Talk:Iberian ship development, 1400–1600

Requested move

Iberian ship development from 1400—1600 → Iberian ship development, 1400–1600 – The present form invites the question "from between 1400 and 1600 to what?"; and the em-dash needs changing to en-dash. I am similarly proposing:

Iberian cartography from 1400-1600 → Iberian cartography, 1400–1600
Iberian Nautical Sciences from 1400-1600 → Iberian nautical sciences, 1400–1600
Iberian technology in nautical sciences, cartography and ship development from 1400—1600 → Iberian technology in nautical sciences, cartography and ship development, 1400–1600

—Tamfang (talk) 16:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Moved. Standard formatting. — kwami (talk) 21:59, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Needs Better Writing

This article is still phenomenally poorly written, however extensive and well-cited. I am going to propose a merger into another better-written piece. Suggestions? KDS4444^Talk 10:47, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know that the answer to the poor writing is a merger with another article. It simply needs to be re-written. It sounds as if it may have been poorly translated into English from some other language. Tmangray (talk) 06:33, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to improve the writing, but it may need some re-organization.Divers Alarums (talk) 15:04, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This article belong to a Conquistador article set. The article is about Iberian Kingdoms and discoveries.

85.251.99.49 (talk) 14:19, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Major reference usage

This article relies extensively on Roger C. Smith. Vanguard of the Empire: Ships of Exploration in the Age of Columbus. (Oxford University Press, New York: 1993). What is strange is that this book is 316 pages long, but the highest page number for this reference in this article is 47. Given that the reference's subject matter is very close to that of this article, it seems very odd that the there is no material in the remaining 269 pages that would usefully be covered here. ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 22:55, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

major topic missing from article

I find it amazing that the article completely omits any comment on Basque ship-builders (so, northern Spain). These were the major ship-builders of Europe until supplanted by the Dutch in the late 17th century. They were building ~~carvel~~clinker-built ships for export in the middle of the 15th century (Newport medieval ship).

In the mid 16th to early 17th centuries Basque shipwrights were building carvel galleons and naus that sailed to the Newfoundland whaling areas – doing so in larger numbers than anything else to the New World. See Red Bay, Newfoundland and Labrador#24M for a bit of information on this.

Both these topics cover merchant ships, and the article seems to have a problematical emphasis on warships.

There is no real mention of the merging of the northern European and Mediterranean shipbuilding traditions. This affected all of Europe, but applies equally well to Spain and Portugal in the period of the article. It is commonly explained in any decent maritime history of the area/period.

All of these aspects should be central to the subject. ThoughtIdRetired _TIR 14:25, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]