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Find correct name The airport is not listed as João Paulo II anywhere. The airport's own website calls itself simply Ponta Delgada, and has no mention of João Paulo.

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THE statement about Portugal 70 per cent R1b is wrong. 41.142.114.186 (talk) 14:11, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps it's a confusion with the Atlantic Modal Haplotype. Original edit, Oct. 2022: 70% R1b in Portugal, 90% in some regions in NW Portugal, over 90% in Galicia. After some tug of war, with deletions and new editions: 70% in Portugal, 90% in some regions of NW Portugal. Alleged source (footnote 66): A study from 2015 of the matrilineal MtDNA in Portugal (...R1b was patrilineal and male-only the last time I checked it out). R1b M269 in Portugal, afaik: Some 60% (of the native males, I presume). Slightly more in the North, slightly less in the South. 85.84.56.209 (talk) 10:45, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haplogroup J, mostly subclades of Haplogroup J-M172 (J2) is found at levels of over 20% in some regions [...]

Pathetical cherrypicking. Anecdotes instead of the general pattern. J2+J1 in Spain, study with more samples (Y-DNA haplogroups in populations of Europe): 9.8% of the males. 85.84.56.209 (talk) 01:20, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixation index (I can cherrypick too)

Theoretically: The closer to cero, the more related 2 populations are. Spain/France: 0.001. Spain/Northern Germany: 0.003. Spain/Southern Germany: 0.002. Spain/Northern Italy: 0.003. Spain/Southern Italy: 0.005. Spain/Sweden: 0.004. Spain/Poland: 0.005. Spain/Estonia: 0.008. Spain/Finland: From 0.011 to 0.017. Palestinians/Italy: 0.0064. Palestinians/Sweden: 0.0191. Palestinians/Spain: 0.0101. Palestinians/Germany: 0.0136. Palestinians/Greece: 0.0057. 85.84.56.209 (talk) 13:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

E-M81 is North African in Spain but not in France, Wales and Scotland?

Haplogroup E-M81. Spain: Some 4% of the native males (all E1b1b: 9%). France: 2.7% (all E1b1b, tentatively: 7%). 41% E-M81 in the Pas Valley in Cantabria, that perhaps was some decades under Umayyad nominal rule in the 8th century? No problem: 5% in Auvergne. Surprise me: E-M81 in France and Great Britain is a noble and ancient European clade, right? 85.84.57.60 (talk) 10:18, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quotations needed

Maintaining this page, and probably all pages about genetic history, is nightmarish. Editors, many of them anonymous, add source after source, and when you take the trouble to read them, it often turns out that those sources don't match the claims they are supposed to reference. For this reason, I'm tempted to delete all sources from the page and force anyone adding new ones to include a quotation from it, so that the referenced statement can be checked without wasting so much time. Of course, that would be very radical and would generate edit wars, so I'll have to settle for a simpler policy: adding Request quotation templates for a number of sources.

I invite any editor of the page to follow the same procedure and add quotations for any new source (and for old ones too), or include the Request quotation template whenever in doubt. Thanks for reading, Jotamar (talk) 14:49, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]