Talk:IBM Telum

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the IBM Telum article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Computing

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Computing, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of computers, computing, and information technology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ComputingWikipedia:WikiProject ComputingTemplate:WikiProject ComputingComputing
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by Computer hardware task force.

' vs ’ in article name references

I absolutely prefer ' to ’ as an apostrophe character in texts on Wikipedia, but when referring to an article, shouldn't the actual name of the article be used? Even if it has a type error, spelling error or similar. Am I overly nitpicking? -- Henriok (talk) 06:28, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I presume that User:Citation bot is following Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles of works § Typographic conformity, which points to Wikipedia:Manual of Style § Typographic conformity (MOS:CONFORM), which says:

Convert apostrophes and quotation marks to Wikipedia's style:
- These should be straight, not curly or slanted. See § Quotation marks.

That section of the MOS should also cite Wikipedia:Manual of Style § Apostrophes; they both say that straight, not curly, forms of those punctuation marks.

If that's what the bot is doing, the right place to discuss that is on Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles of works.

If that's not what the bot is doing, and it's changing those characters due to an overzealous interpretation of the MOS, the right place to discuss that is on a page such as User talk:Citation bot. Guy Harris (talk) 07:00, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Instruction set

The instruction set of Telum is not z/Architecture; the chip only implements those instructions not implemented elsewhere.^[1] -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 20:15, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Where does the reference say that? And to what does "elsewhere" refer? I suspect much of the low-level assists are on-chip, e.g. the neural-network stuff is probably on-chip just as it is for other processors with those sort of AI assists. Some instructions trap to millicode; I don't know whether that's in on-chip ROM/flash/whatever or not. Other part of the architecture are apparently implemented in "i390" code or PR/SM. Guy Harris (talk) 20:57, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're right; I just checked.^[2]

They say that the memory is the second thing to go; I don't remember the first. Thanks for catching that.

References

^ "Chapter 26. Specialized-Function-Assist Instructions" (PDF). z/Architecture Principles of Operation (PDF) (Fourteenth ed.). IBM. May 2022. pp. 26-1 – 26-125. SA22-7832-13. Retrieved June 28, 2024.
^ Octavian Lascu; Bill White; Ewerson Palacio; John Troy; Jannie Houlbjerg; Martijn Raave; Kazuhiro Nakajima; Paul Schouten; André Spahni; Anna Shugol; Gerard Laumay; Hervey Kamga; Bo Xu; Slav Martinski; Markus Ertl; Roman Vogt (May 2022). "1.2.2 CPC drawers" (PDF). IBM z16 (3931) - Technical Guide (PDF). Redbooks} (Fourteenth ed.). IBM. p. 7. SA22-7832-13. Retrieved February 19, 2025. Telum processor chips that use Extreme ultraviolet (EUV) process with 7 nm silicon lithography technology. Each processor chip consists of eight PU cores. Two processor chips are packaged in the dual-chip module (DCM).

[1] "Chapter 26. Specialized-Function-Assist Instructions" (PDF). z/Architecture Principles of Operation (PDF) (Fourteenth ed.). IBM. May 2022. pp. 26-1 – 26-125. SA22-7832-13. Retrieved June 28, 2024.

[2] Octavian Lascu; Bill White; Ewerson Palacio; John Troy; Jannie Houlbjerg; Martijn Raave; Kazuhiro Nakajima; Paul Schouten; André Spahni; Anna Shugol; Gerard Laumay; Hervey Kamga; Bo Xu; Slav Martinski; Markus Ertl; Roman Vogt (May 2022). "1.2.2 CPC drawers" (PDF). IBM z16 (3931) - Technical Guide (PDF). Redbooks} (Fourteenth ed.). IBM. p. 7. SA22-7832-13. Retrieved February 19, 2025. Telum processor chips that use Extreme ultraviolet (EUV) process with 7 nm silicon lithography technology. Each processor chip consists of eight PU cores. Two processor chips are packaged in the dual-chip module (DCM).

[1]

[2]