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Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2023

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Add to his picture caption that it is taken in Oriel College, Oxford. Confuro (talk) 17:40, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Please see MOS:CAPLENGTH – in an infobox, the caption should not provide any more detail than is necessary to illustrate the subject. As his being present at the college does not convey the significance of the article, it should not be included in the caption. The image description does already contain this information. Tollens (talk) 07:18, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Views

In 2023, Fox burnt progress pride flag buntings in a video he posted on Twitter and in a follow-up clip he referred to it as a "child mutilation flag" along with other anti-trans statements before stating that Union Jack flag is all-encompassing and there is no need of a rainbow flag either (paraphrasing his ranting tones). Having a section about his view on the Progress Pride Flag without this event is odd but all sources (including his own words recorded by himself on video) have been deemed unreliable. What could satisfy the reliability criteria? 79.26.183.251 (talk) 10:11, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

With AI being what it is, it’s best not to believe everything one sees or hears in media. Believe first hand account witnesses with sworn statements. Everything else, presume to be propaganda and rhetoric. 47.225.18.71 (talk) 22:03, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is on his social media account both in video format and in writing, not random people online sharing fake stories. He stands by it. He also stated his stances on LGBT people, and particularly on trans people several time in public speaking for years now. Whether he said it or not is not a matter of interpretation. 79.26.183.251 (talk) 18:01, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is neither based on "witnesses with sworn statements" nor on social media clips. Appropriate secondary sources would likely be news coverage by professional journalists. It is unlikely to be covered (even in the future) in books or academic journals or other sources we might use for other facts. If it wasn't the subject of commentary by an expert then it's not suitable information for Wikipedia (once we start quoting social media rants by Fox, where do we stop?). You can get an idea of some reliable and unreliable sources at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. — Bilorv (talk) 22:17, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to 'Views' section headings

[Please note, for transparency, there was a coding/formatting problem and I needed to delete and repost my following topic. Nothing else has been change]

I have changed the subject heading from Views, to Personal views and opinions.

I have changed the subheadings, particularly Racial issues to Views on race and racism.

Reasoning: The first change is minor, it may be better reverted to something shorter (if needed), however these views and opinions have been made in a personal context, not a political one (even though the two overlap almost to the point of being the same).

The second change prompted this. Racial issues suggests that the views described are already problematic even before reading the section text, implying a judgement of sorts. This is compared to Legal issues where an arrest, police investigation or legal case is a clearly defined problem. It might be considered leading and already gives the impression in its title that his views may be problematic (which, to me, they very much are) but I propose 'Views on race and racism' is a less subjective and a more generic way of organising and labelling sections. The text section content itself can then inform and educate the reader as to what those views are.

My only concern is adding too much bulk to the headings. Perhaps someone who can see the point I'm trying to make has a better suggestion for neutral/generic headings? Montezuma69 (talk) 13:37, 22 April 2024 (UTC Montezuma69 (talk) 13:47, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2025

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Edward Fox is Lawrence's father, not uncle. He is described here as both. Porge123 (talk) 20:52, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: The cited sources in the article support the text as is. PianoDan (talk) 23:13, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2025

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Please remove the line "In June 2024, Fox announced his engagement to [Named Person]."

This links a (presumably) living person to a controversial figure, found responsible for a serious libel and awaiting trial for criminal offences. It has been marked citation needed since March. I did find a profile describing this person, but in The Mirror. 89.243.162.142 (talk) 23:07, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Day Creature (talk) 22:17, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]