth and Park Avenue in Linden to operating via South Elmora Avenue to Rahway Avenue.

70.105.211.116 05:05, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Numbering history

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Routes that were never taken over by NJ Transit have no new number.

Company Old New Formed Notes
MEC 1 River Road Express
North Boulevard 1 88
Hudson 2 2 Secaucus-Journal Square [1]
Hudson 3 123
Hudson 4 154
4 Passaic-Rutherford [2]
North Boulevard 5 125
Hudson 6 129
MEC 6 156
6 Lower Jersey City [3]
EUHI 6 26 1927
MEC 7 159
MEC 8 158
TNJ 8 188 1926; extended to NYC 1950
MEC 9 159
MEC 10 156
Somerset 15 112 1926
TNJ 21 181 replaced streetcars 1937; extended to NYC 1951
22 22 Hillside
DeCamp 22 Caldwell-Journal Square
MEC/ICTC 30 190 1925
DeCamp Bus Lines 32 Nutley
DeCamp Bus Lines 33 West Caldwell
MEC/GSBL 35 163/164 1927
MEC/ICTC 40 171 1933
DeCamp Bus Lines 44 Bloomfield
Beviano 44 56 1916
MEC/GSBL 45 175 1935
Lakeland Bus Lines 46 Dover-Parsippany
Manhattan 51 161
Manhattan 52 161
Manhattan 53 161
Carefree Bus Lines 55 Bloomfield-Belleville
55 Jersey City-Bayonne [4]
TNJ 61 156 1959
TNJ 63 126 1939 Hoboken-New York [5]
Trackless Transit 64 97 1928
DeCamp Bus Lines 66 West Orange
TNJ 67 127 1939
Community Coach Lines 77 Morristown
DeCamp 77
TNJ 78 178 1939
Lakeland Bus Lines 78 Far Hills-Bedminster
Lakeland Bus Lines 80 Newton-Sparta-Rockaway
TNJ 82 182 1931
DeCamp Bus Lines 88 Orange
Trackless Transit 94 94 1922
TNJ 98 181 1951
DeCamp Bus Lines 99 Harrison
Red & Tan in Hudson County 99S Bayonne
TNJ 107 107 1946
Somerset 111 112 1952
TNJ 118 108 1928
124 Hackensack-Journal Square [6]
TNJ 135 115 1957
TNJ 139 116/139 1958
Somerset 140 65 1925
Somerset 141 66 1925
Somerset 143 113 1946
DeCamp 144 71 1925
DeCamp 145 Morristown-Newark
DeCamp 146 73 1923 Morristown-Newark
Somerset 148 114 1948
TNJ 165 165 1939
TNJ 166 166 1939
TNJ 167 167 1939
TNJ 168 168 1946
TNJ 191 191 1948
TNJ 192 192 1948
TNJ 193 193
MEC 194 194
MEC 195 195
MEC 196 196
MEC 197 197
Somerset 222 113 1952

Splitting the GWB Routes

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Would it be preferrable to separate the 170-189 series routes as it's own table as opposed to placing them in the same table as Bergen County routes? Ctrabs74 11:52, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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July 2025 Update

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Hi all,

I am writing this message in order to summarize the significant changes I have made to this article, without and with my account, from the start of this month to now. When I first picked up this article it was a complete mess--missing or inaccurate information, different terms for the same thing, ungrammatical English, poor organization, a gross lack of sources even for easily verifiable recent developments, etc. I'm still not done with it--the schedules still have to be inserted, and I have to include 159R, for example. But I have finished most of what I want to do, so I figured it would be prudent to summarize all of my change here in order for you all to easily understand them and my reasoning, especially since I didn't explain any of them previously on this talk page.

So here the main points:

- Standardized terminology. In particular, there were two main terms used to describe rush hour service: Weekday Peak Hour Service Only and Weekday Rush Hours Only, with variations in capitalization and wording (sometimes "rush" was substituted for "peak", and once it was written as "Limited Rush Hour Service Only"). Usually the direction of rush hour service was included as well, though there were plenty of cases where this was arbitrarily omitted. I have chosen to make "Weekday Rush Hours Only" standard for the whole article. It's concise, it's easily grasped ("rush hour" is more ubiquitous and colloquial sounding than "peak hour"), and it doesn't fill up the whole box. I have also eliminated the information about direction of service except where the route does not operate like a traditional commuter service (i.e. to New York in the morning and to New Jersey in the evening); this was done to eliminate repetition and obviousness. Instead, it is clarified in the article summary how this information is presented.

- Added sources. Generally, for any changes to routes that occurred after 2001, I was able to verify them through web searches, forum posts with links to reliable sources, and archived material. Many of you who (kindly) made updates to the article about recent service changes neglected to add sources--for example, there was a link to the Decamp replacement service announcement, but not to anything confirming the change to the current route numbers. NJ Transit archives its official press releases, but deletes its service advisories, no matter whether the information in the advisories is of equal importance to what they choose to permanently store on their website. In this case, the route number changes were in an advisory that had long been deleted, and only by the skin of my teeth did I manage to find an archived version of it. There was almost no news reporting about the change.

So in the future, whenever you make updates, ALWAYS cite your sources, and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ARCHIVE THEM. If you had done this already, my job would have been a lot easier.

For anything before 2001, and for anything about the origins of the routes, I am completely stumped. If anyone could tell me where I can find a reliable source of information for those facts, or if you could add those sources yourself, I would greatly appreciate it.

- Removed outdated or inaccurate information. There was a bit about Sunday service being added on the 115 as of 4/2/22. I managed to confirm that there was a pilot program introducing Sunday service on this route and a bunch of others from a news article, but as to when the service was actually officially added, I had to go down a very discouraging rabbit hole until I finally looked up just the date, found there was a service advisory for changes beginning that day, and saw no information for 115 Sunday service in it. Either I went down the wrong track entirely or someone got their dates mixed up. Either way, I was unable to confirm it and it doesn't particularly matter anyway, so I got rid of it. Again, PLEASE CITE YOUR SOURCES and ARCHIVE THEM.

- Eliminated excessive information and set new parameters. Someone added a whole bunch of information about niche short turns on the 119 route (apparently signed 119B, 119P, and 119T). But when I looked up the schedule they weren't there (though I did see some short turns, none were given any special letters). Now, I did see some Street View footage which showed a 119B bus, so undoubtedly at some point this was true and relevant, but even then, if we described every little aspect of every route this way the article would never end. I have therefore only kept enough information for this article to be used as a general guide; the specifics are what the schedules are for.

So then, what do I define as specifics? Generally, I have shied away from including short turns made only by one or two trips, the times in hours and minutes that these trips operate, what service operates at all times, and every single street traveled. I have confined myself to just the most commonly made short turns (for example, the 156R short turn at GWB Plaza), general time of day (terms like late nights, Weekday Rush Hours Only, weekends, and select trips should be good enough), and just a few streets. I make sure to include every route variant I am aware of; however, I don't describe the way they operate in great detail. For example, service on the 126 to Hamilton Park operates via either Willow Avenue or Washington Street. Here I just say that service operates via Willow Avenue and to Hamilton Park. I have refrained from including all the different terminals and streets traveled by these route variants in the Terminals and Major Streets sections and have just stuck to the main route to avoid complication; this information is instead stated in the Notes section.

Thanks for reading. Again, if someone could give me a way to confirm the origins of the routes I would love that. I'll continue to make improvements, and I'll also consider editing the other lists in a similar manner. If you have anything to add, please reply. I want your input. Smartopedia (talk) 02:47, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]