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Reversion of uncredible Source

@Local hero

I can write and publish a journal where i state that this minority descends of a mix of Somalis and Nigerians. This holds no weight though, if I have nothing to back my claim up.

I thus advise you to take a look at the source yourself instead of mindlessly reversing to propagate your agenda as i have noticed by your edit history, and defend it/ cite any credible way/passage she has proven that this minority descends of Slavic converts. They speak slavic. This doesnt necessarily mean that they are of ethnic slavic origin. You have Minorities all over the world that have turned to only speaking the language of the broader region they reside in, for whatever reason (be it forcefully by external pressure, or integration )

If you have done that, and found anything that backs up this claim scientifically in the context of the removed source, we can discuss the possibility of it staying up.

You have also gone ahead and just restored the completely out of place and disrespectful section of „Albanization“ under „See more“, which is completely unrelated to the Page. There is no sources/mention of any Albanization of the village on the page that proves that there was any Albanization historically, which makes this completely unrelated to the topic. This furrhermore makes me believe that you chase an agenda and dont actually look into/check what you are reverting. Diplomatika (talk) 08:29, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if you don't like it, but this author is cited on over 70+ articles. Your theoretical journal about Somalis and Nigerians wouldn't be. I've removed the See also section altogether. --Local hero ^talk 08:11, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Its not about liking or not liking something , its a critical objective observation of an issue.

It does not play a role who published it or how many times her works were cited, this is totally irrelevant. Its the content of the source itself .

I asked you to go ahead and cite where she backs up her claim in a scientific manner. Why dont you do so if you are so convinced that you/she are right ?

If you cant articulate yourself in a proper argumentative manner and explain how the source has a raison d'être by backing its claim up, and instead just want to stubbornly hang onto it, its probably better for you to just rv back to my version. Diplomatika (talk) 12:59, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can understand, you're questioning the credibility of source. The author of the section in question is Head of Religion and Politics in Migration at Evangelische Akademie Loccum; the book is published by Frank & Timme, an often-cited publisher for humanities & social sciences. --Local hero ^talk 01:33, 9 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Credibility not in a sense of judging the publishers/authors abilities to speak on the matter based on her background or other publications, or the institution she works for. What i have said is that the content of the source itself is invalid. It being published in X journal or other articles doesnt make it more or less valid. (this is the 3rd time I explain it, Its actually really not that hard to comprehend ). Furthermore, her work is more centered around idenitity and social structures. She doesnt deal with how they ethnically descend from orthodox Macedonians ( how they have the same origin, underlying factors, proof/sources.) She just ever so calmly makes the claim/assumption as a sidenote and doesnt go into any detail about or give any reasoning or historical context as to if thats true. Thus i again advise you to take a look at the source and READ it yourself. Diplomatika (talk) 01:21, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]