Talk:Eli Feldstein

You are an administrator, so you may disregard the message below.
You are seeing this because of the limitations of {{If extended confirmed}} and {{If administrator}}. You can hide this message box by adding the following to a new line of your common.css page: .ECR-edit-request-warning { display: none; }

Stop: You may only use this page to create an edit request

This page is related to a topic subject to the extended-confirmed restriction. You are not an extended-confirmed user, so you must not edit or discuss this topic anywhere on Wikipedia except to make an edit request. (Additional details are in the message box just below this one.)

Warning: active arbitration remedies

The contentious topics procedure applies to this article. This article relates to the Arab–Israeli conflict, a contentious topic.

The following restrictions apply to everyone editing this article:

All participants in formal discussions (RfCs, RMs, etc) within the area of conflict are urged to keep their comments concise, and are limited to 1,000 words per discussion. Citations and quotations (whether from sources, Wikipedia articles, Wikipedia discussions, or elsewhere) do not count toward the word limit.
You may not make more than 1 revert within 24 hours (except in limited circumstances)
You must be logged-in and extended-confirmed to edit or discuss this topic on any page (except for making edit requests, provided they are not disruptive)

Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page.

Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator.

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Eli Feldstein article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography

Military history: Biography / National / Middle East / Post-Cold War

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Military biography task force
	National militaries task force
	Middle Eastern military history task force
	Post-Cold War task force

Israel Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Israel, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Israel on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IsraelWikipedia:WikiProject IsraelTemplate:WikiProject IsraelIsrael-related

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Project Israel To Do:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Assess : Rate the Unassessed Israel-related articles and Unknown-importance Israel-related articles.
Cleanup : Cleanup listing for this project is available. See also the list by category and the tool's wiki page.
Collaborate : Participate in WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration.
Copyedit : Timeline of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict in 2005
Deletion sorting : Participate in discussions at WikiProject Deletion sorting/Israel.
Expand : Ayala Procaccia, Diamond industry in Israel, Edna Arbel, Levin Kipnis, Rami Kleinstein, Sephardic Haredim, Zman Tel Aviv, Nachum Heiman, Public Defence (Israel), Prisoner of Zion, Trial of Benjamin Netanyahu, Day to Mark the Departure and Expulsion of Jews from the Arab Countries and Iran, Pre-Modern Aliyah
See also Articles needing translation from Hebrew Wikipedia.
Geographical coordinates : Add geographic coordinates to Israel articles missing geocoordinate data.
Infobox : Add infoboxes to Israel articles needing infoboxes.
Maintain : See Israel articles needing attention.
Map : See discussion at Module:Location map/data/Israel. Add maps to articles in Wikipedia requested maps in Israel.
NPOV : Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries
Photo : Add pictures to articles in Wikipedia requested photographs in Israel.
Stubs : See Israel stubs.
Update : Basic Law proposal: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People
Other :
- Translate to Hebrew : David Bar-Hayim, Guy Bavli, and Guy Oseary.

Politics Low‑importance

	Politics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

It is requested that a photograph be included in this article to improve its quality.
The external tool WordPress Openverse may be able to locate suitable images on Flickr and other web sites.

Upload

Notability

I believe this article does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. The subject appears to lack significant achievements or contributions that would warrant an encyclopedic entry. There is no clear indication of broader impact or importance in any notable field. Eladkarmel (talk) 20:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Due to Qatargate, the article is notable. _Dgw|Talk 14:05, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Moved from Wikipedia:Teahouse § Eli Feldstein

– _Dgw|Talk 14:05, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, is it correct that text which appears in the WP:LEAD, does not have to appear again in the body?

The lead says:
"in March 2025 he was arrested on suspicion of involvement in the Qatari connection affair.<ref>{{cite web|last1=Sharon|first1=Jeremy|last2=Summers|first2=Charlie|date=31 March 2025|url=https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-summoned-for-questioning-in-qatargate-probe-as-top-aides-arrested/|title=Netanyahu testifies in Qatargate probe after police summons, as top aides arrested|work=The Times of Israel|access-date=2025-04-01}}</ref>".

I supplied a source also in the body, and wrote:
"In March 2025, an Israeli businessman, Gil Birger, moved money from Jay Footlik to Feldstein, as Feldstein's salary in the Office of the Prime Minister, bypassing the Israeli Income tax law.<ref>{{cite web|author=i24NEWS|date=31 March 2025|url=https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/politics/artc-eli-feldstein-yonatan-urich-arrested-in-qatar-gate-affair|title=Eli Feldstein, Yonatan Urich arrested in 'Qatar-Gate' affair|website=i24NEWS|access-date=2025-04-01}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|author=Ynet|date=2025-03-19|url=https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bko67juhkg|title='Qatargate': Israeli businessman says he transferred money from Qatar lobbyist to Netanyahu spokesperson|website=Ynetnews|access-date=2025-04-01}}</ref>"

Afterwards, this text was added in the body, below the text which I had added in the body:
"He was arrested in March 2025 for suspected involvement in the Qatari connection affair. Netanyahu has described Feldstein and his other aide Jonatan Urich as "being held hostage" following their arrests.<ref>{{cite web|last1=Sharon|first1=Jeremy|last2=Summers|first2=Charlie |date=1 April 2025|url=https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-says-his-two-aides-being-held-hostage-in-qatargate-witch-hunt/|title=Netanyahu says his two aides ‘being held hostage’ in Qatargate ‘witch hunt’|work=The Times of Israel|access-date=31 March 2025}}</ref>".

1. Netanyahu's description as "being held hostage" is not relevant to Feldstein. It is relevant to Netanyahu or to the Qatari connection affair.
2. The reader has to read three times about the arrest of Feldstein, once in the lead and twice in the body.
3. The Qatari connection affair is duplicated.
4. WP:BLP applies. I see it wrong to write four times in one article about the arrest.
I would be glad to read your replies, _Dgw|Talk 05:25, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Dorian Gray Wild The lead is supposed to summarize the most important parts of the main article and in particular to specify why the person is notable. Some duplication is therefore unsurprising. However, the most important policy here is that described at WP:BLPCRIME, which you should read carefully and edit the article accordingly, or comment on its talk page. As this is a contentious topic you should be particularly careful. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:36, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The end of the moved text

As far as your first point, Feldstein is a key figure in the Qatari connection affair, so it's relevant. Plus, Feldstein and Urich worked for Bibi.

Regarding your second and fourth points, there were two separate arrests (in November 2024 and March 2025) on different charges, so it's not repetitive to discuss it more than once. David O. Johnson (talk) 04:15, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding #3, I was not replied why the link Qatari connection affair was written twice. It is not a stand alone link.

All the five mentions of the arrests (in a red font) deal only with 31 March 2025. _Dgw|Talk 18:18, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]