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Change of URL from 'Her' to 'His

Edit: I was brought here by a re-direct link, "...wiki/Her_Majesty%27s_Government" which prompted this query. I notice that the URL for the main page remains correct. Requesting that this Talk section be ignored or deleted.

Original text: For the reigns of Kings Charles, William and George (the next 2 in line to the throne) HMG will refer to 'His Majesty's Government'. As this will likely be the case for at least a decade the URL of this page should be updated to reflect this long-term change, as has been done with the URL. 217.33.165.88 (talk) 17:38, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No "HM Government" logo as stated in the HMG Identity Guidelines?

There should be appearance of the HM Government logo as stated in the HMG Identity Guidelines but I can't find any even in Wikimedia Commons (only the "Overseas branding: UK Government" logo is shown in the page). Could someone add it? Gibranalnn (talk) 23:20, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Those are not the 2024- Arms

The updated Arms of the United Kingdom are here Coat of arms of the United Kingdom The arms at the top of this article are outdated despite their stated description. Confuro (talk) 17:40, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Confuro, the government uses a 'lesser arms' rather than the full achievement. See Government_of_the_United_Kingdom#Symbols. Dgp4004 (talk) 21:49, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lead phrasing

@Safes007—you're being a bit dogmatic here. We obviously shouldn't move the article, but we don't have to treat "Government of the United Kingdom" like a proper name here when it's simply not one. Remsense ‥ 论 06:27, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean "proper name"? It's an unofficial name, but that simply reflects Wikipedia's policy to use common, not necessarily official names. It's confusing to have no mention of the name of an article in the article's first sentence, especially considering we can't assume that a reader knows either name before clicking on the article. Safes007 (talk) 14:06, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To me, "government of the United Kingdom" is a noun phrase just as much as "history of the United Kingdom" is, and not a proper name (if it were a proper name, I would likely render it in title case, for instance). "His Majesty's Government" is a proper name referring to the same entity. I won't beleaguer you with my misunderstandings of theories of reference any further, though. If no one else has the same sense here that I do, it's probably just a me thing. Remsense ‥ 论 14:26, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is there an issue with making a noun phrase the subject of a sentence? If the first sentence has issues with its grammar that I'm not aware of, feel free to change it. I just think the article name should be the subject of the first sentence (or otherwise mentioned prominently) to avoid confusing readers. Safes007 (talk) 14:56, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's often worth seeing if one can avoid doing so if merely to wikilink immediately without violating WP:BOLD, but ofc not worth it if the sentence reads less naturally as a result. Since both government and United Kingdom would be WP:OL even that's irrelevant I suppose. Remsense ‥ 论 14:59, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]