Talk:Joanna Simon (mezzo-soprano)
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[edit]Is it me, or does this read like a hagiography written by her publicist? Why is the discography of Carly Simon, her sister included?2601:802:8101:8C:C0A0:DE01:66A3:735A (talk) 20:24, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- Either that or her cousin/spouse/pal. I've removed the unsourced stuff, the (unsourced) puffery and the stuff about other folks. There is barely any notability here. Toddst1 (talk) 20:02, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Toddst1 Most of the content that was removed was easily verified to reliable publications. (see the massive amount of sources I added with most of the information restored, if in different language) While WP:BURDEN certainly encourages the removal of unsourced material, this was not a topic that was difficult to source if one uses the materials available through Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library and/or google books (such as this encyclopedia entry on Joanna Simon) and newspaper.com. As such I really don't think a sincere attempt at following WP:BEFORE was followed before nominating this topic for deletion. Further, even after trimming and before the addition of sources there was enough evidence there to support the passing of criteria 1 of WP:ANYBIO as the winner of an Emmy Award, so I don't think deletion or a notability tag was appropriate at any point. Regardless this article is in a much better state now, which is a good thing. Please be more diligent in trying to improve and source articles in future before taking them to AFD. Best.4meter4 (talk) 20:06, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Birthdate
[edit]Hello, According to The New York Birth Index from 1910 to 1965 on Ancestry.com and to The New York Times obituary she was born in New York City on October 20, 1936. --Danielvis08 (talk) 22:27, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- The Deadline source now states 85 years old as well, in addition to most other sources. It seems that 1936 is correct, even without the primary source. Connormah (talk) 23:17, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with listing 1936 as the DOB. The note can remain, but it makes no sense to lead with 1940. Lucy Simon's article says she was born in May 1940, and, obviously, Joanna was older. Nohomersryan (talk) 23:31, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- I agree. WIth the NYT article we should lead with 1936.4meter4 (talk) 00:15, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with listing 1936 as the DOB. The note can remain, but it makes no sense to lead with 1940. Lucy Simon's article says she was born in May 1940, and, obviously, Joanna was older. Nohomersryan (talk) 23:31, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
Fix the notes?
[edit]The note "a" looks normal, but the two additional notes (I'm assuming that's what they are) don't look right at all. I've tried to integrate them, but no luck. Could someone make those "notelist" items into notes "b" and "c"? Rontrigger (talk) 09:47, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
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