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List of Admirals who have hoisted their flag...

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This issue was raised by User:Martocticvs in July 2008 but as there wasn't much discussion (see Talk:HMS_Victory/Archive_1#List_of_Admirals) so I think it might be useful to ressurect it. Apart from USS Constitution, this doesn't appear to be usual practice so I am suggesting moving the table to a stand-alone list with the hope someone will eventually make it an article. I personally don't see a need to replace it with anything, although a prose section with some of the most notable admirals might be appropriate. Thoughts? --Ykraps (talk) 11:16, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the list in its current form should not be used. It's unreferenced and unwieldy. If we can dig up some reliable sources to demonstrate the notability of the list outside of the ship article then it should be moved over. Either way, mentions of admirals who raised their flag on Victory should be converted into prose as appropriate. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 15:13, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There was a discussion at wt:ships a few years back about Lists of Commanding Officers on ship articles, and the consensus at the time was to avoid such lists, leading to WP:SHIPSNOTCREWS. Generally the preference was to see COs added to the narrative prose as part of the chronology. There could be separate articles, where appropriate, such as List of commanding officers of USS Oklahoma (BB-37).

This list on it's face seems like a candidate for a separate article. There may be an issue with sourcing. With some lists, attached refs often aren't required if the list entries are linked to another article, (such as the case here), with the belief that the entry is sourced in that article. Every entry here is linked, but when looking to confirm, there is an issue. Starting with the first five entries; Kepple, Hardy and Parker, there is no mention of Victory at all. Drake has a single mention of Victory, but no source attached, and finally Geary, has a single mention of Victory in the prose, with a source attached (a book).

TL;DR - this list probably shouldn't be in this article, all the admirals should be noted in the prose instead. The list could be forked off on it's own, but there may he sourcing issues. - \\'cԼF 23:57, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]